Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Jerry Hancock]

On the Rb unit I am sending you, I just use female standard jumpers on the 
pins.  You’ll need +24 at about 1A and +5 at 400ma or less.  Be careful if and 
when you open it as the caps I used were a little tall and they might get hung 
up on the case as you slide the board out.  There is a 9-pin header inside but 
I never saw any activity on it.  Overall the units are pretty stable.

Have fun!

Jerry


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> On Jan 12, 2018, at 11:47 AM, paul swed  wrote:
> 
> Hello to the group. The Stable32 book arrived yesterday from Lulu and its
> as expected. Good quality at a reasonable cost.
> It also arrived far faster then the web site would have you believe.
> Regards
> Paul
> WB8TSL
> 
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Dr. David Kirkby <
> drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 5 January 2018 at 14:21, Graham  wrote:
>> 
>>> Lulu is currently having a promotion with free postage for those
>>> contemplating ordering a copy of the manual from Lulu.
>>> 
>>> Get free mail or 50% off ground shipping!
>>> Use promo code *SHIPIT2018*
>>> Expires Jan 8 at 11:59 pm ET
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.lulu.com/shop/william-riley/stable32-user-manual/
>>> paperback/product-3507840.html
>>> 
>>> Lulu frequently has specials, sometimes a percentage discount plus
>> reduced
>>> or no shipping.
>>> 
>>> https://www.lulu.com/
>>> 
>>> cheers, Graham
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for that.
>> 
>> I entered the code, and it worked, but then I see a notice that promotion
>> codes CAN be combined with other promotion codes! That seems unusual, as
>> most places only let you use one promo code. Anyway, a quick Google
>> 
>> https://couponfollow.com/site/lulu.com?ref=3497047
>> 
>> and I found another code for Lulu. First I tried JAN15, but that was
>> rejected. Then I tried FWD15, and that was accepted. So with the
>> combination of FWD15 and SHIPIT2018, it cost me a total of just £10.39
>> (GBP) with free shipping.
>> 
>> I did not bother trying any more codes, but perhaps with patience, the cost
>> could be reduced even more, but I was more than happy to pay that.
>> 
>> Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[paul swed]

Hello to the group. The Stable32 book arrived yesterday from Lulu and its
as expected. Good quality at a reasonable cost.
It also arrived far faster then the web site would have you believe.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Dr. David Kirkby <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:

> On 5 January 2018 at 14:21, Graham  wrote:
>
> > Lulu is currently having a promotion with free postage for those
> > contemplating ordering a copy of the manual from Lulu.
> >
> > Get free mail or 50% off ground shipping!
> > Use promo code *SHIPIT2018*
> > Expires Jan 8 at 11:59 pm ET
> >
>
>
> >
> > http://www.lulu.com/shop/william-riley/stable32-user-manual/
> > paperback/product-3507840.html
> >
> > Lulu frequently has specials, sometimes a percentage discount plus
> reduced
> > or no shipping.
> >
> > https://www.lulu.com/
> >
> > cheers, Graham
>
>
> Thank you for that.
>
> I entered the code, and it worked, but then I see a notice that promotion
> codes CAN be combined with other promotion codes! That seems unusual, as
> most places only let you use one promo code. Anyway, a quick Google
>
> https://couponfollow.com/site/lulu.com?ref=3497047
>
> and I found another code for Lulu. First I tried JAN15, but that was
> rejected. Then I tried FWD15, and that was accepted. So with the
> combination of FWD15 and SHIPIT2018, it cost me a total of just £10.39
> (GBP) with free shipping.
>
> I did not bother trying any more codes, but perhaps with patience, the cost
> could be reduced even more, but I was more than happy to pay that.
>
> Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On 5 January 2018 at 14:21, Graham  wrote:

> Lulu is currently having a promotion with free postage for those
> contemplating ordering a copy of the manual from Lulu.
>
> Get free mail or 50% off ground shipping!
> Use promo code *SHIPIT2018*
> Expires Jan 8 at 11:59 pm ET
>


>
> http://www.lulu.com/shop/william-riley/stable32-user-manual/
> paperback/product-3507840.html
>
> Lulu frequently has specials, sometimes a percentage discount plus reduced
> or no shipping.
>
> https://www.lulu.com/
>
> cheers, Graham


Thank you for that.

I entered the code, and it worked, but then I see a notice that promotion
codes CAN be combined with other promotion codes! That seems unusual, as
most places only let you use one promo code. Anyway, a quick Google

https://couponfollow.com/site/lulu.com?ref=3497047

and I found another code for Lulu. First I tried JAN15, but that was
rejected. Then I tried FWD15, and that was accepted. So with the
combination of FWD15 and SHIPIT2018, it cost me a total of just £10.39
(GBP) with free shipping.

I did not bother trying any more codes, but perhaps with patience, the cost
could be reduced even more, but I was more than happy to pay that.

Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Graham]

Lulu is currently having a promotion with free postage for those 
contemplating ordering a copy of the manual from Lulu.


Get free mail or 50% off ground shipping!
Use promo code *SHIPIT2018*
Expires Jan 8 at 11:59 pm ET

http://www.lulu.com/shop/william-riley/stable32-user-manual/paperback/product-3507840.html

Lulu frequently has specials, sometimes a percentage discount plus 
reduced or no shipping.


https://www.lulu.com/

cheers, Graham



On 2018-01-02 14:46, Tom Van Baak wrote:

 From "Paul Alfille" :
Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary?

I've asked Bill for clarification and will relay any information.



 From "paul swed" 
I suspect we need a Stable32 for dummies book.

When I first started using Stable32 I tried to document each step. See examples 
like:

http://leapsecond.com/pages/ahm-phm/maser1.htm
http://leapsecond.com/pages/doug-rb/
http://leapsecond.com/pages/osa8607-dat/
http://leapsecond.com/pages/hp5065-dat/
http://leapsecond.com/pages/8607-drift/



 From "Magnus Danielson" 
Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.

Stable32 seems highly integrated with the "graphic/win" plotting package 
(www.sciend.com). That may be one of the problems porting the code to unix. But hang on, 
and we'll let Bill tell us for sure.



 From "Dr. David Kirkby" 
Perhaps someone who has both the book and the software, would comment if
the book is very out of date, or would still be useful.

The book is wonderful. The software hasn't fundamentally changed.
Bill also maintains a fantastic site at http://www.wriley.com/ where you will 
find 100+ documents worth reading.

/tvb

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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Poul-Henning Kamp]

In message 
, "Dr. 
David Kirkby" writes:

>those platforms, because otherwise non-portable code will be introduced.
>That's been my experience, both on projects I have managed, and the
>SageMath mathematical software.

Yes, "Trust but verify" :-)

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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On 3 January 2018 at 11:08, Poul-Henning Kamp  wrote:

>
> Anyway, code like this can be written to compile and work across all the
> relevant *IX operating systems with a minimum of effort, so I don't think
> a separate port to any of *BSD, Linux, Solaris or AIX should be necessary.
>
> --
> Poul-Henning Kamp   | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
>


But to achieve code to work on those platforms, it needs regular testing on
those platforms, because otherwise non-portable code will be introduced.
That's been my experience, both on projects I have managed, and the
SageMath mathematical software.

I have here machines running Solaris (both x86 and SPARC), one that runs
AIX, and another another that runs HP-UX, although I have not powered up
the AIX or HP-UX machines for a few years, so I don't know if they still
work. But if there was interest, I could make any of these available by
remote access to others using ssh, although due to power consumption, I
would not run them 24/7/365. The UK is pretty expensive for energy.

Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Poul-Henning Kamp]

In message 

Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On 3 January 2018 at 04:09, Tom Van Baak  wrote:

> I asked Bill for clarification and here's some of what he shared:
>
> > Tom:
> >
> > I’m glad that the word is getting out that Stable32 is now freely
> available.
>
>
> > My donation to the IEEE UFFC included all source code, and it is up to
> them
> > to decide whether and how to make it available.  That has not yet been
> done.
>
>
Great news.


> > My motivation was to see that it lived at least in its present form
> without
> > my having to remain involved.


That's really good of Bill.

I will continue to support the commercial
> > version for a year more, but not the free one.
>
> > The IEEE UFFC Stable32 distribution is  released under a form of the “MIT
> > License” which is as free as can be.  That was made possible last year by
> > Scientific Endeavors Corporation who agreed to end my obligations under a
> > royalty payment agreement for the GraphiC scientific plotting functions
> that
> > Stable32 uses.  No other such issues exist for the Stable32
> distribution, so
> > it became possible to make it free.
>
>
Nice of Scientific Endeavors Corporation.


> > The Stable32 source code is organized into two basic parts, the
> top-level Windows
> > user interface and a DLL that contains the core analysis functionality.
> It is
> > likely that the latter is the more valuable for future versions and
> other purposes.
> > For example, I have ported that Windows FrequenC.dll (which is
> distributed with
> > Stable32) to Linux as a libfrequenc.so shared object library that can be
> used by
> > GCC/G++.  I have also created a wrapper function for that so it can be
> used with
> > Python.  I hope to make these (and the critical FrequenC function
> documentation)
> > available soon.
>
>
Several technologies come to my mind, that could give a multi-platform
version.

1) WxWidgits in C++

2) Qt in C++

3) Mathplotlib in Python.

4) GNUplot

5) Command line version for UNIX and UNIX-like systems.

> I hope this explains things a bit.  The Stable32 distribution package is
> now freely
> > available for all to use.  The Stable32 source code is under the control
> of the
> > IEEE UFFC AdCom.  I plan to make the core Stable32  FrequenC Library
> documentation
> > and functionality available for Windows, Linux and Python.
>

I would not be surprised if Poul-Henning Kamp would be interested in
porting to FreeBSD too.

Solaris is pretty much dying since Oracle bought Sun, so there are
arguments for not bothering with a Solaris port. But from my experience,
testing software on multiple platforms often highlights bugs that exist in
all platforms, but have not been discovered. I lost count of the number of
hours I spent porting Sagemath to Solaris, but a number of bugs were
discovered by me whilst porting to the Solaris. Those bugs existed on
Linux, but had just not manifested themselves.



> > Best regards,
> > Bill Riley
>
> My comments:
>
> 1) I use both Stable32 and TimeLab equally; and now that Stable32 is free,
> everyone can now enjoy both of them too. They overlap somewhat, but each
> has its own set of strengths and target audience. Both show evolutionary
> bloat by now but for the small subset of features one typically uses the
> learning curve is not high. Each includes a comprehensive user guide. Both
> are native Windows apps, and run under emulation on Unix.
>

I assume, but perhaps are mistaken, you mean Linux here. Strictly speaking,
a system is not UNIX unless certified by The Open Group. Linux is certainty
not UNIX, and in several cases the code breaks UNIX compatibility. For
example, on Linux, the df command reports sizes in kb, but for UNIX system
it is 512 byte blocks. I don't know, but I suspect FreeBSD conforms to the
UNIX standard more than Linux. Also on Linux, people tend to use tools like
'which'

drkirkby@hawk:~$ which ls
/usr/bin/ls

to find the path to an executable. But 'which' is not part of the UNIX
standard, so may not be available on a UNIX system.  But the following
gives the same information

drkirkby@hawk:~$ command -v ls
/usr/bin/ls

but works on UNIX systems in addition to Linux systems.

Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Tom Van Baak]

I asked Bill for clarification and here's some of what he shared:

> Tom:
>
> I’m glad that the word is getting out that Stable32 is now freely available.

> The Version 1.62 that is available for download from the IEEE UFFC site is
> identical to the last commercial Version 1.61 except for its UFFC labeling.
> It is a Windows installation file with the executable, ancillary files and
> documentation just like the commercial installation download or CD-ROM.
> The printed User Manual can still be bought as before.

> My donation to the IEEE UFFC included all source code, and it is up to them
> to decide whether and how to make it available.  That has not yet been done.

> My motivation was to see that it lived at least in its present form without
> my having to remain involved.  I will continue to support the commercial
> version for a year more, but not the free one.

> The IEEE UFFC Stable32 distribution is  released under a form of the “MIT
> License” which is as free as can be.  That was made possible last year by
> Scientific Endeavors Corporation who agreed to end my obligations under a
> royalty payment agreement for the GraphiC scientific plotting functions that
> Stable32 uses.  No other such issues exist for the Stable32 distribution, so
> it became possible to make it free.

> The Stable32 source code is organized into two basic parts, the top-level 
> Windows
> user interface and a DLL that contains the core analysis functionality.  It is
> likely that the latter is the more valuable for future versions and other 
> purposes.
> For example, I have ported that Windows FrequenC.dll (which is distributed 
> with
> Stable32) to Linux as a libfrequenc.so shared object library that can be used 
> by
> GCC/G++.  I have also created a wrapper function for that so it can be used 
> with
> Python.  I hope to make these (and the critical FrequenC function 
> documentation)
> available soon.

> I hope this explains things a bit.  The Stable32 distribution package is now 
> freely
> available for all to use.  The Stable32 source code is under the control of 
> the
> IEEE UFFC AdCom.  I plan to make the core Stable32  FrequenC Library 
> documentation
> and functionality available for Windows, Linux and Python.
>
> Best regards,
> Bill Riley

My comments:

1) I use both Stable32 and TimeLab equally; and now that Stable32 is free, 
everyone can now enjoy both of them too. They overlap somewhat, but each has 
its own set of strengths and target audience. Both show evolutionary bloat by 
now but for the small subset of features one typically uses the learning curve 
is not high. Each includes a comprehensive user guide. Both are native Windows 
apps, and run under emulation on Unix.

2) Bill is already working the issues of github / open source / licensing / 
tool chain / cross-platform support so we should hear further developments over 
the next year. I was especially happy to hear about his plans for Python. So 
hang on a while for the open source part; for now enjoy your free copy of 
Stable32. And for those of you not familiar with Bill's career of time & 
frequency work please make a point to browse the papers on his 
http://wriley.com (or http://stable32.com mirror).

/tvb


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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Poul-Henning Kamp]

In message , Magnus D
anielson writes:

>If we rather focused on maintaining and extent it into the
>future, that would be a great way to take care of the heritage. I can
>see myself contributing to that.

Ditto.

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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Magnus Danielson]

Hi Tom,

On 01/02/2018 03:46 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote:
>> From "Paul Alfille" :
>> Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary?
> 
> I've asked Bill for clarification and will relay any information.

I've already sent a message to Bill too.

>> From "Magnus Danielson" 
>> Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
>> see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.
> 
> Stable32 seems highly integrated with the "graphic/win" plotting package 
> (www.sciend.com). That may be one of the problems porting the code to unix. 
> But hang on, and we'll let Bill tell us for sure.

Sure. I know that. I did not say it was easy, and I can respect if Bill
felt he did not have the time and urge to do it because of all the
hurdles, but it would be interesting to look at what it would require.

If GPL, modified MIT or similar license would be possible, that would
sure help into the future.

Several, including me, have done fractional attempts at duplicating the
capability. If we rather focused on maintaining and extent it into the
future, that would be a great way to take care of the heritage. I can
see myself contributing to that. I already do it in another context,
namely to improve the ham training material, and there we went for
Creative Commons license to enable use and future maintenance of that
heritage. I think I can share some experience and assist in that, so let
me know and I can pitch in.

Cheers,
Magnus
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[John Ackermann N8UR]

FWIW, for me the hardest part of working with Stable32 is getting the 
input scaling and other parameters like timestamps correct.  If you 
think like a mathematician, you'll probably do fine.  But I don't, and 
when working in particular with frequency data it always takes me a few 
tries to get it right.


But Stable32 is superb software, and this is a wonderful contribution. 
Thanks, Bill!


John


On 01/02/2018 09:46 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote:

 From "Paul Alfille" :
Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary?


I've asked Bill for clarification and will relay any information.



 From "paul swed" 
I suspect we need a Stable32 for dummies book.


When I first started using Stable32 I tried to document each step. See examples 
like:

http://leapsecond.com/pages/ahm-phm/maser1.htm
http://leapsecond.com/pages/doug-rb/
http://leapsecond.com/pages/osa8607-dat/
http://leapsecond.com/pages/hp5065-dat/
http://leapsecond.com/pages/8607-drift/



 From "Magnus Danielson" 
Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.


Stable32 seems highly integrated with the "graphic/win" plotting package 
(www.sciend.com). That may be one of the problems porting the code to unix. But hang on, 
and we'll let Bill tell us for sure.



 From "Dr. David Kirkby" 
Perhaps someone who has both the book and the software, would comment if
the book is very out of date, or would still be useful.


The book is wonderful. The software hasn't fundamentally changed.
Bill also maintains a fantastic site at http://www.wriley.com/ where you will 
find 100+ documents worth reading.

/tvb

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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Tom Van Baak]

> From "Paul Alfille" :
> Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary?

I've asked Bill for clarification and will relay any information.


> From "paul swed" 
> I suspect we need a Stable32 for dummies book.

When I first started using Stable32 I tried to document each step. See examples 
like:

http://leapsecond.com/pages/ahm-phm/maser1.htm
http://leapsecond.com/pages/doug-rb/
http://leapsecond.com/pages/osa8607-dat/
http://leapsecond.com/pages/hp5065-dat/
http://leapsecond.com/pages/8607-drift/


> From "Magnus Danielson" 
> Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
> see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.

Stable32 seems highly integrated with the "graphic/win" plotting package 
(www.sciend.com). That may be one of the problems porting the code to unix. But 
hang on, and we'll let Bill tell us for sure.


> From "Dr. David Kirkby" 
> Perhaps someone who has both the book and the software, would comment if
> the book is very out of date, or would still be useful.

The book is wonderful. The software hasn't fundamentally changed.
Bill also maintains a fantastic site at http://www.wriley.com/ where you will 
find 100+ documents worth reading.

/tvb

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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[paul swed]

Dave I looked at the link. Expecting the typical $132 and up...
Its Lulu and $19.95. I have ordered books from them before and been very
happy with the product.
I can not answer your question on how up to date  it is. But will look at
the pdf.
If its even a bit decent the $ investment is cheap for a real book.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Dr. David Kirkby <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:

> On 2 January 2018 at 14:10, paul swed  wrote:
>
> > Jelen
> > Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading
> > details.
> > I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages.
> > I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for
> > dummies book.
> > Regards
> > Paul
> > WB8TSL
> >
>
> The manual is available as a book.
>
> http://www.lulu.com/shop/william-riley/stable32-user-
> manual/paperback/product-3507840.html
>
> I don't know about others, but I often find I absorb information better
> reading a book than I do a computer screen, and at the cost of the book, it
> is not really worth the hassle of printing it oneself. That said, the
> software is 2017, and the book published in 2008, so there might be
> significant differences between the book and software. Perhaps someone who
> has both the book and the software, would comment if the book is very out
> of date, or would still be useful.
>
> Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On 2 January 2018 at 14:10, paul swed  wrote:

> Jelen
> Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading
> details.
> I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages.
> I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for
> dummies book.
> Regards
> Paul
> WB8TSL
>

The manual is available as a book.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/william-riley/stable32-user-manual/paperback/product-3507840.html

I don't know about others, but I often find I absorb information better
reading a book than I do a computer screen, and at the cost of the book, it
is not really worth the hassle of printing it oneself. That said, the
software is 2017, and the book published in 2008, so there might be
significant differences between the book and software. Perhaps someone who
has both the book and the software, would comment if the book is very out
of date, or would still be useful.

Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[paul swed]

Jelen
Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading
details.
I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages.
I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for
dummies book.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Bob kb8tq  wrote:

> Hi
>
> If the code also *is* part of the deal (or becomes part of the deal) I
> would suggest that there
> are a series of papers in the “to be written” category about how it does
> what it does. I have
> no idea what the code looks like so this is in no way a knock. It’s a big
> program with a lot of
> research backing up it’s internals. It would be a “first ever” if all the
> footnotes and flow charts
> were already in the code.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Jan 2, 2018, at 6:05 AM, Magnus Danielson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing.
> >
> > Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
> > see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.
> >
> > The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github,
> > preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of
> > people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced
> > programmers here to nurture such a project over time.
> >
> > If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the
> > future from the community.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Magnus
> >
> > On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote:
> >> Dear Time-Nuts,
> >>
> >> Happy New Year!
> >>
> >> Maybe this is of interest for some of you:
> >>
> >> A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
> >> possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
> >> donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
> >> with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:
> >>
> >> https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-
> control-software/stable-32/
> >>
> >>
> >> Many thanks to Bill Riley!
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Matthias
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On 2 January 2018 at 09:30, Matthias Jelen  wrote:

> Dear Time-Nuts,
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Maybe this is of interest for some of you:
>
> A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
> possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he donated
> Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download with the
> beginning of 2018. And here it is:
>
> https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-
> software/stable-32/
>
> Many thanks to Bill Riley!
>

Given Hamilton Technical Services are no longer selling this, I wonder if
the author could be persuaded to release the source code under a GPL or
similar license.


>
> Best regards,
>
> Matthias
>

Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Bob kb8tq]

Hi

If the code also *is* part of the deal (or becomes part of the deal) I would 
suggest that there 
are a series of papers in the “to be written” category about how it does what 
it does. I have
no idea what the code looks like so this is in no way a knock. It’s a big 
program with a lot of
research backing up it’s internals. It would be a “first ever” if all the 
footnotes and flow charts
were already in the code.

Bob

> On Jan 2, 2018, at 6:05 AM, Magnus Danielson  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing.
> 
> Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
> see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.
> 
> The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github,
> preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of
> people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced
> programmers here to nurture such a project over time.
> 
> If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the
> future from the community.
> 
> Cheers,
> Magnus
> 
> On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote:
>> Dear Time-Nuts,
>> 
>> Happy New Year!
>> 
>> Maybe this is of interest for some of you:
>> 
>> A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
>> possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
>> donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
>> with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:
>> 
>> https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/
>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks to Bill Riley!
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Paul Alfille]

Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary?

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 6:05 AM, Magnus Danielson  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing.
>
> Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
> see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.
>
> The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github,
> preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of
> people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced
> programmers here to nurture such a project over time.
>
> If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the
> future from the community.
>
> Cheers,
> Magnus
>
> On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote:
> > Dear Time-Nuts,
> >
> > Happy New Year!
> >
> > Maybe this is of interest for some of you:
> >
> > A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
> > possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
> > donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
> > with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:
> >
> > https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-
> software/stable-32/
> >
> >
> > Many thanks to Bill Riley!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Matthias
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Magnus Danielson]

Hi,

Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing.

Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.

The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github,
preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of
people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced
programmers here to nurture such a project over time.

If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the
future from the community.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote:
> Dear Time-Nuts,
> 
> Happy New Year!
> 
> Maybe this is of interest for some of you:
> 
> A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
> possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
> donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
> with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:
> 
> https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/
> 
> 
> Many thanks to Bill Riley!
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Matthias
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Re: [time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[tim...@timeok.it]

   Very interesting news.
   It would be nice to be able to set the RS232 port to work with the TICC in 
real time.
   Luciano
   www.timeok.it


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   Oggetto [time-nuts] Stable32 now available
   Dear Time-Nuts,

   Happy New Year!

   Maybe this is of interest for some of you:

   A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
   possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
   donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
   with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:

   https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/

   Many thanks to Bill Riley!

   Best regards,

   Matthias
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[time-nuts] Stable32 now available

[Matthias Jelen]

Dear Time-Nuts,

Happy New Year!

Maybe this is of interest for some of you:

A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the 
possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he 
donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download 
with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:


https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/

Many thanks to Bill Riley!

Best regards,

Matthias
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