[time-nuts] BG7TBL FA1 frequency analyzer

2019-09-02 Thread Mark Sims
Yes, it should work with Timelab, Stable32, etc.  It streams a series of 
frequency measurements every second out the USB port (it uses a FTDI chip for 
the USB interface).  The data is of the format:
"   F:0123456789.123456789"  (without the quotes)

Measurements with a PLL unlock error are preceded by an '*'.   I've only seen 
unlocks when changing the input freq from say 1 MHz to 10 MHz.  I get two 
flagged measurements each time the freq changed.   I don't know how small a 
freq change can cause an unlock.

I don't know if Timelab can directly take the output data stream because of the 
leading "F:".  You may need to capture data to a file and edit off the "   F:"

I also don't know how well it would work for phase noise measurements... it 
would be no where as good as a TimePod.   I am doing some tests to see how well 
it compares to a TAPR TICC.

BTW,  my FA1 seems to have a frequency measurement bias of around -0.0002 Hz on 
a 10 MHz signal.  Also, I don't see any temperature related variation in the 
measurements... air conditioning was swinging the room temp over a 2 degree C 
span and I saw no traces of it in the results.   
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Re: [time-nuts] BG7TBL FA1 frequency analyzer

2019-09-02 Thread Christoph Kopetzky

Hi Mark,

interesting post.
So is the FA1 compatible with the TimeLab or Stable32 software?
And could I do phase noise measurements with it like the TimePod?


Chris

Am 30.08.2019 um 22:57 schrieb Mark Sims:

(Hopefully this is not a duplicate post...  hotmail has been having issues)

The FA1 is a small, USB powered frequency counter.   You supply it with a 10 
MHz reference and an input frequency of 1 .. 80 MHz.   It outputs a text string 
of the measured frequency every second.  They cost around $80 .. $120.

Apparently there is a PLL inside... the text string has a "PLL unlock" flag.  
There is no info on how it works and I have not opened mine up.

I did a simple noise test on one where the input and ref clocks were from a 
Tbolt.  It looks like the measurement noise is around +/- 0.0002 Hz.

Lady Heather can now read it.  Attached is a screen capture of the noise test.

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