Re: [time-nuts] ZED F9T first look

2019-03-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi

Not to surprisingly: the same set of tests on the F9P give pretty much 
identical results. He ran
a bunch of navigation tests. Not at all surprising. It wouldbe nice if 
*somebody* could get that 
board and compare it to a Cs …. maybe also check it out against a popular piece 
of software 
as well ….hmmm….

Things may be moving along ( = getting better) as far as sawtooth correction of 
the F9P PPS 
output.  If something becomes available to look at there should be a pretty 
good way to check 
it out. 

Another firmware update for the F9P came out in the last week or two. No big or 
really useful 
improvements. It does appear that the use of the EXT-INT pin as a “measure a 
pps” (to within
8 ns ….yuck …) has vanished. Not clear at all if that change is temporary or 
permanent. 

The Digikey C099-F9P kit from uBlox does seem to do all it is supposed to. The 
puck antenna
that comes with it is nothing fancy, but it does work. The $80 eBay antennas do 
a better job. It 
the kits ever come back into stock, they are a better deal than the Sparkfun 
boards. 

Bob

> On Mar 3, 2019, at 6:55 PM, Chris Burford  wrote:
> 
> For those that are interested in the soon to be released ZED-F9T receiver 
> here is a quick write up on the RTLExplorer blog:
> 
> https://rtklibexplorer.wordpress.com/
> 
> ___
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
> To unsubscribe, go to 
> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
> and follow the instructions there.


___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
and follow the instructions there.


Re: [time-nuts] ZED F9T first look

2019-03-03 Thread Michael Wouters
Fwiw, I have been evaluating the F9P for post-processed time transfer
(code-based) and it's looking significantly better than the NEOM8T. Tdev is
about 3 times better, mainly due to a reduction in the tdev of the
sawtooth-corrected pps. Zero baseline performance is getting close to that
of a top of the line time-transfer receiver for code-based transfer.

Cheers
Michael



On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 1:30 pm, Chris Burford 
wrote:

> For those that are interested in the soon to be released ZED-F9T receiver
> here is a quick write up on the RTLExplorer blog:
>
> https://rtklibexplorer.wordpress.com/
>
> ___
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
> To unsubscribe, go to
> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
> and follow the instructions there.
>
___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
and follow the instructions there.


[time-nuts] ZED F9T first look

2019-03-03 Thread Chris Burford
For those that are interested in the soon to be released ZED-F9T receiver here 
is a quick write up on the RTLExplorer blog:

https://rtklibexplorer.wordpress.com/

___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
and follow the instructions there.


[time-nuts] GPSDO Educational Tool

2019-03-03 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I was doing a set of measurements and realized I'd come up with 
everything you need to understand about GPSDO in one ADEV plot. :-)  I 
thought I'd pass it along.


This shows a sawtooth-corrected GPS PPS and two GPSDOs -- one quite good 
(Z3805), and the other quite awful (u-Blox M8F VCTCXO).


You can see that the quality of the crystal oscillator determines what 
the control loop time constant should be -- the better the oscillator, 
the longer the time constant.  As different as their performance is, 
both these units have their constants pretty well chosen.


John

___
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to 
http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com
and follow the instructions there.