Re: [time-nuts] Advantages.. CAN THIS STOP PLEASE
Yes, Yes, Yes! Ulrich Bangert Ortholzer Weg 1 D-27243 Gross Ippener Germany Am 21.06.2010 um 18:25 schrieb saidj...@aol.com: CAN THIS FREAKING THREAD STOP PLEASE. Said In a message dated 6/21/2010 05:20:19 Pacific Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Bob, On 21 June 2010 23:17, gandal...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 21/06/2010 06:26:46 GMT Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Well, Mr. Smartypants, the difference here is that his Snake Oil has been proven to work. I don't particularly care how the thing works mathematically, I'm more interested in the results. If you want to get bogged down in the nitty gritty instead of looking at the big picture then you are the one loosing out here. A respected member of this list carried out tests of this TPLL implementation against a expensive piece of equipment and found it produced very similar results over an expected range of usability with a lot of different DUT and spending a month doing it. Stop trying to extract stuff out of Warren that he has already said he is unable to give you. He is an amateur experimental engineer (no offence intended Warren) and as such doesn't have, or need, to understand this stuff mathematically or in the secret special language that only the professional engineering gods know. He has something you don't have, he has a $10 gadgit that produces results that are easily good enough for many on this list. So it looks like your the looser here! Whilst it's possible you might have been blessed with inner secrets hidden from us mere mortals, it would seem much more likely that you're just droning the mantras of the master. Your banter answers nothing. And if I got my G8 before you is in any way important to you, then I find that really sad. Did I really have to include a smiley on that one to another Brit. K Steve Over and out Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Advantages.. CAN THIS STOP PLEASE
Oh, c'mon. I haven't had this much fun since, say, the third grade... Don Ulrich Bangert Yes, Yes, Yes! Ulrich Bangert Ortholzer Weg 1 D-27243 Gross Ippener Germany Am 21.06.2010 um 18:25 schrieb saidj...@aol.com: CAN THIS FREAKING THREAD STOP PLEASE. Said In a message dated 6/21/2010 05:20:19 Pacific Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Bob, On 21 June 2010 23:17, gandal...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 21/06/2010 06:26:46 GMT Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Well, Mr. Smartypants, the difference here is that his Snake Oil has been proven to work. I don't particularly care how the thing works mathematically, I'm more interested in the results. If you want to get bogged down in the nitty gritty instead of looking at the big picture then you are the one loosing out here. A respected member of this list carried out tests of this TPLL implementation against a expensive piece of equipment and found it produced very similar results over an expected range of usability with a lot of different DUT and spending a month doing it. Stop trying to extract stuff out of Warren that he has already said he is unable to give you. He is an amateur experimental engineer (no offence intended Warren) and as such doesn't have, or need, to understand this stuff mathematically or in the secret special language that only the professional engineering gods know. He has something you don't have, he has a $10 gadgit that produces results that are easily good enough for many on this list. So it looks like your the looser here! Whilst it's possible you might have been blessed with inner secrets hidden from us mere mortals, it would seem much more likely that you're just droning the mantras of the master. Your banter answers nothing. And if I got my G8 before you is in any way important to you, then I find that really sad. Did I really have to include a smiley on that one to another Brit. K Steve Over and out Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind. R. Bacon Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Advantages.. CAN THIS STOP PLEASE
Don, you name it or don't you ? Ulrich Bangert Ortholzer Weg 1 D-27243 Gross Ippener Germany Am 21.06.2010 um 20:04 schrieb Don Latham d...@montana.com: Oh, c'mon. I haven't had this much fun since, say, the third grade... Don Ulrich Bangert Yes, Yes, Yes! Ulrich Bangert Ortholzer Weg 1 D-27243 Gross Ippener Germany Am 21.06.2010 um 18:25 schrieb saidj...@aol.com: CAN THIS FREAKING THREAD STOP PLEASE. Said In a message dated 6/21/2010 05:20:19 Pacific Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Bob, On 21 June 2010 23:17, gandal...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 21/06/2010 06:26:46 GMT Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Well, Mr. Smartypants, the difference here is that his Snake Oil has been proven to work. I don't particularly care how the thing works mathematically, I'm more interested in the results. If you want to get bogged down in the nitty gritty instead of looking at the big picture then you are the one loosing out here. A respected member of this list carried out tests of this TPLL implementation against a expensive piece of equipment and found it produced very similar results over an expected range of usability with a lot of different DUT and spending a month doing it. Stop trying to extract stuff out of Warren that he has already said he is unable to give you. He is an amateur experimental engineer (no offence intended Warren) and as such doesn't have, or need, to understand this stuff mathematically or in the secret special language that only the professional engineering gods know. He has something you don't have, he has a $10 gadgit that produces results that are easily good enough for many on this list. So it looks like your the looser here! Whilst it's possible you might have been blessed with inner secrets hidden from us mere mortals, it would seem much more likely that you're just droning the mantras of the master. Your banter answers nothing. And if I got my G8 before you is in any way important to you, then I find that really sad. Did I really have to include a smiley on that one to another Brit. K Steve Over and out Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind. R. Bacon Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Advantages.. CAN THIS STOP PLEASE
No, I'm quite enjoying the spat. It's quite entertaining, and currently beating the football!! (sorry - soccer for you guys across the pond!). Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Don Latham Sent: 21 June 2010 7:04 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Advantages.. CAN THIS STOP PLEASE Oh, c'mon. I haven't had this much fun since, say, the third grade... Don Ulrich Bangert Yes, Yes, Yes! Ulrich Bangert Ortholzer Weg 1 D-27243 Gross Ippener Germany Am 21.06.2010 um 18:25 schrieb saidj...@aol.com: CAN THIS FREAKING THREAD STOP PLEASE. Said In a message dated 6/21/2010 05:20:19 Pacific Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Bob, On 21 June 2010 23:17, gandal...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 21/06/2010 06:26:46 GMT Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Well, Mr. Smartypants, the difference here is that his Snake Oil has been proven to work. I don't particularly care how the thing works mathematically, I'm more interested in the results. If you want to get bogged down in the nitty gritty instead of looking at the big picture then you are the one loosing out here. A respected member of this list carried out tests of this TPLL implementation against a expensive piece of equipment and found it produced very similar results over an expected range of usability with a lot of different DUT and spending a month doing it. Stop trying to extract stuff out of Warren that he has already said he is unable to give you. He is an amateur experimental engineer (no offence intended Warren) and as such doesn't have, or need, to understand this stuff mathematically or in the secret special language that only the professional engineering gods know. He has something you don't have, he has a $10 gadgit that produces results that are easily good enough for many on this list. So it looks like your the looser here! Whilst it's possible you might have been blessed with inner secrets hidden from us mere mortals, it would seem much more likely that you're just droning the mantras of the master. Your banter answers nothing. And if I got my G8 before you is in any way important to you, then I find that really sad. Did I really have to include a smiley on that one to another Brit. K Steve Over and out Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind. R. Bacon Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Advantages.. CAN THIS STOP PLEASE
Sorry, Ours is football, yours is tackle. (Many, many years ago in a QSO with a New Zelander he said: -I'm not head down, you are...) Antonio CT1TE Quoting Rob Kimberley r...@timing-consultants.com: No, I'm quite enjoying the spat. It's quite entertaining, and currently beating the football!! (sorry - soccer for you guys across the pond!). Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Don Latham Sent: 21 June 2010 7:04 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Advantages.. CAN THIS STOP PLEASE Oh, c'mon. I haven't had this much fun since, say, the third grade... Don Ulrich Bangert Yes, Yes, Yes! Ulrich Bangert Ortholzer Weg 1 D-27243 Gross Ippener Germany Am 21.06.2010 um 18:25 schrieb saidj...@aol.com: CAN THIS FREAKING THREAD STOP PLEASE. Said In a message dated 6/21/2010 05:20:19 Pacific Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Bob, On 21 June 2010 23:17, gandal...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 21/06/2010 06:26:46 GMT Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Well, Mr. Smartypants, the difference here is that his Snake Oil has been proven to work. I don't particularly care how the thing works mathematically, I'm more interested in the results. If you want to get bogged down in the nitty gritty instead of looking at the big picture then you are the one loosing out here. A respected member of this list carried out tests of this TPLL implementation against a expensive piece of equipment and found it produced very similar results over an expected range of usability with a lot of different DUT and spending a month doing it. Stop trying to extract stuff out of Warren that he has already said he is unable to give you. He is an amateur experimental engineer (no offence intended Warren) and as such doesn't have, or need, to understand this stuff mathematically or in the secret special language that only the professional engineering gods know. He has something you don't have, he has a $10 gadgit that produces results that are easily good enough for many on this list. So it looks like your the looser here! Whilst it's possible you might have been blessed with inner secrets hidden from us mere mortals, it would seem much more likely that you're just droning the mantras of the master. Your banter answers nothing. And if I got my G8 before you is in any way important to you, then I find that really sad. Did I really have to include a smiley on that one to another Brit. K Steve Over and out Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind. R. Bacon Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Advantages.. CAN THIS STOP PLEASE
On 22 June 2010 04:25, saidj...@aol.com wrote: CAN THIS FREAKING THREAD STOP PLEASE. Use the key marked 'Del' on your keyboard. Steve Said In a message dated 6/21/2010 05:20:19 Pacific Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Bob, On 21 June 2010 23:17, gandal...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 21/06/2010 06:26:46 GMT Daylight Time, sar10...@gmail.com writes: Well, Mr. Smartypants, the difference here is that his Snake Oil has been proven to work. I don't particularly care how the thing works mathematically, I'm more interested in the results. If you want to get bogged down in the nitty gritty instead of looking at the big picture then you are the one loosing out here. A respected member of this list carried out tests of this TPLL implementation against a expensive piece of equipment and found it produced very similar results over an expected range of usability with a lot of different DUT and spending a month doing it. Stop trying to extract stuff out of Warren that he has already said he is unable to give you. He is an amateur experimental engineer (no offence intended Warren) and as such doesn't have, or need, to understand this stuff mathematically or in the secret special language that only the professional engineering gods know. He has something you don't have, he has a $10 gadgit that produces results that are easily good enough for many on this list. So it looks like your the looser here! Whilst it's possible you might have been blessed with inner secrets hidden from us mere mortals, it would seem much more likely that you're just droning the mantras of the master. Your banter answers nothing. And if I got my G8 before you is in any way important to you, then I find that really sad. Did I really have to include a smiley on that one to another Brit. K Steve Over and out Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Advantages.. CAN THIS STOP PLEASE
On 22 June 2010 06:04, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: Oh, c'mon. I haven't had this much fun since, say, the third grade... They're all having fun or they wouldn't keep reading this stuff. Don -- Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind. R. Bacon So that's why Warren's mind is so quiet :) 73 Steve Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
