Re: [time-nuts] unknown GPSDO

2017-07-18 Thread Tim Shoppa
The original Brooks Shera unit was 20 years ago and is pretty well
documented in QST and his website. In the original the loop filter
timeconstant was set by jumpers or DIPswitches. And I think the EFC gain
factor was set somewhere else (DIPswitch? Resistor network? Both?)

Shera's webpage documents some improvements and changes up through 2001 but
there have been an incredible number of variations out there in the wild as
folks move parameters that used to be set in hardware/DIPswitches to
firmware with LCD config screens etc. I think the OP's unit shows a decade
or more of evolution past what Shera documents.

Is there a "Brooks Shera GPS family tree" out there showing recent
evolution of the design?

Tim N3QE

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:10 AM, David C. Partridge <
david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk> wrote:

> ISTR that you started it with a short time constant to get locked,  and
> once you had lock you would increase the time constant in a few steps to a
> final value of (say) 1000s or so.
>
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
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> Esper
> Sent: 18 July 2017 14:15
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> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] unknown GPSDO
>
> Thanks so far. I will have a look at the docs.
>
> The machine is running well, particularly the OCXO is performing very good
> when free running (without GPS signal). It is stable and its ADEV looks
> good (2E-10 at 10s). Not so the overall ADEV (when GPS locked)
> (1E-5 at 10s). It seems to not having the right filter time constant what
> had to be much longer. As I understand the documents, the filter constant
> can be programmed and I will experiment whith that this afternoon.
>
> Thank you
>
> Volker
>
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Re: [time-nuts] unknown GPSDO

2017-07-18 Thread David C. Partridge
ISTR that you started it with a short time constant to get locked,  and once 
you had lock you would increase the time constant in a few steps to a final 
value of (say) 1000s or so.

Dave

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From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Volker Esper
Sent: 18 July 2017 14:15
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] unknown GPSDO

Thanks so far. I will have a look at the docs.

The machine is running well, particularly the OCXO is performing very good when 
free running (without GPS signal). It is stable and its ADEV looks good (2E-10 
at 10s). Not so the overall ADEV (when GPS locked)
(1E-5 at 10s). It seems to not having the right filter time constant what had 
to be much longer. As I understand the documents, the filter constant can be 
programmed and I will experiment whith that this afternoon.

Thank you

Volker

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Re: [time-nuts] unknown GPSDO

2017-07-18 Thread Volker Esper
Thanks so far. I will have a look at the docs.

The machine is running well, particularly the OCXO is performing very
good when free running (without GPS signal). It is stable and its ADEV
looks good (2E-10 at 10s). Not so the overall ADEV (when GPS locked)
(1E-5 at 10s). It seems to not having the right filter time constant
what had to be much longer. As I understand the documents, the filter
constant can be programmed and I will experiment whith that this afternoon.

Thank you

Volker

Am 17.07.2017 um 16:36 schrieb EB4APL:
> Hi Volker,
> 
> Browsing on my documentation I found that 402NE wast the last version of
> Brooks Shera's (W5OJM) code for the PIC, made in collaboration with
> Bob Leichner (WO6W). Probably this ham was one of Shera´s friends who
> developed the last version and published the sources.
> 
> I include below the instructions that Shera sent me with version 402NE
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ignacio, EB4APL
> 
> 
> 
> W5OJM GPS-DISCIPLINED FREQUENCY STANDARD...
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Re: [time-nuts] unknown GPSDO

2017-07-17 Thread Richard Solomon
The July 1998 QST had an article on a GPSDO he designed.

That may help.


73, Dick, W1KSZ


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Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:47:42 AM
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Subject: [time-nuts] unknown GPSDO

Hello dear fellow time-nuts,

Last weekend I bought a selfmade GPSDO at the fleamarket for a very
adequate price. Now I need some more information about it to operate it.
It seems to work fine, but I don't understand the displayed numbers, the
menu, the lamps, the DIP switches...

Can you help to identify it? I couldn't find it on the internet. Here
are some fotos...

When powering up, the display shows "Brooks Shera GPSVCXO 2014".
Enthough that might give me a clear hint to identify it, I only found
the starting docs from 1998 or so, but not the actual board.

Thanks a lot!

Volker


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[time-nuts] Unknown GPSDO

2008-12-01 Thread Bill Janssen
Do any of you know any details of an unknown GPS DO. Visual GPS 
identifies it as
a Motorola VP/GT. It fas a Motorola 5 MHz. packaged oscillator and a 
Motorola GPS receiver.
The receiver is apparently a 6 channel model. One of the circuit boards 
are marked 1991-1994.

It has 1 Hz, pulse and 5 MHz. on the back and front . but the back is 
only activated when it
is in service It also has a RS232 interface on the back and two 
connectors I don't understand. One is a two row 10 pin header the other 
connector  is a RJ (similar to telephone) connector.

It apparently works, but even when the in service light is on it  it 
is still not locked when I compare
it to anther GPSDO

Any source of information on this unit is appreciated

Bill K7NOM


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