Re: [time-nuts] Chuck Little (of HP Cesium fame) just passed away
My wife (Laura Cline) worked for Chuck for a time at HP. Jeremy Nichols On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 3:05 PM Richard (Rick) Karlquist < rich...@karlquist.com> wrote: > Hugh Rice posted a very nice write up on Chuck Little > earlier this year on this reflector. I just heard > about his passing. He started work at HP in 1956! > > Rick Karlquist > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > -- Jeremy Nichols Sent from my iPad 6. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Chuck Little (of HP Cesium fame) just passed away
Hugh Rice posted a very nice write up on Chuck Little earlier this year on this reflector. I just heard about his passing. He started work at HP in 1956! Rick Karlquist ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Are there any company selling refurbished/reconditioned Cesium tubes?
Bob, thanks for the info. I will immerse myself in the archives. regards, glen. VK1XX / AI6UM On 1/07/2019 11:15 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi There are a lot of posts back in the archives about various things on Cs standards. Beam current is probably the best way to see ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Are there any company selling refurbished/reconditioned Cesium tubes?
Hi I don’t have a Datum, my Cs standards are both HP’s. On the HP’s there is a front panel meter that will let you know what’s going on. I believe the Datum’s have a serial port and some sort of commands to get them to spit out what’s going on. Bob > On Jul 1, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts > wrote: > > I bought it from a local seller for $600. He was selling "untested". I went > there personally to make sure it locks. I still don't know how much is left > though. As Tom said, I'll just enjoy it while it works. There is no way > I'll buy this kind of thing with that kind of price from eBay. Too scary and > the loss is too high. (and remedy is often impossible) > > There is no provision to measure beam current. I also have no knowledge of > what it should be. Can you possibly instruct me? > > --- > (Mr.) Taka Kamiya > I'm stuck in a wormhole Hello, worms! > >On Monday, July 1, 2019, 9:35:49 AM EDT, Bob kb8tq wrote: > > Hi > > There are a lot of posts back in the archives about various things on Cs > standards. > > Beam current is probably the best way to see “how much is left”. On a high > performance > tube, it drops pretty fast at end of life. That makes is a bit of an iffy > measure there. If the unit has been > in storage for a while, it may take a week to pump down to even get working > ….. (and see the beam > current). > > Most Cs standards you see for sale on eBay are listed as “parts only”. They > may work, they may not work. > The price is likely to be in the $1,000 to $3,000 range delivered. As soon as > one gets listed as “working” the > price goes through the roof ( like 5x to 10X). Since there is no test for > “how much is left”, I’m not sure that is > a good price to pay. > > So your choice is to pay a silly price on one that may last a couple months ( > or may go on for years) or > to pay a low price for who knows what. On the one with the silly price, you > might be able to get some info. > On the reasonable price units, the seller is probably not going to do much. > > From time to time, they show up here on the list. In that case the seller > likely knows a bit more about > the unit than the typical eBay listing. Even so, there are no guarantees. A > unit that was working very > well on the seller’s bench may run out of steam a few months later. > > Bob > >> On Jun 30, 2019, at 6:20 PM, Glen English VK1XX >> wrote: >> >> Bob, are there any URLs you can point to, or provide advice on, if >> inspecting a Cesium for sale, is there an hour counter, or other metrics >> that can be measured in the tube department ? (I am familiar with TWTs, >> Klystrons etc so the HV doesnt bother me) in order to ascertain the level >> of life left ? >> >> that is, apart from turning it on and waiting a while and measuring ADEV for >> a week on the sellers premises. >> >> glen >> >> >> On 1/07/2019 7:09 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Based on several replacements on a “high performance” 5071 …. 6 to 7 years >>> of 24/7/365 seems to >>> be about the point things start to get flakey. Maybe not dead, but crazy >>> enough that it lets you know >>> it needs a new tube ( = ADEV is not even close to what it should be ..). >>> >>> Cost several years back for the swap out was right at $40K. The process >>> included hazmat shipping >>> silly nonsense. That part delayed the process by almost 2 months. >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Are there any company selling refurbished/reconditioned Cesium tubes?
I bought it from a local seller for $600. He was selling "untested". I went there personally to make sure it locks. I still don't know how much is left though. As Tom said, I'll just enjoy it while it works. There is no way I'll buy this kind of thing with that kind of price from eBay. Too scary and the loss is too high. (and remedy is often impossible) There is no provision to measure beam current. I also have no knowledge of what it should be. Can you possibly instruct me? --- (Mr.) Taka Kamiya I'm stuck in a wormhole Hello, worms! On Monday, July 1, 2019, 9:35:49 AM EDT, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi There are a lot of posts back in the archives about various things on Cs standards. Beam current is probably the best way to see “how much is left”. On a high performance tube, it drops pretty fast at end of life. That makes is a bit of an iffy measure there. If the unit has been in storage for a while, it may take a week to pump down to even get working ….. (and see the beam current). Most Cs standards you see for sale on eBay are listed as “parts only”. They may work, they may not work. The price is likely to be in the $1,000 to $3,000 range delivered. As soon as one gets listed as “working” the price goes through the roof ( like 5x to 10X). Since there is no test for “how much is left”, I’m not sure that is a good price to pay. So your choice is to pay a silly price on one that may last a couple months ( or may go on for years) or to pay a low price for who knows what. On the one with the silly price, you might be able to get some info. On the reasonable price units, the seller is probably not going to do much. From time to time, they show up here on the list. In that case the seller likely knows a bit more about the unit than the typical eBay listing. Even so, there are no guarantees. A unit that was working very well on the seller’s bench may run out of steam a few months later. Bob > On Jun 30, 2019, at 6:20 PM, Glen English VK1XX > wrote: > > Bob, are there any URLs you can point to, or provide advice on, if inspecting > a Cesium for sale, is there an hour counter, or other metrics that can be > measured in the tube department ? (I am familiar with TWTs, Klystrons etc so > the HV doesnt bother me) in order to ascertain the level of life left ? > > that is, apart from turning it on and waiting a while and measuring ADEV for > a week on the sellers premises. > > glen > > > On 1/07/2019 7:09 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> Hi >> >> Based on several replacements on a “high performance” 5071 …. 6 to 7 years >> of 24/7/365 seems to >> be about the point things start to get flakey. Maybe not dead, but crazy >> enough that it lets you know >> it needs a new tube ( = ADEV is not even close to what it should be ..). >> >> Cost several years back for the swap out was right at $40K. The process >> included hazmat shipping >> silly nonsense. That part delayed the process by almost 2 months. >> >> Bob >> > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Are there any company selling refurbished/reconditioned Cesium tubes?
Hi There are a lot of posts back in the archives about various things on Cs standards. Beam current is probably the best way to see “how much is left”. On a high performance tube, it drops pretty fast at end of life. That makes is a bit of an iffy measure there. If the unit has been in storage for a while, it may take a week to pump down to even get working ….. (and see the beam current). Most Cs standards you see for sale on eBay are listed as “parts only”. They may work, they may not work. The price is likely to be in the $1,000 to $3,000 range delivered. As soon as one gets listed as “working” the price goes through the roof ( like 5x to 10X). Since there is no test for “how much is left”, I’m not sure that is a good price to pay. So your choice is to pay a silly price on one that may last a couple months ( or may go on for years) or to pay a low price for who knows what. On the one with the silly price, you might be able to get some info. On the reasonable price units, the seller is probably not going to do much. From time to time, they show up here on the list. In that case the seller likely knows a bit more about the unit than the typical eBay listing. Even so, there are no guarantees. A unit that was working very well on the seller’s bench may run out of steam a few months later. Bob > On Jun 30, 2019, at 6:20 PM, Glen English VK1XX > wrote: > > Bob, are there any URLs you can point to, or provide advice on, if inspecting > a Cesium for sale, is there an hour counter, or other metrics that can be > measured in the tube department ? (I am familiar with TWTs, Klystrons etc so > the HV doesnt bother me) in order to ascertain the level of life left ? > > that is, apart from turning it on and waiting a while and measuring ADEV for > a week on the sellers premises. > > glen > > > On 1/07/2019 7:09 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> Hi >> >> Based on several replacements on a “high performance” 5071 …. 6 to 7 years >> of 24/7/365 seems to >> be about the point things start to get flakey. Maybe not dead, but crazy >> enough that it lets you know >> it needs a new tube ( = ADEV is not even close to what it should be ..). >> >> Cost several years back for the swap out was right at $40K. The process >> included hazmat shipping >> silly nonsense. That part delayed the process by almost 2 months. >> >> Bob >> > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
