Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
+1 for powerpole connectors and purchasing a proper ratcheting crimper for the powerpoles. AND being willing to discard marginal crimps. Content by Scott Typos by Siri On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Bill Dailey wrote: There are locks you can get. I saw them on Mountain West today. Bill Dailey Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. - Gary Vaynerchuk Don’t be easy to understand, Be impossible to misunderstand - Steve Sims > On Oct 4, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts > wrote: > > I used to use power pole, too but they don't lock firmly enough for my > liking. So I don't use them anymore. It would be perfect if there is an > option to add positive locking mechanism of some kind. > > --- > (Mr.) Taka Kamiya > KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG > > > On Friday, October 4, 2019, 4:06:50 PM EDT, Didier Juges > wrote: > > That's what I do too. I do use Power Pole for my ham stuff that draws high > current but for all the <2A 12V stuff the 5.1mm barrel connector with > positive center is hard to beat because I have so many power sources and > equipment already wired for it. I am not ready to rewire all the off the > shelf equipment that came with one of those. > > Power Pole are convenient for batteries though because you can use the > connector to charge the battery or use it as a source. > > Didier KO4BB > >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 2:01 PM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts < >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >> >> Mine is very simple >> USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip for >> 24V >> None of them are high power devices. >> >> --- >> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya >> KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG >> >> >>On Friday, October 4, 2019, 2:03:55 AM EDT, Bill Dailey < >> docdai...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can >> offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), >> Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use >> something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I am >> hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. >> >> Any insights? >> >> Bill >> >> Bill Dailey >> >> Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. >> - Gary Vaynerchuk >> >> Don’t be easy to understand, >> Be impossible to misunderstand >> - Steve Sims >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
Not a perfect solution, but for semi-permanent connections you can run a small tie-wrap lengthwise so the ends pass through the space between where the wires on each end split and the body. Cinch it tight and the connectors won't come apart without cutting the tie wrap. On Oct 4, 2019, 7:04 PM, at 7:04 PM, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts wrote: >I used to use power pole, too but they don't lock firmly enough for my >liking. So I don't use them anymore. It would be perfect if there is >an option to add positive locking mechanism of some kind. > >--- >(Mr.) Taka Kamiya >KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG > > >On Friday, October 4, 2019, 4:06:50 PM EDT, Didier Juges > wrote: > >That's what I do too. I do use Power Pole for my ham stuff that draws >high >current but for all the <2A 12V stuff the 5.1mm barrel connector with >positive center is hard to beat because I have so many power sources >and >equipment already wired for it. I am not ready to rewire all the off >the >shelf equipment that came with one of those. > >Power Pole are convenient for batteries though because you can use the >connector to charge the battery or use it as a source. > >Didier KO4BB > >On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 2:01 PM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts < >time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > >> Mine is very simple >> USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip >for >> 24V >> None of them are high power devices. >> >> --- >> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya >> KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG >> >> >> On Friday, October 4, 2019, 2:03:55 AM EDT, Bill Dailey < >> docdai...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can >> offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers >(5v), >> Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. >anyone use >> something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I >am >> hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. >> >> Any insights? >> >> Bill >> >> Bill Dailey >> >> Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long >game. >> - Gary Vaynerchuk >> >> Don’t be easy to understand, >> Be impossible to misunderstand >> - Steve Sims >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> >___ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to >http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >and follow the instructions there. > >___ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to >http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
Many ways to lock them Insert a small 3”? tie wrap from one hole to the other, or use those twist ties that usb and power cables ship with, or use the locking mechanisms from WMR, and/or ... Good luck whatever you decide is right for your situation Scott Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts > wrote: > > I used to use power pole, too but they don't lock firmly enough for my > liking. So I don't use them anymore. It would be perfect if there is an > option to add positive locking mechanism of some kind. > > --- > (Mr.) Taka Kamiya > KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG > > >On Friday, October 4, 2019, 4:06:50 PM EDT, Didier Juges > wrote: > > That's what I do too. I do use Power Pole for my ham stuff that draws high > current but for all the <2A 12V stuff the 5.1mm barrel connector with > positive center is hard to beat because I have so many power sources and > equipment already wired for it. I am not ready to rewire all the off the > shelf equipment that came with one of those. > > Power Pole are convenient for batteries though because you can use the > connector to charge the battery or use it as a source. > > Didier KO4BB > >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 2:01 PM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts < >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >> >> Mine is very simple >> USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip for >> 24V >> None of them are high power devices. >> >> --- >> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya >> KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG >> >> >> On Friday, October 4, 2019, 2:03:55 AM EDT, Bill Dailey < >> docdai...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can >> offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), >> Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use >> something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I am >> hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. >> >> Any insights? >> >> Bill >> >> Bill Dailey >> >> Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. >> - Gary Vaynerchuk >> >> Don’t be easy to understand, >> Be impossible to misunderstand >> - Steve Sims >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
It works, but note that folding the conductor over to fill the crimp fails NASA's workmanship standards. I'd expect that trick with the thicker wire would too. On 04/10/2019 5:07 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: The idea of using a short piece of thicker wire is a good one. Thanks for that! On 10/4/19 3:17 PM, MLewis wrote: With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible connections. I wouldn't think it would be different for anything else, but may go undetected until failure. If you've used the correct size of crimp and used a proper crimping tool, then you've got the proper pressure for a solid reliable connection. If you then solder, the heat expands the crimp lessening the crimp pressure, and when it cools it's no longer at the correct crimp pressure (often the wire will pull right out), and with iffy wicking of solder. The worst of both methods combined in one. Where the wire is too thin for the crimp I have available, I've cut a piece of a correct thickness wire/cable, inserted that into the crimp along with the signal wire/cable, so it's crimped between them. I don't know if that is the best way of handling that, but it's worked for me. On 04/10/2019 11:41 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are a bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 on the three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. It saves much aggravation. But if you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping is a good precaution. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
There are locks you can get. I saw them on Mountain West today. Bill Dailey Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. - Gary Vaynerchuk Don’t be easy to understand, Be impossible to misunderstand - Steve Sims > On Oct 4, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts > wrote: > > I used to use power pole, too but they don't lock firmly enough for my > liking. So I don't use them anymore. It would be perfect if there is an > option to add positive locking mechanism of some kind. > > --- > (Mr.) Taka Kamiya > KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG > > >On Friday, October 4, 2019, 4:06:50 PM EDT, Didier Juges > wrote: > > That's what I do too. I do use Power Pole for my ham stuff that draws high > current but for all the <2A 12V stuff the 5.1mm barrel connector with > positive center is hard to beat because I have so many power sources and > equipment already wired for it. I am not ready to rewire all the off the > shelf equipment that came with one of those. > > Power Pole are convenient for batteries though because you can use the > connector to charge the battery or use it as a source. > > Didier KO4BB > >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 2:01 PM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts < >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >> >> Mine is very simple >> USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip for >> 24V >> None of them are high power devices. >> >> --- >> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya >> KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG >> >> >> On Friday, October 4, 2019, 2:03:55 AM EDT, Bill Dailey < >> docdai...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can >> offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), >> Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use >> something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I am >> hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. >> >> Any insights? >> >> Bill >> >> Bill Dailey >> >> Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. >> - Gary Vaynerchuk >> >> Don’t be easy to understand, >> Be impossible to misunderstand >> - Steve Sims >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
I used to use power pole, too but they don't lock firmly enough for my liking. So I don't use them anymore. It would be perfect if there is an option to add positive locking mechanism of some kind. --- (Mr.) Taka Kamiya KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG On Friday, October 4, 2019, 4:06:50 PM EDT, Didier Juges wrote: That's what I do too. I do use Power Pole for my ham stuff that draws high current but for all the <2A 12V stuff the 5.1mm barrel connector with positive center is hard to beat because I have so many power sources and equipment already wired for it. I am not ready to rewire all the off the shelf equipment that came with one of those. Power Pole are convenient for batteries though because you can use the connector to charge the battery or use it as a source. Didier KO4BB On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 2:01 PM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Mine is very simple > USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip for > 24V > None of them are high power devices. > > --- > (Mr.) Taka Kamiya > KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG > > > On Friday, October 4, 2019, 2:03:55 AM EDT, Bill Dailey < > docdai...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can > offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), > Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use > something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I am > hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. > > Any insights? > > Bill > > Bill Dailey > > Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. > - Gary Vaynerchuk > > Don’t be easy to understand, > Be impossible to misunderstand > - Steve Sims > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
Hi where the wire is too thin for the crimp I actually strip the wire to long and fold it half One reason to crimp is so there is not a hard line for a fracture IE a point for the cable to brake By soldering the joint you actually introduce a potential fracture point It's all my time playing with aircraft and destructive testing Sorry it was suppose to be non destructive testing but things brake at times Paul -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: 04 October 2019 22:08 To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution The idea of using a short piece of thicker wire is a good one. Thanks for that! On 10/4/19 3:17 PM, MLewis wrote: > With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible > connections. I wouldn't think it would be different for anything else, > but may go undetected until failure. If you've used the correct size of > crimp and used a proper crimping tool, then you've got the proper > pressure for a solid reliable connection. If you then solder, the heat > expands the crimp lessening the crimp pressure, and when it cools it's > no longer at the correct crimp pressure (often the wire will pull right > out), and with iffy wicking of solder. The worst of both methods > combined in one. > > Where the wire is too thin for the crimp I have available, I've cut a > piece of a correct thickness wire/cable, inserted that into the crimp > along with the signal wire/cable, so it's crimped between them. I don't > know if that is the best way of handling that, but it's worked for me. > > On 04/10/2019 11:41 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: >> West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are >> a bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 >> on the three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. It saves much >> aggravation. But if you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping >> is a good precaution. >> > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.8048 / Virus Database: 4793/15886 - Release Date: 08/14/18 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
Long ago and far away, I did read that a large(60% or so) of failures in ww2 style equipment was due to wire breakage right at the terminal, that is solder wicking into stranded wire. The very careful wire wrap through holes or around terminals did nothing. Power pole connectors do not have crimped insulation. Spade lug and rings very often do. Strain relief is a must, especially in presence of higher frequecy vibration. These facts are around, just cannot recall where. Don On 2019-10-04 14:41, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <5d979ac0.80...@rogers.com>, MLewis writes: With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible connections. Dabbling in audio-homoepathy are we ? No, don't bother responding unless you have a reference to peer-reviewed scientific documentation for you claim. -- Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL PO Box 404, Frenchtown, MT, 59834 VOX: 406-626-4304 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
Thanks to all. I know what to do now. Appreciated. I am finally getting to the point where I can start playing again. Work and life has been exceptionally busy. I am excited to build a new bench right. Anderson it is, powerwerx and or west mountain and stick to standards. I will search for the industrial usb hub for 5V. Bill Dailey Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. - Gary Vaynerchuk Don’t be easy to understand, Be impossible to misunderstand - Steve Sims > On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:01 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > > The idea of using a short piece of thicker wire is a good one. Thanks > for that! > >> On 10/4/19 3:17 PM, MLewis wrote: >> With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible >> connections. I wouldn't think it would be different for anything else, >> but may go undetected until failure. If you've used the correct size of >> crimp and used a proper crimping tool, then you've got the proper >> pressure for a solid reliable connection. If you then solder, the heat >> expands the crimp lessening the crimp pressure, and when it cools it's >> no longer at the correct crimp pressure (often the wire will pull right >> out), and with iffy wicking of solder. The worst of both methods >> combined in one. >> >> Where the wire is too thin for the crimp I have available, I've cut a >> piece of a correct thickness wire/cable, inserted that into the crimp >> along with the signal wire/cable, so it's crimped between them. I don't >> know if that is the best way of handling that, but it's worked for me. >> >>> On 04/10/2019 11:41 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: >>> West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are >>> a bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 >>> on the three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. It saves much >>> aggravation. But if you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping >>> is a good precaution. >>> >> >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
Wire Ferrules are the best way to use thin wire in a powerpole http://www.ferrulesdirect.com/electrical/NonInsFerr2620.htm On 10/4/2019 5:07 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: The idea of using a short piece of thicker wire is a good one. Thanks for that! On 10/4/19 3:17 PM, MLewis wrote: With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible connections. I wouldn't think it would be different for anything else, but may go undetected until failure. If you've used the correct size of crimp and used a proper crimping tool, then you've got the proper pressure for a solid reliable connection. If you then solder, the heat expands the crimp lessening the crimp pressure, and when it cools it's no longer at the correct crimp pressure (often the wire will pull right out), and with iffy wicking of solder. The worst of both methods combined in one. Where the wire is too thin for the crimp I have available, I've cut a piece of a correct thickness wire/cable, inserted that into the crimp along with the signal wire/cable, so it's crimped between them. I don't know if that is the best way of handling that, but it's worked for me. On 04/10/2019 11:41 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are a bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 on the three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. It saves much aggravation. But if you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping is a good precaution. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
The idea of using a short piece of thicker wire is a good one. Thanks for that! On 10/4/19 3:17 PM, MLewis wrote: > With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible > connections. I wouldn't think it would be different for anything else, > but may go undetected until failure. If you've used the correct size of > crimp and used a proper crimping tool, then you've got the proper > pressure for a solid reliable connection. If you then solder, the heat > expands the crimp lessening the crimp pressure, and when it cools it's > no longer at the correct crimp pressure (often the wire will pull right > out), and with iffy wicking of solder. The worst of both methods > combined in one. > > Where the wire is too thin for the crimp I have available, I've cut a > piece of a correct thickness wire/cable, inserted that into the crimp > along with the signal wire/cable, so it's crimped between them. I don't > know if that is the best way of handling that, but it's worked for me. > > On 04/10/2019 11:41 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: >> West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are >> a bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 >> on the three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. It saves much >> aggravation. But if you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping >> is a good precaution. >> > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
Perhaps piling on, but be sure to adopt the “ARES standard” (same as rig runner) for your 12 v power poles ( so you don’t blow up your or their equipment, when a friend visits S Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Didier Juges wrote: > > That's what I do too. I do use Power Pole for my ham stuff that draws high > current but for all the <2A 12V stuff the 5.1mm barrel connector with > positive center is hard to beat because I have so many power sources and > equipment already wired for it. I am not ready to rewire all the off the > shelf equipment that came with one of those. > > Power Pole are convenient for batteries though because you can use the > connector to charge the battery or use it as a source. > > Didier KO4BB > >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 2:01 PM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts < >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >> >> Mine is very simple >> USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip for >> 24V >> None of them are high power devices. >> >> --- >> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya >> KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG >> >> >>On Friday, October 4, 2019, 2:03:55 AM EDT, Bill Dailey < >> docdai...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can >> offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), >> Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use >> something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I am >> hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. >> >> Any insights? >> >> Bill >> >> Bill Dailey >> >> Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. >> - Gary Vaynerchuk >> >> Don’t be easy to understand, >> Be impossible to misunderstand >> - Steve Sims >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
On 10/4/19 12:17 PM, MLewis wrote: With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible connections. I wouldn't think it would be different for anything else, but may go undetected until failure. If you've used the correct size of crimp and used a proper crimping tool, then you've got the proper pressure for a solid reliable connection. If you then solder, the heat expands the crimp lessening the crimp pressure, and when it cools it's no longer at the correct crimp pressure (often the wire will pull right out), and with iffy wicking of solder. The worst of both methods combined in one. Where the wire is too thin for the crimp I have available, I've cut a piece of a correct thickness wire/cable, inserted that into the crimp along with the signal wire/cable, so it's crimped between them. I don't know if that is the best way of handling that, but it's worked for me. I agree on not soldering - soldering makes for a stress concentration at the end of the strands. With a crimped connector, wiggling the wire bends all the strands differently. And the solder does change the "springyness" of the crimping. With the right crimp tool, and the willingness to throw away marginal crimps. If you were to pot the wire into the connector, that would probably solve the brittle solder problem. But that's yet another assembly step to squirt the epoxy in. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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On 10/4/19 8:41 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are a bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 on the three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. +++10 -- the right crimping tool is a godsend. There's also a little tool that helps remove the contact. https://powerwerx.com/ is another source that's done well for me.. Lots of inexpensive distribution stuff without fancyness (basically big clusters of connectors). They also have watt/current/voltage meters that plug-in inline that handle a wide range of voltages (5-60V). however "Only current from source to load can be measured. Drawing current in reverse will cause damage to the meter." They also sell the west mountain gear. It saves much aggravation. But if you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping is a good precaution. On Oct 4, 2019, 10:03 AM, at 10:03 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: Yes. I am using 12v agm. Good wmr for the connectors also? Bill Dailey Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. - Gary Vaynerchuk Don’t be easy to understand, Be impossible to misunderstand - Steve Sims On Oct 4, 2019, at 7:17 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: I use lots and lots of Anderson PowerPoles and (mostly) West Mountain Radio distribution units. I have different color codes for different voltages -- red/black for 12v, orange/black for 24v, green/black for 5v, etc. Primary 12 and 24 volt sources are big AGM batteries across float chargers. On Oct 4, 2019, 2:03 AM, at 2:03 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I am hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. Any insights? Bill Bill Dailey Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. - Gary Vaynerchuk Don’t be easy to understand, Be impossible to misunderstand - Steve Sims ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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In message <5d979ac0.80...@rogers.com>, MLewis writes: >With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible >connections. Dabbling in audio-homoepathy are we ? No, don't bother responding unless you have a reference to peer-reviewed scientific documentation for you claim. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible connections. I wouldn't think it would be different for anything else, but may go undetected until failure. If you've used the correct size of crimp and used a proper crimping tool, then you've got the proper pressure for a solid reliable connection. If you then solder, the heat expands the crimp lessening the crimp pressure, and when it cools it's no longer at the correct crimp pressure (often the wire will pull right out), and with iffy wicking of solder. The worst of both methods combined in one. Where the wire is too thin for the crimp I have available, I've cut a piece of a correct thickness wire/cable, inserted that into the crimp along with the signal wire/cable, so it's crimped between them. I don't know if that is the best way of handling that, but it's worked for me. On 04/10/2019 11:41 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are a bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 on the three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. It saves much aggravation. But if you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping is a good precaution. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 2:01 PM John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: > > West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are a > bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 on the > three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. It saves much aggravation. But if > you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping is a good precaution. Our club has this tool and I approve this message! Interestingly, there is a subset of the model railroading community that builds modular layouts. The N-scale group (N-Trak) has adopted Power-Poles as their standard after decades of using Cinch connectors. PowerPoles have their limits but in these applications (time nuttery, amateur radio, model railroads) they are pretty darn convenient. And a crimper makes it more so. I also have the little pick tool that Anderson sells that makes it easy to "convince" reluctant contacts to seat properly in the plastic shell and make it easier to remove the contact if you need to. Saves wear on my "jewelers screwdrivers". -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train! ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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In message <119811778.3750152.1570204871...@mail.yahoo.com>, Taka Kamiya via ti
me-nuts writes:
>Mine is very simple
>USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip for 24V
>None of them are high power devices.
Yes, I forgot to mention that too:
I have very few 5V devices, but I power them all using USB cables
and an "Industrial[1] USB Hub" which takes 10-30V input power.
As long as you don't plug the hub's upstream ("B") port into a
computer the noise-level seems fine.
Poul-Henning
[1] = Metal case with mounting holes instead of oddly shaped plastic
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>> But if you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping is a good precaution Good advice. Another way is to put in an extra wire (or fold over the thin wire) so as to “fill up” the power pole before you crimp it. Scott W7SLS > On Oct 4, 2019, at 8:41 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: > > West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are a > bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 on the > three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. It saves much aggravation. But if > you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping is a good precaution. > > On Oct 4, 2019, 10:03 AM, at 10:03 AM, Bill Dailey > wrote: >> Yes. I am using 12v agm. Good wmr for the connectors also? >> >> Bill Dailey >> >> Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long >> game. - Gary Vaynerchuk >> >> Don’t be easy to understand, >> Be impossible to misunderstand >> - Steve Sims >> >>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 7:17 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR >> wrote: >>> >>> I use lots and lots of Anderson PowerPoles and (mostly) West >> Mountain Radio distribution units. I have different color codes for >> different voltages -- red/black for 12v, orange/black for 24v, >> green/black for 5v, etc. Primary 12 and 24 volt sources are big AGM >> batteries across float chargers. >>> On Oct 4, 2019, 2:03 AM, at 2:03 AM, Bill Dailey >> wrote: Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers >> (5v), Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. >> anyone use something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and >> 12v. I am hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for >> plugs. Any insights? Bill Bill Dailey Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. - Gary Vaynerchuk Don’t be easy to understand, Be impossible to misunderstand - Steve Sims ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. >>> ___ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >>> and follow the instructions there. >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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That's what I do too. I do use Power Pole for my ham stuff that draws high current but for all the <2A 12V stuff the 5.1mm barrel connector with positive center is hard to beat because I have so many power sources and equipment already wired for it. I am not ready to rewire all the off the shelf equipment that came with one of those. Power Pole are convenient for batteries though because you can use the connector to charge the battery or use it as a source. Didier KO4BB On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 2:01 PM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Mine is very simple > USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip for > 24V > None of them are high power devices. > > --- > (Mr.) Taka Kamiya > KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG > > > On Friday, October 4, 2019, 2:03:55 AM EDT, Bill Dailey < > docdai...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can > offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), > Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use > something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I am > hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. > > Any insights? > > Bill > > Bill Dailey > > Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. > - Gary Vaynerchuk > > Don’t be easy to understand, > Be impossible to misunderstand > - Steve Sims > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are a bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 on the three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. It saves much aggravation. But if you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping is a good precaution. On Oct 4, 2019, 10:03 AM, at 10:03 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: >Yes. I am using 12v agm. Good wmr for the connectors also? > >Bill Dailey > >Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long >game. - Gary Vaynerchuk > >Don’t be easy to understand, >Be impossible to misunderstand >- Steve Sims > >> On Oct 4, 2019, at 7:17 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR >wrote: >> >> I use lots and lots of Anderson PowerPoles and (mostly) West >Mountain Radio distribution units. I have different color codes for >different voltages -- red/black for 12v, orange/black for 24v, >green/black for 5v, etc. Primary 12 and 24 volt sources are big AGM >batteries across float chargers. >> >>> On Oct 4, 2019, 2:03 AM, at 2:03 AM, Bill Dailey > wrote: >>> Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can >>> offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers >(5v), >>> Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. >anyone >>> use something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and >12v. >>> I am hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for >plugs. >>> >>> >>> Any insights? >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> Bill Dailey >>> >>> Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long >>> game. - Gary Vaynerchuk >>> >>> Don’t be easy to understand, >>> Be impossible to misunderstand >>> - Steve Sims >>> ___ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >>> and follow the instructions there. >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >___ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to >http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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Mine is very simple USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip for 24V None of them are high power devices. --- (Mr.) Taka Kamiya KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG On Friday, October 4, 2019, 2:03:55 AM EDT, Bill Dailey wrote: Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I am hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. Any insights? Bill Bill Dailey Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. - Gary Vaynerchuk Don’t be easy to understand, Be impossible to misunderstand - Steve Sims ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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Yes. I am using 12v agm. Good wmr for the connectors also? Bill Dailey Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. - Gary Vaynerchuk Don’t be easy to understand, Be impossible to misunderstand - Steve Sims > On Oct 4, 2019, at 7:17 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: > > I use lots and lots of Anderson PowerPoles and (mostly) West Mountain Radio > distribution units. I have different color codes for different voltages -- > red/black for 12v, orange/black for 24v, green/black for 5v, etc. Primary 12 > and 24 volt sources are big AGM batteries across float chargers. > >> On Oct 4, 2019, 2:03 AM, at 2:03 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: >> Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can >> offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), >> Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone >> use something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. >> I am hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. >> >> >> Any insights? >> >> Bill >> >> Bill Dailey >> >> Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long >> game. - Gary Vaynerchuk >> >> Don’t be easy to understand, >> Be impossible to misunderstand >> - Steve Sims >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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Anderson Power Poles / West Mountain Radio <— agree. fantastic avail 15A, 30 A, 45A, … 175A, and more Blue Sea Systems marine products are great also example: ammeters with shunt in positive rail My .02 Scott W7SLS > On Oct 4, 2019, at 4:56 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote: > > I want to recommend Anderson Powerpoles for DC distribution too. A trillion > times better than all the incompatible molexes. And those West Mountain Radio > multi fused splitters are exactly what you want for splitters. > > In addition to the WMR splitters, bare PCBs for building up your own are > available too. There are also some nice non-Anderson DC distribution > fuseblocks in the marine and automotive shops. > > Black and red is the ham convention for 12V. If you want to run +5 or -48 > (ex-telco equipment) around, you could adopt a different color convention > and/or Polarizing pins conventions. > > Tim N3QE > >> On Oct 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> >> In message <36676b65-57b2-4b2d-94d6-326385ce5...@gmail.com>, Bill Dailey >> writes >> : >> >> I use http://www.westmountainradio.com/rigrunner.php >> >> >> -- >> Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 >> p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 >> FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe >> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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On 10/3/19 6:58 PM, Bill Dailey wrote: Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I am hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. There's a variety of things out there with PowerPole connectors of varying sophistication. You might check West Mountain Radio or PowerWerx. Or the amateur radio community in general - someone has probably published a dual row PCB design if you want to fab it yourself. there's also power distribution strips that have rows of banana jacks/binding posts with the standard 3/4" spacing to mate with dual banana plugs At work, pretty much everything prototype-like uses stackable double banana plugs, usually with a reverse biased diode across the terminals (so if you plug it in backwards, the power supply current limits or folds back). We use a lot of coax to dual banana adapters (just because nobody makes twisted pair banana jack to plug as an off the shelf item). ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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Hi I am standardising on 4 pin XLR connectors for 12 Volts as used in the TV industry Perhaps you could use the 6 pin for 5 volts I do not recommend the 2 pin as this is for 240 V ac Or the 3 pin as you could take out a microphone I am going to be Using military connectors for 24 V DC and 400 Hz -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann. N8UR Sent: 04 October 2019 12:40 To: David Van Horn via time-nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution I use lots and lots of Anderson PowerPoles and (mostly) West Mountain Radio distribution units. I have different color codes for different voltages -- red/black for 12v, orange/black for 24v, green/black for 5v, etc. Primary 12 and 24 volt sources are big AGM batteries across float chargers. On Oct 4, 2019, 2:03 AM, at 2:03 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: >Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can >offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), >Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdos.. etc. anyone >use something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. >I am hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. > > >Any insights? > >Bill > >Bill Dailey > >Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long >game. - Gary Vaynerchuk > >Dont be easy to understand, >Be impossible to misunderstand >- Steve Sims >___ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to >http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.8048 / Virus Database: 4793/15886 - Release Date: 08/14/18 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
I want to recommend Anderson Powerpoles for DC distribution too. A trillion times better than all the incompatible molexes. And those West Mountain Radio multi fused splitters are exactly what you want for splitters. In addition to the WMR splitters, bare PCBs for building up your own are available too. There are also some nice non-Anderson DC distribution fuseblocks in the marine and automotive shops. Black and red is the ham convention for 12V. If you want to run +5 or -48 (ex-telco equipment) around, you could adopt a different color convention and/or Polarizing pins conventions. Tim N3QE > On Oct 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > In message <36676b65-57b2-4b2d-94d6-326385ce5...@gmail.com>, Bill Dailey > writes > : > > I use http://www.westmountainradio.com/rigrunner.php > > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
I use lots and lots of Anderson PowerPoles and (mostly) West Mountain Radio distribution units. I have different color codes for different voltages -- red/black for 12v, orange/black for 24v, green/black for 5v, etc. Primary 12 and 24 volt sources are big AGM batteries across float chargers. On Oct 4, 2019, 2:03 AM, at 2:03 AM, Bill Dailey wrote: >Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can >offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), >Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone >use something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. >I am hoping for a long COTS pcb with fusing and maybe holes for plugs. > > >Any insights? > >Bill > >Bill Dailey > >Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long >game. - Gary Vaynerchuk > >Don’t be easy to understand, >Be impossible to misunderstand >- Steve Sims >___ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to >http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution
In message <36676b65-57b2-4b2d-94d6-326385ce5...@gmail.com>, Bill Dailey writes : I use http://www.westmountainradio.com/rigrunner.php -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
