Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx and z3805

2010-08-02 Thread Oz-in-DFW


On 8/2/2010 11:45 AM, Bob Camp wrote:
> Hi
>
> The boxes all seem to go into survey, complete it and then happily lock up.
> One seems to have a broken "lock" LED, but z38xx shows it running fine. 
>
> If I understand you correctly, there is no real "write to eeprom" command.
> It's just a matter of turning off the survey at boot function.
>
> I'll have to poke at the beasts tonight and see what they says about their
> current survey settings. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob
Given the original application of these devices I suspect the plan was
that the base station they were installed in would feed them position as
part of the boot process. 

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Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx and z3805

2010-08-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

The boxes all seem to go into survey, complete it and then happily lock up.
One seems to have a broken "lock" LED, but z38xx shows it running fine. 

If I understand you correctly, there is no real "write to eeprom" command.
It's just a matter of turning off the survey at boot function.

I'll have to poke at the beasts tonight and see what they says about their
current survey settings. 

Thanks!

Bob

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To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx and z3805

Hi Bob,
   I have a Z3801A and I am not sure whether the SCIP commands are the 
same as for the Z3805A. There must be some differences related to the 
channel numbers and serial post configuration at least I would expect. I 
think the following apply.

   You need to not only be able to provide a position, as was suggested, 
or from a survey, but to also prevent site survey from starting up at 
power on. Survey at start is default, at least on the Z3801A, and from 
what you say, I suspect your box does the same.
If a position is specified, or the survey completes OK, the unit should 
go to position hold mode automatically.
  To check.
:GPS:POSition:HOLD:STATe?

To specify what startup mode you want
:GPS:POSition:SURVey:STATe:POWerup ON or OFFON forces a survey.
  to check
:GPS:POSition:SURVey:STATe:POWerup?

If it is turned off the receiver will use the last valid position it 
has. This might be the default , (Korea) if the eprom is shot.

hope that helps,
Mike

Le 02/08/2010 00:42, Bob Camp a écrit :
> GPS:POS N,DD,MM,SS,W,DD,MM,SS,ALT
> >  
>




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Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx and z3805

2010-08-01 Thread mike cook

Hi Bob,
  I have a Z3801A and I am not sure whether the SCIP commands are the 
same as for the Z3805A. There must be some differences related to the 
channel numbers and serial post configuration at least I would expect. I 
think the following apply.


  You need to not only be able to provide a position, as was suggested, 
or from a survey, but to also prevent site survey from starting up at 
power on. Survey at start is default, at least on the Z3801A, and from 
what you say, I suspect your box does the same.
If a position is specified, or the survey completes OK, the unit should 
go to position hold mode automatically.

 To check.
:GPS:POSition:HOLD:STATe?

To specify what startup mode you want
:GPS:POSition:SURVey:STATe:POWerup ON or OFFON forces a survey.
 to check
:GPS:POSition:SURVey:STATe:POWerup?

If it is turned off the receiver will use the last valid position it 
has. This might be the default , (Korea) if the eprom is shot.


hope that helps,
Mike

Le 02/08/2010 00:42, Bob Camp a écrit :

GPS:POS N,DD,MM,SS,W,DD,MM,SS,ALT
>  
   





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Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx and z3805

2010-08-01 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

Does that save it to eeprom? 

I'm happy with the result of the survey, so a single command to save it may be 
all that's needed.

Bob


On Aug 1, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Brian Kirby wrote:

> Have you tried entering the position data manually ?
> 
> GPS:POS N,DD,MM,SS,W,DD,MM,SS,ALT
> 
> altitude in meters
> 
> On 8/1/2010 2:04 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> What's the current thinking on saving the survey position on a z3805? Each 
>> time mine power cycle they come back believing they are in Korea somewhere.
>> 
>> Is there a simple "do these three things" recipe to get it saved to eeprom?
>> 
>> It's not a real big deal since they take quite a while to stabilize and 
>> really run right. It's more of a nuisance issue. I'd hate to nuke the unit 
>> fixing a minor problem.
>> 
>> I'm sure if I dug long enough in the archives I could get close to an 
>> answer, but hey, I'm lazy 
>> 
>> Bob
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Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx and z3805

2010-08-01 Thread Brian Kirby

Have you tried entering the position data manually ?

GPS:POS N,DD,MM,SS,W,DD,MM,SS,ALT

altitude in meters

On 8/1/2010 2:04 PM, Bob Camp wrote:

Hi

What's the current thinking on saving the survey position on a z3805? Each time 
mine power cycle they come back believing they are in Korea somewhere.

Is there a simple "do these three things" recipe to get it saved to eeprom?

It's not a real big deal since they take quite a while to stabilize and really 
run right. It's more of a nuisance issue. I'd hate to nuke the unit fixing a 
minor problem.

I'm sure if I dug long enough in the archives I could get close to an answer, 
but hey, I'm lazy 

Bob
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[time-nuts] Z38xx and z3805

2010-08-01 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

What's the current thinking on saving the survey position on a z3805? Each time 
mine power cycle they come back believing they are in Korea somewhere. 

Is there a simple "do these three things" recipe to get it saved to eeprom?

It's not a real big deal since they take quite a while to stabilize and really 
run right. It's more of a nuisance issue. I'd hate to nuke the unit fixing a 
minor problem. 

I'm sure if I dug long enough in the archives I could get close to an answer, 
but hey, I'm lazy 

Bob
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