Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-13 Thread Björn Gabrielsson
 A nearby thunderstorm could have taken out the preamp in the antenna.

 73 Bill Beam
 NL7F

Carefully powering the antenna from a separate supply and then measuring
the current - is one way of checking that the LNA still works.

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Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-13 Thread Hal Murray

bpl...@outlook.com said:
 p.s. I believe you need a minimum of three satellites to work through the
 standard or precision survey. 

The Z3801A manual says it needs 4.

I suspect there is an additional requirement that the satellites have a 
good-enough position in the sky.  (as compared to all being in a line, or all 
being close together)

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Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

Looks like no antenna ( = no RF in the front end). If it’s been on for a while, 
I’d
start with the antenna and work back to the TBolt.

Bob

 On Aug 12, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Alberto di Bene dib...@usa.net wrote:
 
 Today I switched on again my TBolt after a few weeks of power down.
 It looks like it has decided to take a period of rest, maybe definitive...
 
 The link below is a screen capture of LH, with some annotation from me.
 Is there anything that, in your experience, I can try to diagnose the failure
 and possibly to repair it ?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15089947/TB_bad.gif
 
 73  Alberto  I2PHD
 
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-12 Thread Alberto di Bene

On 8/12/2015 8:29 PM, Hal Murray wrote:


How long did you wait after turning it on?
How good is your antenna position?
Did you tell it to remember the location after a survey finished?

If it's been off for a few weeks, it doesn't know where the satellites are.
To get started, it has to find one by a brute force search.  With a good
antenna, that doesn't take very long.  Then it takes 15 minutes to collect
the satellite info.  With a poor antenna location, it takes longer, maybe a
lot longer.


Thanks Hal for your answer.

   My TB now is switched on since yesterday, but no satellites are acquired...
Last time I switched it on, it worked, and, even after a long off period, it 
did take not more than
a few minutes to acquire the first satellite.

Yesterday, after I saw that no satellites did show up in LH, I issued the ! 
command to do a cold reset,
just to see if it could be of help.

My antenna is a timing antenna, on the chimney of my house, completely free 
from obstacles.
There is the possibilities that a thunderstorm has broken its small mast, 
tomorrow I will check.
This seems to be the only reasonable cause of the malfunction... the TB accepts 
commands
and sends back status info. Unless its GPS receiver has developed a fault...

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-12 Thread William Beam
A nearby thunderstorm could have taken out the preamp in the antenna.

73 Bill Beam
NL7F
- Original Message -
From: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
To:
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 12 Aug 2015 23:29:45 +0200
Subject:Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

 On 8/12/2015 8:29 PM, Hal Murray wrote:

  How long did you wait after turning it on?
  How good is your antenna position?
  Did you tell it to remember the location after a survey finished?
 
  If it's been off for a few weeks, it doesn't know where the
satellites are.
  To get started, it has to find one by a brute force search. With a
good
  antenna, that doesn't take very long. Then it takes 15 minutes to
collect
  the satellite info. With a poor antenna location, it takes longer,
maybe a
  lot longer.

 Thanks Hal for your answer.

 My TB now is switched on since yesterday, but no satellites are
acquired...
 Last time I switched it on, it worked, and, even after a long off
period, it did take not more than
 a few minutes to acquire the first satellite.

 Yesterday, after I saw that no satellites did show up in LH, I issued
the ! command to do a cold reset,
 just to see if it could be of help.

 My antenna is a timing antenna, on the chimney of my house,
completely free from obstacles.
 There is the possibilities that a thunderstorm has broken its small
mast, tomorrow I will check.
 This seems to be the only reasonable cause of the malfunction... the
TB accepts commands
 and sends back status info. Unless its GPS receiver has developed a
fault..

 73 Alberto I2PHD

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Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

Never ever rule out the idea that a squirrel has found your feed line a really
tasty thing to chew on….

Bob

 On Aug 12, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Alberto di Bene dib...@usa.net wrote:
 
 On 8/12/2015 8:29 PM, Hal Murray wrote:
 
 How long did you wait after turning it on?
 How good is your antenna position?
 Did you tell it to remember the location after a survey finished?
 
 If it's been off for a few weeks, it doesn't know where the satellites are.
 To get started, it has to find one by a brute force search.  With a good
 antenna, that doesn't take very long.  Then it takes 15 minutes to collect
 the satellite info.  With a poor antenna location, it takes longer, maybe a
 lot longer.
 
 Thanks Hal for your answer.
 
   My TB now is switched on since yesterday, but no satellites are acquired...
 Last time I switched it on, it worked, and, even after a long off period, it 
 did take not more than
 a few minutes to acquire the first satellite.
 
 Yesterday, after I saw that no satellites did show up in LH, I issued the ! 
 command to do a cold reset,
 just to see if it could be of help.
 
 My antenna is a timing antenna, on the chimney of my house, completely free 
 from obstacles.
 There is the possibilities that a thunderstorm has broken its small mast, 
 tomorrow I will check.
 This seems to be the only reasonable cause of the malfunction... the TB 
 accepts commands
 and sends back status info. Unless its GPS receiver has developed a fault...
 
 73  Alberto  I2PHD
 
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-12 Thread Bryan _
I have had a similar issue occur. For some reason it all of a sudden wanted to 
do wanted to do a self survey but couldn't. Stuck at 1% on the survey. I 
switched to Tboltmonitor as my backup program and was able to re input my 
lat/long and altitude settings, saved and it carried on. Power glitch, firmware 
issue, who knows.
p.s. I believe you need a minimum of three satellites to work through the 
standard or precision survey.


-=Bryan=-

 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 From: hmur...@megapathdsl.net
 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:29:58 -0700
 CC: hmur...@megapathdsl.net
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?
 
 
 dib...@usa.net said:
  Today I switched on again my TBolt after a few weeks of power down. It looks
  like it has decided to take a period of rest, maybe definitive... 
 
 How long did you wait after turning it on?
 How good is your antenna position?
 Did you tell it to remember the location after a survey finished?
 
 If it's been off for a few weeks, it doesn't know where the satellites are.  
 To get started, it has to find one by a brute force search.  With a good 
 antenna, that doesn't take very long.  Then it takes 15 minutes to collect 
 the satellite info.  With a poor antenna location, it takes longer, maybe a 
 lot longer.
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-12 Thread Chris Waldrup
I had an issue with mine and worked it out last night thanks to all of you 
great list members!! Thank you!!

Turned out to be a blown PNP SOT package transistor that feeds 5V to the 
antenna. 

Do you have 5V on the F connector?

I saw your Lady Heather screenshot said antenna ok, but this is just a thought. 

Mine was hanging at 1% self survey for days and after replacing the transistor 
and doing a factory reset it picked up all satellites and settled down to 0.04 
ppb error. 

I'll post details of the transistors (there are 5) in the vicinity of U19. 
Thanks to Matthias Jelen for the help. 

On some models the transistors are on the other side of the board. The blown 
one on mine was marked C2N which is a Central Semiconductor CMPT404A and is 
carried by Mouser. It's listed as a PNP chopper transistor. 

I used an On Semiconductor MMBT3906 that I had in stock and it worked fine. 

The other four transistors are marked 5D, 1AM, 2A, and 2A. 

Good luck and I hope you are able to fix your unit. 




Chris

KD4PBJ



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On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Bryan _ bpl...@outlook.com wrote:

 I have had a similar issue occur. For some reason it all of a sudden wanted 
 to do wanted to do a self survey but couldn't. Stuck at 1% on the survey. I 
 switched to Tboltmonitor as my backup program and was able to re input my 
 lat/long and altitude settings, saved and it carried on. Power glitch, 
 firmware issue, who knows.
 p.s. I believe you need a minimum of three satellites to work through the 
 standard or precision survey.
 -=Bryan=-
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 From: hmur...@megapathdsl.net
 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:29:58 -0700
 CC: hmur...@megapathdsl.net
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?
 
 
 dib...@usa.net said:
  Today I switched on again my TBolt after a few weeks of power down. It 
  looks
  like it has decided to take a period of rest, maybe definitive... 
 
 How long did you wait after turning it on?
 How good is your antenna position?
 Did you tell it to remember the location after a survey finished?
 
 If it's been off for a few weeks, it doesn't know where the satellites are.  
 To get started, it has to find one by a brute force search.  With a good 
 antenna, that doesn't take very long.  Then it takes 15 minutes to collect 
 the satellite info.  With a poor antenna location, it takes longer, maybe a 
 lot longer.
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-12 Thread Jason Ball
Or if your in Australia, a cockatoo.   I've had to rerun my coax twice over
the past 12 months 

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:18 AM, William Beam wb...@gci.net wrote:

 A nearby thunderstorm could have taken out the preamp in the antenna.

 73 Bill Beam
 NL7F
 - Original Message -
 From: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
 To:
 Cc:
 Sent:Wed, 12 Aug 2015 23:29:45 +0200
 Subject:Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

  On 8/12/2015 8:29 PM, Hal Murray wrote:

   How long did you wait after turning it on?
   How good is your antenna position?
   Did you tell it to remember the location after a survey finished?
  
   If it's been off for a few weeks, it doesn't know where the
 satellites are.
   To get started, it has to find one by a brute force search. With a
 good
   antenna, that doesn't take very long. Then it takes 15 minutes to
 collect
   the satellite info. With a poor antenna location, it takes longer,
 maybe a
   lot longer.

  Thanks Hal for your answer.

  My TB now is switched on since yesterday, but no satellites are
 acquired...
  Last time I switched it on, it worked, and, even after a long off
 period, it did take not more than
  a few minutes to acquire the first satellite.

  Yesterday, after I saw that no satellites did show up in LH, I issued
 the ! command to do a cold reset,
  just to see if it could be of help.

  My antenna is a timing antenna, on the chimney of my house,
 completely free from obstacles.
  There is the possibilities that a thunderstorm has broken its small
 mast, tomorrow I will check.
  This seems to be the only reasonable cause of the malfunction... the
 TB accepts commands
  and sends back status info. Unless its GPS receiver has developed a
 fault..

  73 Alberto I2PHD

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[time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-12 Thread Alberto di Bene

Today I switched on again my TBolt after a few weeks of power down.
It looks like it has decided to take a period of rest, maybe definitive...

The link below is a screen capture of LH, with some annotation from me.
Is there anything that, in your experience, I can try to diagnose the failure
and possibly to repair it ?

Thanks in advance.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15089947/TB_bad.gif

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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Re: [time-nuts] Has my TBolt gone south ?

2015-08-12 Thread Hal Murray

dib...@usa.net said:
 Today I switched on again my TBolt after a few weeks of power down. It looks
 like it has decided to take a period of rest, maybe definitive... 

How long did you wait after turning it on?
How good is your antenna position?
Did you tell it to remember the location after a survey finished?

If it's been off for a few weeks, it doesn't know where the satellites are.  
To get started, it has to find one by a brute force search.  With a good 
antenna, that doesn't take very long.  Then it takes 15 minutes to collect 
the satellite info.  With a poor antenna location, it takes longer, maybe a 
lot longer.

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