Re: [time-nuts] Can a Nixie Tube Operate at 100,000 Hz ?

2019-12-10 Thread paul swed
Greg
I would have replied to you offline. But no real email address just the
time-nuts.
Interesting video on the clock and brings up several questions as to why
LEDs are not suitable.
Always good to see Nixies have a use.
No way for me to communicate with the folks doing the actual work.
But I would believe that the Nixie shutoff can be accelerated with a
resistor to each of the actual numbers. Have been thinking about a diode
and negative supply. But it seems the delay in shutoff is due to the actual
number after shut off not having any channel to drain the charge off.
Not normally an issue for normal use. But this is a very edge case.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:04 AM Gregory Beat via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

> Dalibor Farny explores the Fast Switching of Nixie Tube digits via High
> Speed image capturing.  Photon cameras used in experiment,
> https://photron.com/
> YouTube video
> https://youtu.be/TK3E55fytC0
>
> greg
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Re: [time-nuts] Trimble 57963

2019-12-10 Thread Roger Tilsley
Greetings Robert,

I have one of these and it works very well running on 6 V.  I have been warned 
off low operating voltage OCXOs by an OCXO manufacturer.  This manufacturer 
would not countenance manufacturing OCXOs operating on 5 V.  There is little 
technical information available,  I tried Trimble for info and was told that it 
was designed for a specific customer and that all the information was customer 
confidential - if I had paid a contractor a substantial sum to produce a 
specific design for me, I would not be happy if the manufacturer sent technical 
details to anyone who enquired!  I can therefore understand the policy and it 
does explain the shortage of technical information.

Regards,
Roger T. 

On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:43:23 -0500, Robert DiRosario  wrote:

> I just received an Trimble 57963-D GPSDO with a Trimble 73090 OCXO.
> 
> There is very little information about this on the web.  What voltage 
> does this run on?
> 
> Some information I found online says 6 volts.  The seller says 5.5V.  I 
> got it from ebay / China.
> 
> I did get a breakout board and the 50 pin cable. \
> 
> Thanks
> Robert
> 
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[time-nuts] Trimble 57963

2019-12-10 Thread Robert DiRosario

I just received an Trimble 57963-D GPSDO with a Trimble 73090 OCXO.

There is very little information about this on the web.  What voltage 
does this run on?


Some information I found online says 6 volts.  The seller says 5.5V.  I 
got it from ebay / China.


I did get a breakout board and the 50 pin cable. \

Thanks
Robert


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[time-nuts] Can a Nixie Tube Operate at 100,000 Hz ?

2019-12-10 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
Dalibor Farny explores the Fast Switching of Nixie Tube digits via High Speed 
image capturing.  Photon cameras used in experiment, https://photron.com/
YouTube video
https://youtu.be/TK3E55fytC0

greg

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Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber

2019-12-10 Thread J. Cordaro via time-nuts
 David,
I have used Pontis EMC USB converters and they worked meaning they had good 
radiated immunity and radiated emissions were below CISPR25 levels even in the 
150kHz - 30MHz band.  
hvtechnologies is the US distributor.

My first EMC certification test at low frequencies was a humbling experience 
due to the noise from the switching power supply.  At $7.50 per minute we went 
with stacks of AA batteries in parallel.  
regards,Jay Cordaro


On Friday, December 6, 2019, 03:48:18 PM PST, David Van Horn via time-nuts 
 wrote:  
 
 It's not shielded, and ferrites are pretty useless down here.
I did try, but the ferrites I have did nothing. 

My backup plan arrives supposedly in the next 2 hours

--
David VanHorn
Lead Hardware Engineer

Backcountry Access, Inc.
2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H
Boulder, CO  80301 USA
phone: 303-417-1345  x110
email: david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com 

-Original Message-
From: time-nuts  On Behalf Of Dana Whitlow
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 10:10 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 

Subject: Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber

Even without any funny business with boost converters (or whatever). those 
copper wires make a nice antenna for coupling noise from both ends (PC and USB
accessory) into
the environment inside the chamber.  Unless, of course, the cable is 
well-shielded, which you did not mention.

I suppose it's too late to ask, but did you perhance try adding some clamp-on 
ferrite chokes to the cable?

Dana


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:05 AM David Van Horn via time-nuts < 
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

> This is my backup plan:
> https://industrialcomponent.com/opticis/opm210003.html
>
> The docs are a bit chinglish, but I'm encouraged by the fact that the
> distal end needs external power.  I was hoping the corning one was
> powering the distal end by CW laser of maybe 200mW with data carried 
> on other wavelengths, or modulation of the power laser, but NOPE, just copper
> wires.  That one's packed up and ready to go back right now.
>
> --
> David VanHorn
> Lead Hardware Engineer
>
> Backcountry Access, Inc.
> 2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H
> Boulder, CO  80301 USA
> phone: 303-417-1345  x110
> email: david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott McGrath 
> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 6:29 AM
> To: David Van Horn 
> Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < 
> time-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber
>
> Wow,  cost cutting at work I have the corning one but its 3 years old 
> Remember when FCC certification meant something for EMC
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 6, 2019, at 3:21 PM, David Van Horn <
> david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Well, it arrived, and it is NOISY.  ☹ It's pushing out longitudinal 
> noise along the cable, and it's deafening my receiver.
>
> After doing some research this morning, it appears that they do the 
> DATA optically but power is taken on copper wires, and I'm betting a 
> boost switcher to compensate for the voltage drop in the 28 ga wire.
>
> https://www.corning.com/microsites/coc/ocbc/Documents/CNT-075-AEN.pdf
>
>
>
> I have another candidate arriving today which will require a 5V supply 
> inside the cage, but I can do that with batteries and a linear 
> regulator, much quieter.
>
>
> --
> David VanHorn
> Lead Hardware Engineer
>
> Backcountry Access, Inc.
> 2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H
> Boulder, CO  80301 USA
> phone: 303-417-1345  x110
> email: david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts  On Behalf Of David 
> Van Horn via time-nuts
> Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 6:15 AM
> To: Scott McGrath ; Discussion of precise time 
> and frequency measurement 
> Cc: David Van Horn 
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber
>
> Ok, thanks for the info.  My unit should be arriving today or tomorrow.
>
> --
> David VanHorn
> Lead Hardware Engineer
>
> Backcountry Access, Inc.
> 2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H
> Boulder, CO  80301 USA
> phone: 303-417-1345  x110
> email: david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott McGrath 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 9:16 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < 
> time-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> Cc: David Van Horn 
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber
>
> You may still have a problem,  That said most of your noise power is 
> going to come from your USB device itself and perhaps the power supply
>
> That said ive never really had a problem doing similar testing using 
> small chambers from ETS-Lindgren and similar vendors using the Corning 
> interface.
>
> That said i’d recommend you go a step up to the Newnex and similar 
> devices they are 3x the price but the fiber interlink is just a 
> standard fiber LC-LC patch cord.
>
> With the low cost interface crimp its cable once accidentally you are 
> buying a new one.
>
> With the newnex you are