[time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-29 Thread Mark Sims
No,  they are set up to default to Motorola command set.  And all messages must 
have the proper checksum and CR LF sequence.  When the receiver is in Zodiac 
binary mode, it wont take Motorola commands and vice versa. 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-29 Thread Götz Romahn

may be this zip-file from James Miller helps to set up the Jupiter properly:
http://www.jrmiller.demon.co.uk/projects/ministd/jupcom.zip
Götz


Am 29.06.2016 um 10:45 schrieb Bryan _:




Sorry to be so dense on this but doesn't the unit just default to the Jupiter-T 
command set on power up. I should be able to just enter @@Cj and receive the 
(manufacturer name, model, serial number and software revision ) shouldn't I?


-=Bryan=-


From: hol...@hotmail.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 02:42:50 +
Subject: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs?

"@ @ W b 0x01 cksum 0x0D 0x0A"  will switch from Motorola mode to Zodiac mode.  
The checksum is the XOR of all bytes after the @@ and before the cksum byte.  The 0x?? 
values represent binary bytes.  The spaces are for clarity and are not sent.  
 
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Re: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-29 Thread Bryan _



Sorry to be so dense on this but doesn't the unit just default to the Jupiter-T 
command set on power up. I should be able to just enter @@Cj and receive the 
(manufacturer name, model, serial number and software revision ) shouldn't I?


-=Bryan=-

> From: hol...@hotmail.com
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 02:42:50 +
> Subject: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs?
> 
> "@ @ W b 0x01 cksum 0x0D 0x0A"  will switch from Motorola mode to Zodiac 
> mode.  The checksum is the XOR of all bytes after the @@ and before the cksum 
> byte.  The 0x?? values represent binary bytes.  The spaces are for clarity 
> and are not sent. 
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[time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-28 Thread Mark Sims
"@ @ W b 0x01 cksum 0x0D 0x0A"  will switch from Motorola mode to Zodiac mode.  
The checksum is the XOR of all bytes after the @@ and before the cksum byte.  
The 0x?? values represent binary bytes.  The spaces are for clarity and are not 
sent.   
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Re: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-28 Thread Bryan _



Thanks Mark, just not getting anything on the terminal program, other than a 
little square character upon a restart, even tried my PicKit 2 UART tool. Tried 
both 4800 8N1 and 9600 8N1. Have tried sending @@Cj and a host of other 
supported commands from the users manual ie @@Ea. Even tried some of the other 
Zodiac commands as I understand 1331 etc

Table 6-3 Jupiter-T default command set
The following command is available only on the Navman Jupiter-T receiver: @@Wb: 
commands the receiver to go to Navman binary protocol Note: the receiver will 
always revert to the above protocol on power cycling by using the Navman binary 
command 1331 (message protocol control) when in the Navman binary mode. When 
set to the  Navman binary mode, all of the standard Navman messages are 
supported as well as additional commands relating to timing applications.


-=Bryan=-

> From: hol...@hotmail.com
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:28:28 +
> Subject: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs?
> 
> They default to speaking Motorola binary data.  The burst of data at power-up 
> is the Motorola @@Cj version info string.  You then have to send it some 
> commands to enable various messages.  There is a command to enable Zodiac 
> binary mode. I don't think that they speak NMEA.  
> -
> > Is there any trick in getting serial data from these units. 
> >   
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[time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-28 Thread Mark Sims
They default to speaking Motorola binary data.  The burst of data at power-up 
is the Motorola @@Cj version info string.  You then have to send it some 
commands to enable various messages.  There is a command to enable Zodiac 
binary mode. I don't think that they speak NMEA.  
-
> Is there any trick in getting serial data from these units.   
>   
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Re: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-28 Thread Bryan _
Mark:
Is there any trick in getting serial data from these units. I have my terminal 
program set to 4800 8N1 and the txd and rxd pins on the receiver connected 
through a TTL/RS232 converter to the PC. Can not get anything on the terminal 
screen. Scoping the TXD pin on the receiver and I see a burst of data at power 
up, but that is about it. Any help appreciated.

-=Bryan=-

> From: hol...@hotmail.com
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 01:02:05 +
> Subject: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs?
> 
> From the Zodiac binary message,  mine reports 12 channels,  software ver 
> 93.07 from 01/16/04,   hardware options 5843 (hex).
> --
> > I think the firmware version is in one of the NMEA commands.
> >   
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[time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-17 Thread Mark Sims
BTW,  the Jupiter receivers have a command that can configure the 1PPS output 
to 100PPS.

I got in some V.KSEL Sirf and Ublox receiver modules today and taught Lady 
Heather to speak SIRF binary.  Kind of a waste...  SIRF does not give  give you 
any control over the 1PPS signal and the message that gave some 1PPS info is no 
longer supported.  Also no position hold mode, survey mode, etc.  But I guess 
one can't expect too much from an $8 GPS receiver (with antenna).

  
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Re: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-17 Thread Bryan _
Thanks, sounds like the TU60-D120 series has a completely different firmware 
numbering system than the TU30-140/410 in the link below. I ordered one and 
hopefully it will be fine. Suspect they are newer versions than the TU30's
http://www.jrmiller.demon.co.uk/projects/ministd/frqstd0.htm

-=Bryan=-

> From: hol...@hotmail.com
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 01:02:05 +
> Subject: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs?
> 
> From the Zodiac binary message,  mine reports 12 channels,  software ver 
> 93.07 from 01/16/04,   hardware options 5843 (hex).
> --
> > I think the firmware version is in one of the NMEA commands.
> >   
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[time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-15 Thread Mark Sims
>From the Zodiac binary message,  mine reports 12 channels,  software ver 93.07 
>from 01/16/04,   hardware options 5843 (hex).
--
> I think the firmware version is in one of the NMEA commands.  
>   
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Re: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-15 Thread Bryan _
Yes, that's the seller. I think the firmware version is in one of the NMEA 
commands. 

-=Bryan=-

> From: hol...@hotmail.com
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 04:37:13 +
> Subject: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs?
> 
> Mine came from seller "electronics plus" in Michigan (?) ...  not sure of the 
> firmware,  all my machines are currently tied up doing other stuff at the 
> moment.
> -
> Did you order yours from the same seller on Ebay. 
>   
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[time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-15 Thread Mark Sims
Mine came from seller "electronics plus" in Michigan (?) ...  not sure of the 
firmware,  all my machines are currently tied up doing other stuff at the 
moment.
-
Did you order yours from the same seller on Ebay.   
  
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Re: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-14 Thread Bryan _
Mark:
Did you order yours from the same seller on Ebay. I tried contacting the seller 
to enquire if he knew what the firmware version was. Unfortunately he did not, 
was hoping they are v1.18 or greater.

-=Bryan=-

> From: hol...@hotmail.com
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:24:55 +
> Subject: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs?
> 
> They run on 5V,  talk either Motorola binary (default at power-on) or Zodiac 
> binary (serial data at 9600:8N1).  The antenna connector is MCX.  The one I 
> got in last week does not have any GPS week rollover problems.  
> Their Motorola binary mode seems to have issues setting TRAIM parameters 
> using Motorola commands...  works fine using the Zodiac commands.   Hint: 
> beware of any receivers that emulate Motorola binary (or any other receiver 
> language)... all of them I have tested have some issues doing it.  It's best 
> to run them in their native mode .
> 
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[time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-14 Thread Mark Sims
They run on 5V,  talk either Motorola binary (default at power-on) or Zodiac 
binary (serial data at 9600:8N1).  The antenna connector is MCX.  The one I got 
in last week does not have any GPS week rollover problems.  
Their Motorola binary mode seems to have issues setting TRAIM parameters using 
Motorola commands...  works fine using the Zodiac commands.   Hint: beware of 
any receivers that emulate Motorola binary (or any other receiver language)... 
all of them I have tested have some issues doing it.  It's best to run them in 
their native mode .
  
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Re: [time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-14 Thread Dave M
Datasheet: 
http://www.rabel.org/archives/Navman_Jupiter_11_12/LA010050B_JupiterT_DataSheet.pdf
Example projects: 
http://www.jrmiller.demon.co.uk/projects/ministd/frqstd0.htm

http://www.vhfcomm.co.uk/GPS%20control.pdf

More info by searching Google for NAVMAN TU60-D120

Cheers,
Dave M


Bud Patten wrote:

Does anyone know anything about the TU60-D120-131 being offered on
ebay (voltage? 10Khz? 1 pps?, etc.) .   The seller tells me that he
doesn't know anything about the item he is selling..   ;-)   Any
input would be appreciated.



Regards,

Bud

ARS W0LCP 



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[time-nuts] TU60-D120-131 Specs....?

2016-06-14 Thread Bud Patten
Does anyone know anything about the TU60-D120-131 being offered on ebay
(voltage? 10Khz? 1 pps?, etc.) .   The seller tells me that he doesn't know
anything about the item he is selling..   ;-)   Any input would be
appreciated.

 

Regards,

Bud

ARS W0LCP

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