Re: [time-nuts] Are there any company selling refurbished/reconditioned Cesium tubes?

2019-06-28 Thread paul swed
Taka thats exactly why in general we time nuts get the old sort of working
equipment.
We are on the tail end of life.
Cesium tubes can not be refurbished economically as discussed many times on
time nuts.
Search the archives quite good reading.
When a tube goes you have to find another system and save the old for spare
parts for your newer unit.
Sorry to say this. This is also why I do not run my cesiums all of the
time. Just as needed.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 5:00 PM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

> I have a Datum FTS 4040A.  I believe the tube is original but it is still
> locking and staying in lock just fine.  I don't know for how long.  In an
> event where tube goes soft/dead, replacing it with factory new replacement
> part is out of question for cost.  Are there any refurbished tubes
> available from anyone?
>
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> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya
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Re: [time-nuts] Are there any company selling refurbished/reconditioned Cesium tubes?

2019-06-28 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi

You will see used tubes for sale from time to time. That’s about the only 
“cheap” way to
re-tube your dead Cs standard. It’s very much a gamble any time you buy one. 
There
is no guarantee you are getting anything better than what you already have. 

There is nobody out there doing “real” rebuilding of Cs tubes. The market is 
too small and 
the investment way too large. They are very complex gizmos. Once they get to 
end of life they
are pretty much entirely polluted with Cs all over everything. Cleaning, 
re-aligning, re-filling, and
sealing up one would not be easy. 

Since the “entire world” of US Cs manufacturing has imploded into a single 
plant, it would also
seem that there really isn’t a very big market for new Cs standards either ….. 
If there is somebody
else out there making a whole bunch of them, they are hiding it pretty well.

Bob



> On Jun 28, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a Datum FTS 4040A.  I believe the tube is original but it is still 
> locking and staying in lock just fine.  I don't know for how long.  In an 
> event where tube goes soft/dead, replacing it with factory new replacement 
> part is out of question for cost.  Are there any refurbished tubes available 
> from anyone?
> 
> --- 
> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya
> I'm stuck in a wormhole  Hello, worms!
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Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A going into Holdover

2019-06-28 Thread Martin VE3OAT

Art Sepin wrote :
> Constant operation of some VP products caused loss of
> satellite signal strength and eventually, loss of lock
> due to crystal drift.

So, one "solution" might be to shut it down and start it up again?

Haven't had this happen with my Z3801, yet, but guess I should expect 
it if I let it run long enough.


... Martin   VE3OAt


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[time-nuts] PTTI 2020 Keynote

2019-06-28 Thread Steven Sommars
FYI

https://www.ion.org/ptti/call-for-abstracts.cfm

PTTI Keynote Address
"Atomic Timekeeping as a Hobby"
Tom Van Baak, Leapsecond.com
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[time-nuts] Are there any company selling refurbished/reconditioned Cesium tubes?

2019-06-28 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
I have a Datum FTS 4040A.  I believe the tube is original but it is still 
locking and staying in lock just fine.  I don't know for how long.  In an event 
where tube goes soft/dead, replacing it with factory new replacement part is 
out of question for cost.  Are there any refurbished tubes available from 
anyone?

--- 
(Mr.) Taka Kamiya
I'm stuck in a wormhole  Hello, worms!
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