Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions
All, The Label you are referring to is applied by the equipment mfgr, and has only a loose correlation to the vintage of the Trimble unit inside the case. The label has a bar code, a mfg serial number, the date the production bar code was issued, the Andrew/Grayson assembly part number (A002206.G1), and the revision letter of that assembly. Although I've never looked it up, I think Rev E changed the 3 dB splitter to a different model. If your case either has a small splitter attached, or 4 holes in the top cover where the scrapmonger ripped it off, it is probably a Rev E. That says nothing absolute about the vintage of the Thunderbolt inside. 73, geo - n4ua On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Ziggy zig...@pumpkinbrook.com wrote: Well, if it's any help, on my rev E unit with the 'coarse' temperature chip, there is a sticker on the top (near the power connector) with a bar code, a date (3/14/05) and the Rev E designation. There's also a series of numbers that could be a serial number and some other kind of rev designator but their significance is not clear. My Rev D unit with the 'fine' temperature chip has a similar sticker dated 12/16/03. Paul - K9MR On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Richard W. Solomon wrote: OK, now, how old is old enough ?? Where is the units date code located ? Hopefully, the seller knows (or even cares) where to find it. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Bob Camp li...@rtty.us Sent: Aug 10, 2011 9:59 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions Hi The real question is what's the date code on the unit? If the rev E part is old enough to have the good thermometer chip in it - that's the one to get. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David Garnier Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:19 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions Hi, I'm brand new to the time-nut odessy thing so please bear with me. ;-) I'm in the market to buy a used Thunderbolt, I have found a vendor that's selling used Thunderbolt receivers and states one can have the choice of PCB revisions A, B or E. Does anyone have any specific info or determined the product history of these guys? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave Garnier - wb9own ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions
Hi Roughly mid 2004 is a reasonable point for the divide between the two thermometer chips. They apparently did not have a single magic date after which all boards got the newer / bad resolution chips. Replacement chips are available cheap, so switching the part out is an option. You also find boards that have been upgraded in terms of firmware and re-date coded. They may have been built in 2001, but the date code shows as 2004. Unless you can tear the beast open there is no perfect way to pick. Best bet - buy several and then sort them out. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of George Dubovsky Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:23 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions All, The Label you are referring to is applied by the equipment mfgr, and has only a loose correlation to the vintage of the Trimble unit inside the case. The label has a bar code, a mfg serial number, the date the production bar code was issued, the Andrew/Grayson assembly part number (A002206.G1), and the revision letter of that assembly. Although I've never looked it up, I think Rev E changed the 3 dB splitter to a different model. If your case either has a small splitter attached, or 4 holes in the top cover where the scrapmonger ripped it off, it is probably a Rev E. That says nothing absolute about the vintage of the Thunderbolt inside. 73, geo - n4ua On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Ziggy zig...@pumpkinbrook.com wrote: Well, if it's any help, on my rev E unit with the 'coarse' temperature chip, there is a sticker on the top (near the power connector) with a bar code, a date (3/14/05) and the Rev E designation. There's also a series of numbers that could be a serial number and some other kind of rev designator but their significance is not clear. My Rev D unit with the 'fine' temperature chip has a similar sticker dated 12/16/03. Paul - K9MR On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Richard W. Solomon wrote: OK, now, how old is old enough ?? Where is the units date code located ? Hopefully, the seller knows (or even cares) where to find it. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Bob Camp li...@rtty.us Sent: Aug 10, 2011 9:59 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions Hi The real question is what's the date code on the unit? If the rev E part is old enough to have the good thermometer chip in it - that's the one to get. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David Garnier Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:19 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions Hi, I'm brand new to the time-nut odessy thing so please bear with me. ;-) I'm in the market to buy a used Thunderbolt, I have found a vendor that's selling used Thunderbolt receivers and states one can have the choice of PCB revisions A, B or E. Does anyone have any specific info or determined the product history of these guys? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave Garnier - wb9own ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions
Hi The real question is what's the date code on the unit? If the rev E part is old enough to have the good thermometer chip in it - that's the one to get. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David Garnier Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:19 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions Hi, I'm brand new to the time-nut odessy thing so please bear with me. ;-) I'm in the market to buy a used Thunderbolt, I have found a vendor that's selling used Thunderbolt receivers and states one can have the choice of PCB revisions A, B or E. Does anyone have any specific info or determined the product history of these guys? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave Garnier - wb9own ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions
OK, now, how old is old enough ?? Where is the units date code located ? Hopefully, the seller knows (or even cares) where to find it. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Bob Camp li...@rtty.us Sent: Aug 10, 2011 9:59 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions Hi The real question is what's the date code on the unit? If the rev E part is old enough to have the good thermometer chip in it - that's the one to get. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David Garnier Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:19 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions Hi, I'm brand new to the time-nut odessy thing so please bear with me. ;-) I'm in the market to buy a used Thunderbolt, I have found a vendor that's selling used Thunderbolt receivers and states one can have the choice of PCB revisions A, B or E. Does anyone have any specific info or determined the product history of these guys? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave Garnier - wb9own ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions
Well, if it's any help, on my rev E unit with the 'coarse' temperature chip, there is a sticker on the top (near the power connector) with a bar code, a date (3/14/05) and the Rev E designation. There's also a series of numbers that could be a serial number and some other kind of rev designator but their significance is not clear. My Rev D unit with the 'fine' temperature chip has a similar sticker dated 12/16/03. Paul - K9MR On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Richard W. Solomon wrote: OK, now, how old is old enough ?? Where is the units date code located ? Hopefully, the seller knows (or even cares) where to find it. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Bob Camp li...@rtty.us Sent: Aug 10, 2011 9:59 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions Hi The real question is what's the date code on the unit? If the rev E part is old enough to have the good thermometer chip in it - that's the one to get. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David Garnier Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:19 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions Hi, I'm brand new to the time-nut odessy thing so please bear with me. ;-) I'm in the market to buy a used Thunderbolt, I have found a vendor that's selling used Thunderbolt receivers and states one can have the choice of PCB revisions A, B or E. Does anyone have any specific info or determined the product history of these guys? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave Garnier - wb9own ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Thunderbolt hardware revisions
Hi, I'm brand new to the time-nut odessy thing so please bear with me. ;-) I'm in the market to buy a used Thunderbolt, I have found a vendor that's selling used Thunderbolt receivers and states one can have the choice of PCB revisions A, B or E. Does anyone have any specific info or determined the product history of these guys? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave Garnier - wb9own ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
