Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread paul swed
Looks simple but trying to order 1 piece seems a challenge.
Minicircuits wants 10 or $59. Not bad but don't need 10 :-)
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Mike Seguin n1...@burlingtontelecom.net
wrote:

 Paul, W1GHZ has put together a simple doubler for the 5 MHz OCXO in the
 Lucent boxes. It's based on a Minicircuits part with MIMIC amp.

 Details here:

 http://users.burlingtontelecom.net/~n1...@burlingtontelecom.net/images/
 Simple_Frequency_Doubler.pdf

 Mike

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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread Dave M
Give them a call... they are more than willing to sell single pieces of 
almost any of their products, at the listed lowest quantity price, 
especially if you are a Ham.  I recently bought several items, some of them 
in single quantities.  Many of their MMICs are priced so low that you can 
easily buy ten at a time.  Even with shipping, they are cheaper than buying 
from the Chinese Ebay sellers.


Dave M

paul swed wrote:

Looks simple but trying to order 1 piece seems a challenge.
Minicircuits wants 10 or $59. Not bad but don't need 10 :-)
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Mike Seguin
n1...@burlingtontelecom.net wrote:


Paul, W1GHZ has put together a simple doubler for the 5 MHz OCXO in
the Lucent boxes. It's based on a Minicircuits part with MIMIC amp.

Details here:

http://users.burlingtontelecom.net/~n1...@burlingtontelecom.net/images/
Simple_Frequency_Doubler.pdf

Mike

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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread paul swed
Dave call?? I don't see a #.
I have skype so easy enough.
Happy to.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Dave M dgmin...@mediacombb.net wrote:

 Give them a call... they are more than willing to sell single pieces of
 almost any of their products, at the listed lowest quantity price,
 especially if you are a Ham.  I recently bought several items, some of them
 in single quantities.  Many of their MMICs are priced so low that you can
 easily buy ten at a time.  Even with shipping, they are cheaper than buying
 from the Chinese Ebay sellers.

 Dave M


 paul swed wrote:

 Looks simple but trying to order 1 piece seems a challenge.
 Minicircuits wants 10 or $59. Not bad but don't need 10 :-)
 Regards
 Paul
 WB8TSL

 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Mike Seguin
 n1...@burlingtontelecom.net wrote:

  Paul, W1GHZ has put together a simple doubler for the 5 MHz OCXO in
 the Lucent boxes. It's based on a Minicircuits part with MIMIC amp.

 Details here:

 http://users.burlingtontelecom.net/~n1...@burlingtontelecom.net/images/
 Simple_Frequency_Doubler.pdf

 Mike

 --

 73,
 Mike, N1JEZ
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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread Rob040 .
Hi Mike,

It's indeed a very simple circuit, but... not if you want to double 5MHz. It's 
working from 10MHz onwards and it seems there is no other version available 
that goes lower. Or is it good enough to use it also for 5Mc?

Regards,
Rob.


 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:08:10 -0500
 From: n1...@burlingtontelecom.net
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler
 
 Paul, W1GHZ has put together a simple doubler for the 5 MHz OCXO in the 
 Lucent boxes. It's based on a Minicircuits part with MIMIC amp.
 
 Details here:
 
 http://users.burlingtontelecom.net/~n1...@burlingtontelecom.net/images/Simple_Frequency_Doubler.pdf
 
 Mike
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread Mike Seguin

Hi Rob,

It works fine at 5 MHz to double to 10 MHz. The numbers Paul listed are 
for 5 to 10 MHz.


Mike

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On 2014-11-25 12:24, Rob040 . wrote:

Hi Mike,

It's indeed a very simple circuit, but... not if you want to double
5MHz. It's working from 10MHz onwards and it seems there is no other
version available that goes lower. Or is it good enough to use it also
for 5Mc?

Regards,
Rob.



Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:08:10 -0500
From: n1...@burlingtontelecom.net
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

Paul, W1GHZ has put together a simple doubler for the 5 MHz OCXO in 
the

Lucent boxes. It's based on a Minicircuits part with MIMIC amp.

Details here:

http://users.burlingtontelecom.net/~n1...@burlingtontelecom.net/images/Simple_Frequency_Doubler.pdf

Mike

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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread Rob040 .
Hi Mike,

Thanks for your confirmation and indeed now I saw it. Sorry, I was confused 
after looking at the datasheet of the AMK-2-13+ *shame*.

Bye,
Rob.

 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:59:07 -0500
 From: n1...@burlingtontelecom.net
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 It works fine at 5 MHz to double to 10 MHz. The numbers Paul listed are 
 for 5 to 10 MHz.
 
 Mike
 
 ---
 73,
 Mike, N1JEZ
 A closed mouth gathers no feet
 
 On 2014-11-25 12:24, Rob040 . wrote:
  Hi Mike,
  
  It's indeed a very simple circuit, but... not if you want to double
  5MHz. It's working from 10MHz onwards and it seems there is no other
  version available that goes lower. Or is it good enough to use it also
  for 5Mc?
  
  Regards,
  Rob.
  
  
  Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:08:10 -0500
  From: n1...@burlingtontelecom.net
  To: time-nuts@febo.com
  Subject: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler
  
  Paul, W1GHZ has put together a simple doubler for the 5 MHz OCXO in 
  the
  Lucent boxes. It's based on a Minicircuits part with MIMIC amp.
  
  Details here:
  
  http://users.burlingtontelecom.net/~n1...@burlingtontelecom.net/images/Simple_Frequency_Doubler.pdf
  
  Mike
  
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  73,
  Mike, N1JEZ
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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

Based on using the same amp for other projects, I would strongly suggest 
checking the phase noise / ADEV of that doubler before depending on it’s output.

Bob

 On Nov 25, 2014, at 6:08 AM, Mike Seguin n1...@burlingtontelecom.net wrote:
 
 Paul, W1GHZ has put together a simple doubler for the 5 MHz OCXO in the 
 Lucent boxes. It's based on a Minicircuits part with MIMIC amp.
 
 Details here:
 
 http://users.burlingtontelecom.net/~n1...@burlingtontelecom.net/images/Simple_Frequency_Doubler.pdf
 
 Mike
 
 -- 
 
 73,
 Mike, N1JEZ
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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Using an attenuator between the doubler output and the amplifier input 
degrades the phase noise significantly.

Bruce

On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 06:00:30 PM Bob Camp wrote:
 Hi
 
 Based on using the same amp for other projects, I would strongly 
suggest
 checking the phase noise / ADEV of that doubler before depending on 
it’s
 output.
 
 Bob
 
  On Nov 25, 2014, at 6:08 AM, Mike Seguin 
n1...@burlingtontelecom.net
  wrote:
  
  Paul, W1GHZ has put together a simple doubler for the 5 MHz OCXO in 
the
  Lucent boxes. It's based on a Minicircuits part with MIMIC amp.
  
  Details here:
  
  
http://users.burlingtontelecom.net/~n1...@burlingtontelecom.net/images/
Sim
  ple_Frequency_Doubler.pdf
  
  Mike
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread Dave M
Paul, there's a list of sales office contacts (depending on your location) 
at http://www.minicircuits.com/contact/na_sales_reps.html  (assuming that 
you're in North America; if not, go to the International offices link).


Dave M

paul swed wrote:

Dave call?? I don't see a #.
I have skype so easy enough.
Happy to.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Dave M dgmin...@mediacombb.net
wrote:


Give them a call... they are more than willing to sell single pieces
of almost any of their products, at the listed lowest quantity price,
especially if you are a Ham.  I recently bought several items, some
of them in single quantities.  Many of their MMICs are priced so low
that you can easily buy ten at a time.  Even with shipping, they are
cheaper than buying from the Chinese Ebay sellers.

Dave M


paul swed wrote:


Looks simple but trying to order 1 piece seems a challenge.
Minicircuits wants 10 or $59. Not bad but don't need 10 :-)
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Mike Seguin
n1...@burlingtontelecom.net wrote:

 Paul, W1GHZ has put together a simple doubler for the 5 MHz OCXO in

the Lucent boxes. It's based on a Minicircuits part with MIMIC amp.

Details here:

http://users.burlingtontelecom.net/~n1...@burlingtontelecom.net/images/
Simple_Frequency_Doubler.pdf

Mike

--

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
A closed mouth gathers no feet


Dave M 



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