Re: [time-nuts] SMTP with Trimble Thunderbolt-E

2014-09-28 Thread Brian Inglis

On 2014-09-26 07:17, Luc Gaudin wrote:


I need to have remotely access to Trimble Thunderbolt-E to manage it.
I first sort out the physical (network) parts to get the Serial port out on the 
network (unit CSE-H53N from Sollae Systems).
For management I am looking to use SNMP.
Is there any system capable to convert the serial information from the Trimble 
Thunderbolt to SNMP ?
Some people are talking about proxy agent.
Is any can help ?


You could also use retail serial to USB then USB to enet adapters
which are probably a lot cheaper.

Embedded Linux PCs such as Raspberry Pi and Beaglebone Black are cheap and
can be configured with serial ports, but you may need hardware to stretch
the PPS if you want to use it:
FatPPS http://tapr.org/kits_fatpps.html
and software to read or convert from Motorola binary TSIP,
and the options seem to be:
tboltd http://wa5znu.org/2011/08/tbolt to pass TSIP across TCP which would
allow you to use LH on Windows or under Wine on PC Linux,
gpsd http://www.catb.org/gpsd for Linux programs, or
ntp http://ntp.org/downloads.html.

Anything else requires you to decode the TSIP binary stream
and make it available via SNMP.
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Re: [time-nuts] SMTP with Trimble Thunderbolt-E

2014-09-28 Thread Didier Juges

Shameless plug:
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On September 26, 2014 7:55:05 PM CDT, Chris Albertson 
albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
The simple, cheap and easy what to do this is to get a cheap PC of any
kind.  Perhaps a 15 year old notebook PC.  Then connect the serial port
on
the Thunderbolt to the serial port on the PC.  (This is a good reason
to
buy a way-old PC notebook because those had real serial ports.  
Lacking a
serial port, use a USB to serial dongle.)

Then install an OS like BSD or Linux on the PC and you are done.  You
can
then manage the Thunderbolt by remotely logging into the PC and using a
terminal emulator to get to the serial port.  It's pretty simple and
you
will likely find other things to connect to the PC or run on it, like
maybe
NTP and use it for a low-end web or file server.  You can get a good
enough
notebook cheap or a good enough desktop for free.


On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Luc Gaudin lgau...@naelcom.com
wrote:

 Hello,

 I need to have remotely access to Trimble Thunderbolt-E to manage it.
 I first sort out the physical (network) parts to get the Serial port
out
 on the network (unit CSE-H53N from Sollae Systems).
 For management I am looking to use SNMP.
 Is there any system capable to convert the serial information from
the
 Trimble Thunderbolt to SNMP ?
 Some people are talking about proxy agent.
 Is any can help ?

 Best regards

 Luc Gaudin
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Re: [time-nuts] SMTP with Trimble Thunderbolt-E

2014-09-28 Thread Chris Albertson
 Embedded Linux PCs such as Raspberry Pi and Beaglebone Black are cheap and
 can be configured with serial ports, but you may need hardware to stretch
 the PPS


Using a  Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone Black is a good idea.  Maybe better
than my idea to find an old PC notebook and put Linus or UNIX on it.  The
embedded boards cost less and use less power.  And I really doubt you'd
need the stretch a PPS because both boards run general purpose I/O lines
out to headers.  You don't have to send the PPS through the serial port if
you use a Raspberry Pi or Beaglebone Black.   You could remotely log into
the little embedded system using SSH and then do whatever you need to.

But both those embedded systems are ARM based.  You will not be able to run
Wine or a virtual PC on ARM so no Windows software can be used.

As for SNMP.  It looks like you'd have to write some software for that
yourself.  It is not hard to decode the binary data coming from the GPS
recover.  You can start with an open source TSIP reader then modify it to
send SNMP.



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[time-nuts] SMTP with Trimble Thunderbolt-E

2014-09-26 Thread Luc Gaudin
Hello,

I need to have remotely access to Trimble Thunderbolt-E to manage it.
I first sort out the physical (network) parts to get the Serial port out on the 
network (unit CSE-H53N from Sollae Systems).
For management I am looking to use SNMP.
Is there any system capable to convert the serial information from the Trimble 
Thunderbolt to SNMP ?
Some people are talking about proxy agent.
Is any can help ?

Best regards

Luc Gaudin
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Re: [time-nuts] SMTP with Trimble Thunderbolt-E

2014-09-26 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Luc Gaudin lgau...@naelcom.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I need to have remotely access to Trimble Thunderbolt-E to manage it.
 I first sort out the physical (network) parts to get the Serial port out
 on the network (unit CSE-H53N from Sollae Systems).
 For management I am looking to use SNMP.
 Is there any system capable to convert the serial information from the
 Trimble Thunderbolt to SNMP ?
 Some people are talking about proxy agent.


That is probably the only way.


 Is any can help ?


The world seems to have split the problem into two parts: using SNMP for
monitoring and HTTP for configuration/management of a device. This happened
because of the problem of how to manage disparate devices from different
manufacturers in a common management platform.

So, what do you need to accomplish?

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Re: [time-nuts] SMTP with Trimble Thunderbolt-E

2014-09-26 Thread Chris Albertson
The simple, cheap and easy what to do this is to get a cheap PC of any
kind.  Perhaps a 15 year old notebook PC.  Then connect the serial port on
the Thunderbolt to the serial port on the PC.  (This is a good reason to
buy a way-old PC notebook because those had real serial ports.   Lacking a
serial port, use a USB to serial dongle.)

Then install an OS like BSD or Linux on the PC and you are done.  You can
then manage the Thunderbolt by remotely logging into the PC and using a
terminal emulator to get to the serial port.  It's pretty simple and you
will likely find other things to connect to the PC or run on it, like maybe
NTP and use it for a low-end web or file server.  You can get a good enough
notebook cheap or a good enough desktop for free.


On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Luc Gaudin lgau...@naelcom.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I need to have remotely access to Trimble Thunderbolt-E to manage it.
 I first sort out the physical (network) parts to get the Serial port out
 on the network (unit CSE-H53N from Sollae Systems).
 For management I am looking to use SNMP.
 Is there any system capable to convert the serial information from the
 Trimble Thunderbolt to SNMP ?
 Some people are talking about proxy agent.
 Is any can help ?

 Best regards

 Luc Gaudin
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