Re: [time-nuts] distribution amps for 200 MHz

2020-09-16 Thread J. Cordaro via time-nuts
 Jim,
Look at a TI THS4509 with a minicircuit balun, driving passive CATV splitters.  
-Jay

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 12:23:21 PM PDT, jimlux 
 wrote:  
 
 For work, I'm looking to distribute 200 MHz to 44 widgets..
The usual SRS, etc. boxes max out at 100 MHz.  Any ideas?

(The going in position is "buy a bunch of minicircuits amps and dividers 
and assemble it")

Tnx
Jim

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Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber

2019-12-10 Thread J. Cordaro via time-nuts
 David,
I have used Pontis EMC USB converters and they worked meaning they had good 
radiated immunity and radiated emissions were below CISPR25 levels even in the 
150kHz - 30MHz band.  
hvtechnologies is the US distributor.

My first EMC certification test at low frequencies was a humbling experience 
due to the noise from the switching power supply.  At $7.50 per minute we went 
with stacks of AA batteries in parallel.  
regards,Jay Cordaro


On Friday, December 6, 2019, 03:48:18 PM PST, David Van Horn via time-nuts 
 wrote:  
 
 It's not shielded, and ferrites are pretty useless down here.
I did try, but the ferrites I have did nothing. 

My backup plan arrives supposedly in the next 2 hours

--
David VanHorn
Lead Hardware Engineer

Backcountry Access, Inc.
2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H
Boulder, CO  80301 USA
phone: 303-417-1345  x110
email: david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com 

-Original Message-
From: time-nuts  On Behalf Of Dana Whitlow
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 10:10 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 

Subject: Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber

Even without any funny business with boost converters (or whatever). those 
copper wires make a nice antenna for coupling noise from both ends (PC and USB
accessory) into
the environment inside the chamber.  Unless, of course, the cable is 
well-shielded, which you did not mention.

I suppose it's too late to ask, but did you perhance try adding some clamp-on 
ferrite chokes to the cable?

Dana


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:05 AM David Van Horn via time-nuts < 
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

> This is my backup plan:
> https://industrialcomponent.com/opticis/opm210003.html
>
> The docs are a bit chinglish, but I'm encouraged by the fact that the
> distal end needs external power.  I was hoping the corning one was
> powering the distal end by CW laser of maybe 200mW with data carried 
> on other wavelengths, or modulation of the power laser, but NOPE, just copper
> wires.  That one's packed up and ready to go back right now.
>
> --
> David VanHorn
> Lead Hardware Engineer
>
> Backcountry Access, Inc.
> 2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H
> Boulder, CO  80301 USA
> phone: 303-417-1345  x110
> email: david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott McGrath 
> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 6:29 AM
> To: David Van Horn 
> Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < 
> time-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber
>
> Wow,  cost cutting at work I have the corning one but its 3 years old 
> Remember when FCC certification meant something for EMC
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 6, 2019, at 3:21 PM, David Van Horn <
> david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Well, it arrived, and it is NOISY.  ☹ It's pushing out longitudinal 
> noise along the cable, and it's deafening my receiver.
>
> After doing some research this morning, it appears that they do the 
> DATA optically but power is taken on copper wires, and I'm betting a 
> boost switcher to compensate for the voltage drop in the 28 ga wire.
>
> https://www.corning.com/microsites/coc/ocbc/Documents/CNT-075-AEN.pdf
>
>
>
> I have another candidate arriving today which will require a 5V supply 
> inside the cage, but I can do that with batteries and a linear 
> regulator, much quieter.
>
>
> --
> David VanHorn
> Lead Hardware Engineer
>
> Backcountry Access, Inc.
> 2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H
> Boulder, CO  80301 USA
> phone: 303-417-1345  x110
> email: david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts  On Behalf Of David 
> Van Horn via time-nuts
> Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 6:15 AM
> To: Scott McGrath ; Discussion of precise time 
> and frequency measurement 
> Cc: David Van Horn 
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber
>
> Ok, thanks for the info.  My unit should be arriving today or tomorrow.
>
> --
> David VanHorn
> Lead Hardware Engineer
>
> Backcountry Access, Inc.
> 2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H
> Boulder, CO  80301 USA
> phone: 303-417-1345  x110
> email: david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott McGrath 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 9:16 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < 
> time-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> Cc: David Van Horn 
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber
>
> You may still have a problem,  That said most of your noise power is 
> going to come from your USB device itself and perhaps the power supply
>
> That said ive never really had a problem doing similar testing using 
> small chambers from ETS-Lindgren and similar vendors using the Corning 
> interface.
>
> That said i’d recommend you go a step up to the Newnex and similar 
> devices they are 3x the price but the fiber interlink is just a 
> standard fiber LC-LC patch cord.
>
> With the low cost interface crimp its cable once accidentally you are 
> buying a new one.
>
> With the newnex you are