Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
I run T-Bolt mon and Lady Heather successfully on Windows-7 64-bit using FDTI USB to serial converters. With the FDTI USB converters you can disable 'Serial Enumerator' in the advanced device properties to stop the port being assumed to be a mouse by Windows. On 21/04/2013 12:19, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Dick I've tried it via a Prolific USB to serial adapter, running as COM4, and as far as I can tell, the answer is yes---ish:-) Both TboltMon version 2.60 and Trimble GPS monitor 1.60, seem to be ok monitoring a Thunderbolt under Win7 Ultimate 32 bit, until Windows pulls its old trick and decides the data is coming from a serial mouse, in this case a serial ballpoint mouse. Disabling the mouse restores operation, and I can once more switch between the two Trimble programs ok, but online comments suggest that a permanent fix for this problem, which has been around for years, seems to be far more elusive under Win7 than with previous versions. Although I'm using a USB to serial converter, as this Win7 laptop has no actual serial ports, previous experience with the WinXP rackmount kit I normally use, where I have fixed it permanently, suggests the problem is just as likely to occur with proper serial ports. Just checked Lady Heather and she's also running fine under Win7 using the same setup. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 21/04/2013 03:49:40 GMT Daylight Time, w1...@earthlink.net writes: Will T-Bolt Mon work in Windows 7 ? Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
Hi Stephen There's certainly no problem running Lady H under Win7, nor running T-BoltMon as per the original question, but some users seem to be finding the serial mouse problem to be more persistent under Win7 than it was in previous versions. It's not suggested that the usual fixes don't work, for example my disabling of the serial ball point mouse has worked for me so far and I'm hoping it's permanent just as it seems your disabling serial enumerator might have been, but there's also a lot of reports online from users who found the fixes to be permanent in earlier versions of Windows only to find with Win7 that they might only be temporary, either for a relatively short period before reverting or even needing to be applied evry time Windows is booted. It just seems to be a bit more hit and miss than it used to be and with less of a one for all guaranteed answer. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 22/04/2013 17:26:12 GMT Daylight Time, step...@tompsett.net writes: I run T-Bolt mon and Lady Heather successfully on Windows-7 64-bit using FDTI USB to serial converters. With the FDTI USB converters you can disable 'Serial Enumerator' in the advanced device properties to stop the port being assumed to be a mouse by Windows. On 21/04/2013 12:19, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Dick I've tried it via a Prolific USB to serial adapter, running as COM4, and as far as I can tell, the answer is yes---ish:-) Both TboltMon version 2.60 and Trimble GPS monitor 1.60, seem to be ok monitoring a Thunderbolt under Win7 Ultimate 32 bit, until Windows pulls its old trick and decides the data is coming from a serial mouse, in this case a serial ballpoint mouse. Disabling the mouse restores operation, and I can once more switch between the two Trimble programs ok, but online comments suggest that a permanent fix for this problem, which has been around for years, seems to be far more elusive under Win7 than with previous versions. Although I'm using a USB to serial converter, as this Win7 laptop has no actual serial ports, previous experience with the WinXP rackmount kit I normally use, where I have fixed it permanently, suggests the problem is just as likely to occur with proper serial ports. Just checked Lady Heather and she's also running fine under Win7 using the same setup. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 21/04/2013 03:49:40 GMT Daylight Time, w1...@earthlink.net writes: Will T-Bolt Mon work in Windows 7 ? Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
Hi Dick I've tried it via a Prolific USB to serial adapter, running as COM4, and as far as I can tell, the answer is yes---ish:-) Both TboltMon version 2.60 and Trimble GPS monitor 1.60, seem to be ok monitoring a Thunderbolt under Win7 Ultimate 32 bit, until Windows pulls its old trick and decides the data is coming from a serial mouse, in this case a serial ballpoint mouse. Disabling the mouse restores operation, and I can once more switch between the two Trimble programs ok, but online comments suggest that a permanent fix for this problem, which has been around for years, seems to be far more elusive under Win7 than with previous versions. Although I'm using a USB to serial converter, as this Win7 laptop has no actual serial ports, previous experience with the WinXP rackmount kit I normally use, where I have fixed it permanently, suggests the problem is just as likely to occur with proper serial ports. Just checked Lady Heather and she's also running fine under Win7 using the same setup. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 21/04/2013 03:49:40 GMT Daylight Time, w1...@earthlink.net writes: Will T-Bolt Mon work in Windows 7 ? Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
I guess I'll forgo the pleasures of WIN7 and stick with my XP Laptop. Maybe some day it will different. BTW, I tried a Beta version of Lady Heather, when I try to expand to full screen, the program aborts. This is on a 486 Laptop I have. Is there a working version somewhere ?? Thanks for all the replies, 73, Dick, W1KSZ On 4/21/2013 4:19 AM, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Dick I've tried it via a Prolific USB to serial adapter, running as COM4, and as far as I can tell, the answer is yes---ish:-) Both TboltMon version 2.60 and Trimble GPS monitor 1.60, seem to be ok monitoring a Thunderbolt under Win7 Ultimate 32 bit, until Windows pulls its old trick and decides the data is coming from a serial mouse, in this case a serial ballpoint mouse. Disabling the mouse restores operation, and I can once more switch between the two Trimble programs ok, but online comments suggest that a permanent fix for this problem, which has been around for years, seems to be far more elusive under Win7 than with previous versions. Although I'm using a USB to serial converter, as this Win7 laptop has no actual serial ports, previous experience with the WinXP rackmount kit I normally use, where I have fixed it permanently, suggests the problem is just as likely to occur with proper serial ports. Just checked Lady Heather and she's also running fine under Win7 using the same setup. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 21/04/2013 03:49:40 GMT Daylight Time, w1...@earthlink.net writes: Will T-Bolt Mon work in Windows 7 ? Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
Hi Dick, As far as I know this will find the current version of Lady Heather, it works fine under XP on a P4 using a native serial port and, as per comment earlier, also under Win7 on a dual core laptop with a USB to serial converter http://www.ke5fx.com/heather/readme.htm I wonder if you problem on the 486 laptop was a display resolution issue? I swore by XP for years and still use it, hated Vista and first thought Win7 was just as bad, but soon learned otherwise. No operating system is perfect, no Microsoft operating system particularly so, but Win7 is pretty good, despite my earlier comments:-), and my preferred Windows system right now as long as the machine is up to it. Not sure I'd want to run it on a 486 laptop though, on the older laptops and luggable I use for equipment interfacing, even those using pentiums, if running Windows I tend to stick with Win98SE, or sometimes Win2K. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 21/04/2013 15:42:49 GMT Daylight Time, w1...@earthlink.net writes: I guess I'll forgo the pleasures of WIN7 and stick with my XP Laptop. Maybe some day it will different. BTW, I tried a Beta version of Lady Heather, when I try to expand to full screen, the program aborts. This is on a 486 Laptop I have. Is there a working version somewhere ?? Thanks for all the replies, 73, Dick, W1KSZ On 4/21/2013 4:19 AM, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Dick I've tried it via a Prolific USB to serial adapter, running as COM4, and as far as I can tell, the answer is yes---ish:-) Both TboltMon version 2.60 and Trimble GPS monitor 1.60, seem to be ok monitoring a Thunderbolt under Win7 Ultimate 32 bit, until Windows pulls its old trick and decides the data is coming from a serial mouse, in this case a serial ballpoint mouse. Disabling the mouse restores operation, and I can once more switch between the two Trimble programs ok, but online comments suggest that a permanent fix for this problem, which has been around for years, seems to be far more elusive under Win7 than with previous versions. Although I'm using a USB to serial converter, as this Win7 laptop has no actual serial ports, previous experience with the WinXP rackmount kit I normally use, where I have fixed it permanently, suggests the problem is just as likely to occur with proper serial ports. Just checked Lady Heather and she's also running fine under Win7 using the same setup. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 21/04/2013 03:49:40 GMT Daylight Time, w1...@earthlink.net writes: Will T-Bolt Mon work in Windows 7 ? Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
LH will run even under Linux or Macs just fine if you run a Win XP image inside VMware. I'm pretty sure VMware runs on Win 7 or Win 8.So you can always continue to use the Old Win XP even on newer and newer computers. These is a fre version of VMware or you can try Oracle's Virtual Box. Another advantage of VMware is that it makes it very easy to export the Win XP console display to any computer with a web browser A platform neutral version of LH would be nice but who has the time for that, especially when you can virtualize Win XP. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
LH will run fine under linux if you use the Wine applications interface. Nothing microsoft or VMWare is required at all. -Chuck Harris Chris Albertson wrote: LH will run even under Linux or Macs just fine if you run a Win XP image inside VMware. I'm pretty sure VMware runs on Win 7 or Win 8.So you can always continue to use the Old Win XP even on newer and newer computers. These is a fre version of VMware or you can try Oracle's Virtual Box. Another advantage of VMware is that it makes it very easy to export the Win XP console display to any computer with a web browser A platform neutral version of LH would be nice but who has the time for that, especially when you can virtualize Win XP. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
On 04/21/2013 08:28 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: LH will run even under Linux or Macs just fine if you run a Win XP image inside VMware. I'm pretty sure VMware runs on Win 7 or Win 8.So you can always continue to use the Old Win XP even on newer and newer computers. These is a fre version of VMware or you can try Oracle's Virtual Box. Another advantage of VMware is that it makes it very easy to export the Win XP console display to any computer with a web browser A platform neutral version of LH would be nice but who has the time for that, especially when you can virtualize Win XP. Lady Heather runs fine under Linux Wine. The backslashes in the desktop command line need to be removed. The advantage of Wine is that no copy of Windows is required. The first thing I do to test a new build of Wine is to install LH. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc The High Reliability Software 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 503-614-0430 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
Yes. Wine works. But wine is not help to this guy who wants to run under Win 8. On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: LH will run fine under linux if you use the Wine applications interface. Nothing microsoft or VMWare is required at all. -Chuck Harris Chris Albertson wrote: LH will run even under Linux or Macs just fine if you run a Win XP image inside VMware. I'm pretty sure VMware runs on Win 7 or Win 8.So you can always continue to use the Old Win XP even on newer and newer computers. These is a fre version of VMware or you can try Oracle's Virtual Box. Another advantage of VMware is that it makes it very easy to export the Win XP console display to any computer with a web browser A platform neutral version of LH would be nice but who has the time for that, especially when you can virtualize Win XP. __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
Yes. Wine works. But it is no help to this guy who wants to run under Win 8. On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: LH will run fine under linux if you use the Wine applications interface. Nothing microsoft or VMWare is required at all. -Chuck Harris Chris Albertson wrote: LH will run even under Linux or Macs just fine if you run a Win XP image inside VMware. I'm pretty sure VMware runs on Win 7 or Win 8.So you can always continue to use the Old Win XP even on newer and newer computers. These is a fre version of VMware or you can try Oracle's Virtual Box. Another advantage of VMware is that it makes it very easy to export the Win XP console display to any computer with a web browser A platform neutral version of LH would be nice but who has the time for that, especially when you can virtualize Win XP. __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
I guess I'll forgo the pleasures of WIN7 and stick with my XP Laptop. Maybe some day it will different. It'll work fine under Window 7 and 8 (I use Windows 7 x64 to develop, while my LH monitor is an older laptop with Win2K.) BTW, I tried a Beta version of Lady Heather, when I try to expand to full screen, the program aborts. This is on a 486 Laptop I have. Is there a working version somewhere ?? You're trying to use a fullscreen mode that your video driver doesn't support. On a 486 laptop I doubt anything but the very lowest resolution options will work. You may not even have DirectDraw support on there at all. Time to upgrade, if not. -- john, KE5FX Miles Design LLC ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
BTW, a note to Mark Stephens -- thanks for your email on the LH test server problem. I somehow managed to pull the serial cable out of the port, but it's back up now. Your ISP is using the SORBS blacklist to block email from Comcast, the largest US cable ISP, so I couldn't reply directly. -- john, KE5FX Miles Design LLC -Original Message- From: John Miles [mailto:jmi...@pop.net] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 12:14 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: RE: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7 I guess I'll forgo the pleasures of WIN7 and stick with my XP Laptop. Maybe some day it will different. It'll work fine under Window 7 and 8 (I use Windows 7 x64 to develop, while my LH monitor is an older laptop with Win2K.) BTW, I tried a Beta version of Lady Heather, when I try to expand to full screen, the program aborts. This is on a 486 Laptop I have. Is there a working version somewhere ?? You're trying to use a fullscreen mode that your video driver doesn't support. On a 486 laptop I doubt anything but the very lowest resolution options will work. You may not even have DirectDraw support on there at all. Time to upgrade, if not. -- john, KE5FX Miles Design LLC ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt Mon and Windows 7
An upgrade is out of the question, I use the 486 for radio programming and replacing it just to see how L-H performs is not in the picture. T-Bolt Mon does just fine for what I need, so I'll just stick with it. Thanks for the reply, 73, Dick, W1KSZ On 4/21/2013 12:14 PM, John Miles wrote: I guess I'll forgo the pleasures of WIN7 and stick with my XP Laptop. Maybe some day it will different. It'll work fine under Window 7 and 8 (I use Windows 7 x64 to develop, while my LH monitor is an older laptop with Win2K.) BTW, I tried a Beta version of Lady Heather, when I try to expand to full screen, the program aborts. This is on a 486 Laptop I have. Is there a working version somewhere ?? You're trying to use a fullscreen mode that your video driver doesn't support. On a 486 laptop I doubt anything but the very lowest resolution options will work. You may not even have DirectDraw support on there at all. Time to upgrade, if not. -- john, KE5FX Miles Design LLC ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
