Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
I like the ped-countdown displays here (San Jose, US) because I can better judge if I'll need to stop or not when approaching an intersection. I've noticed the drivers getting worse and worse about following basic laws like stopping at red lights. Rush hour only makes things worse- at the freeway on ramp intersection near where I work, an average of 5 cars go through the intersection after the light turns green for the other direction. To be fair, I've done the same when I am carrying something delicate and mis-judged the light, but these people just want to get home faster- I've often wished we could shoot offending cars with indelible paint balls... and the CHP could write tickets when you had enough hits on your car... Worst offenders? BMW and Audi drivers... I can dream... -Dave - Original Message - From: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:31:45 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement In message 2867F1FA0E254465AF8CA85C85ED0C79@narvik, David J Taylor writes: In China I've seen down-counting LED displays for the red sign. But this is just to simple for Europe. Badly. I've certainly seen countdown display for pedestrians in several European cities. They are not used for cars here in Denmark because a certain testosterone driven segment of drivers think they are in pole-position when they see a count-down. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
Hehe - try driving in Napoli some day - makes Roma seem positively sane, and Torino is civilised compared to Roma! D. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
This is why the North-Italy territory wants to be separeted the rest of Italy..hihi EP. -Original Message- From: David C. Partridge david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 12:59 pm Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement Hehe - try driving in Napoli some day - makes Roma seem positively sane, and orino is civilised compared to Roma! D. __ ime-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com o unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts nd follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
please, before write look in your home than respect other people. thanks Luciano -- Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti IZ5JHJ - Original Message From: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement Date: Jan 16, 2012 01:01 PM Hehe - try driving in Napoli some day - makes Roma seem positively sane, and Torino is civilised compared to Roma! D. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. Sent to you using Uebimiau Webmail version 3.11 Developed by Dave and Todd at http://www.manvel.net and http://www.tdah.us ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
d.sei...@comcast.net schrieb: could write tickets when you had enough hits on your car... Worst offenders? BMW and Audi drivers... Here in Germany too. The worst drivers are the ones with license plates beginning with LB- AND driving Audi or BMW. LB means Ludwigsburg - a city near Stuttgart. Stuttgart - Porsches. Curiosly they drive seldom such fast as BMW and Audi on small streets here. Looks like BMW and Audi drivers need to rise money all the way whereas Porsche drivers have money already enough. An arabic saying: Only the poor man have to run his way. - Henry -- ehydra.dyndns.info ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
On 1/16/12 6:47 AM, Timeok wrote: please, before write look in your home than respect other people. thanks Luciano Luciano's point is well taken. Every place has it's idiosyncratic driving things. Some are more different than others. I found Rome to be fairly well disciplined for a big city. I'd sooner step off the curb into the road reading a paper and not looking in Rome than New York, that's for sure. I think there is a general trend that warmer countries have wilder driving just because there's more opportunity for driving and more cars (because they last longer?). And to a certain extent, more driving leads to a familiarity with local customs, which may diverge from one's home area. I drive in Los Angeles, and it's nothing here to be in tightly packed 75 mi/hr (120 km/hr) platoons zooming about merging and splitting in 4 way interchanges, but we have relatively little of the 5 lanes squeezing down to 2 like you find in the US NorthEast (Boston, I'm looking at you). So people from back east find winding through the mountains at 65 mi/hr a bit trying, but have no problem in downtown LA. The other thing is signage. Everybody does their signs a bit differently (even in the US), so your plan-ahead navigation tends to get screwed up, even if the immediate vehicle management is ok. That tends to make driving in a foreign country a bit more exciting. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
They are used in Russia, and that is pretty much what is happening. I can't imagine those being used in France... Didier KO4BB Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message- From: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 06:31:45 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement In message 2867F1FA0E254465AF8CA85C85ED0C79@narvik, David J Taylor writes: In China I've seen down-counting LED displays for the red sign. But this is just to simple for Europe. Badly. I've certainly seen countdown display for pedestrians in several European cities. They are not used for cars here in Denmark because a certain testosterone driven segment of drivers think they are in pole-position when they see a count-down. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
On Jan 14, 2012, at 23:12 , Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: You are not the first researcher of this interesting phenomena: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/cellphone-ban-would-be-a-distraction/2011/12/16/gIQAdv2GyO_story.html Article states: Upon arriving at a red light, drivers apply the brakes, pick up their mobile devices, and begin reading and sending e-mails. The signal to resume driving comes not from the green light but from some motorist in the back tapping politely on the horn. This is why I begin honking immediately after stopping. It removes the latency, which can otherwise be annoying at a light with a short green cycle. :-) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net http://www.nf6x.net/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
Actually a friend who lived in Rome proposed a new European definition of the nanosecond as the time between the lights going green and the sound of the horn of the car behind you. I still remember driving in the rushhour in Rome, now _that_ was scary. On 15 January 2012 14:40, Skip Withrow skip.with...@gmail.com wrote: Dear nuts, I would like to propose a new unit of time, the 'textsecond'. This is the interval of time from the time the signal light turns green to when the driver behind the idiot texting driver honks their horn. Still collecting data on its exact length, but seeing a lot more examples lately. I'm sure there is probably a much more clever name (and there are a lot of clever time-nuts out there). However, I don't want this comment on social behaviour to blossom into a lengthy OT thread. Regards, Skip Withrow ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Tom Harris celephi...@gmail.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
On 01/16/2012 02:13 AM, Tom Harris wrote: Actually a friend who lived in Rome proposed a new European definition of the nanosecond as the time between the lights going green and the sound of the horn of the car behind you. I still remember driving in the rushhour in Rome, now _that_ was scary. And here I thought the femtofourthnight was a satisfactory solution. When in Turin I took the cab... and well, it was a fascinating experience. However, just the rising slope of the sound-wave will be slow enough to make ns precision measurements um... interesting. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
In Germany hand-used phones during drive are banned for several years now. I think it makes sense. Well, humanoids should think on it DIY but the reality is another. In China I've seen down-counting LED displays for the red sign. But this is just to simple for Europe. Badly. - Henry Mark J. Blair schrieb: Article states: Upon arriving at a red light, drivers apply the brakes, pick up their mobile devices, and begin reading and sending e-mails. The signal to resume driving comes not from the green light but from some motorist in the back tapping politely on the horn. This is why I begin honking immediately after stopping. It removes the latency, which can otherwise be annoying at a light with a short green cycle. :-) -- ehydra.dyndns.info ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
In Germany hand-used phones during drive are banned for several years now. I think it makes sense. Well, humanoids should think on it DIY but the reality is another. Yes, that does make complete sense, along with anything which may distract the driver. In China I've seen down-counting LED displays for the red sign. But this is just to simple for Europe. Badly. - Henry I've certainly seen countdown display for pedestrians in several European cities. Cheers, David -- SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
In message 2867F1FA0E254465AF8CA85C85ED0C79@narvik, David J Taylor writes: In China I've seen down-counting LED displays for the red sign. But this is just to simple for Europe. Badly. I've certainly seen countdown display for pedestrians in several European cities. They are not used for cars here in Denmark because a certain testosterone driven segment of drivers think they are in pole-position when they see a count-down. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
Dear nuts, I would like to propose a new unit of time, the 'textsecond'. This is the interval of time from the time the signal light turns green to when the driver behind the idiot texting driver honks their horn. Still collecting data on its exact length, but seeing a lot more examples lately. I'm sure there is probably a much more clever name (and there are a lot of clever time-nuts out there). However, I don't want this comment on social behaviour to blossom into a lengthy OT thread. Regards, Skip Withrow ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement
In message ca+oswyx_8bx+ryrjlgvrynmn771xwha0vp1okr90lmk_rzc...@mail.gmail.com , Skip Withrow writes: I would like to propose a new unit of time, the 'textsecond'. This is the interval of time from the time the signal light turns green to when the driver behind the idiot texting driver honks their horn. Still collecting data on its exact length, but seeing a lot more examples lately. You are not the first researcher of this interesting phenomena: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/cellphone-ban-would-be-a-distraction/2011/12/16/gIQAdv2GyO_story.html -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
