Re: [time-nuts] FCC OTA pre-emption and restrictions on GPS antennas [was: Short term 10MHz source]
My t'bolt uses a classic magnetic GPS antenna stuck to the top of an old 5.25" disk drive cover laying on top of the screen in the bubble covered skylight in my office. Works as well as the timing antenna 30' the tower. :) On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:08 PM ew via time-nuts wrote: > Had in North Miami Beach that problems at some friends Condos. Used > several times the sewer vent pipe every home seems to have. In one critical > case (unfriendly neighbors) with flat roof cut the pipe off three inches > from the roof used a coupling to the old cut off top pipe but drilled holes > in it and inserted the attached. The young man got to enjoy Tbolt with LH. > Mother liked it.Bert Kehren > In a message dated 1/4/2019 4:16:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, > hol...@hotmail.com writes: > > A friend of mine has his GPS antenna disguised as a bird feeder... ground > plane is a pizza pan. Antenna mounted at the top of a clear tube filled > with bird food... alas, no holes for the birds to get to the > food.___time-nuts mailing list > -- time-n...@lists.febo.comTo unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.comand follow > the instructions there. > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC OTA pre-emption and restrictions on GPS antennas [was: Short term 10MHz source]
Had in North Miami Beach that problems at some friends Condos. Used several times the sewer vent pipe every home seems to have. In one critical case (unfriendly neighbors) with flat roof cut the pipe off three inches from the roof used a coupling to the old cut off top pipe but drilled holes in it and inserted the attached. The young man got to enjoy Tbolt with LH. Mother liked it.Bert Kehren In a message dated 1/4/2019 4:16:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, hol...@hotmail.com writes: A friend of mine has his GPS antenna disguised as a bird feeder... ground plane is a pizza pan. Antenna mounted at the top of a clear tube filled with bird food... alas, no holes for the birds to get to the food.___time-nuts mailing list -- time-n...@lists.febo.comTo unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.comand follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] FCC OTA pre-emption and restrictions on GPS antennas [was: Short term 10MHz source]
A friend of mine has his GPS antenna disguised as a bird feeder... ground plane is a pizza pan. Antenna mounted at the top of a clear tube filled with bird food... alas, no holes for the birds to get to the food. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] FCC OTA pre-emption and restrictions on GPS antennas [was: Short term 10MHz source]
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:03 AM Chris Burford wrote: > My current residence does not allow a permanent GPS antenna therefore I am > limited in its use. [separate thread since I'm not answering the question that was actually asked.] Perhaps not applicable to your situation, but in the US federal law (47 C.F.R. Section 1.4000) substantially prohibits any restriction-- be it a local ordnance, zoning, deed covenant, private contract as part of a lease, etc-- that prevents installing or using small (<1m) antennas for data services in locations where you otherwise have exclusive use. [AFAIK, it doesn't help if you're buried in a basement and just don't have sky access at all] My understanding is that originally the law went was created to protect satellite TV services which were being impacted by cable companies paying off developers to add deed restrictions that prohibited any satellite TV dish, but over time it was amended to cover more things including data services. The FCC has a FAQ: https://www.fcc.gov/media/over-air-reception-devices-rule I've never previously considered the application of this rule to GPS antennas, since they're small and inconspicuous enough that I've never run into much of a concern with them. I am not a lawyer but it seems to me that the rule plausibly enough covers a fixed GPS antenna. Someone having an issue getting approval to install one could potentially make use of the rule in a couple different ways: * By arguing that the GPS timing receiver is covered by the current rule and that federal law pre-empts any rule preventing the installation, or * Putting up an antenna under another service which is more obviously covered (e.g. there are a number of L-band data services...) and swapping out for the GPS after the fact, or * By negotiating using the position that your alternative to running the timing antenna would be installing a much more conspicuous 95cm satellite TV dish ... "So, wouldn't everyone be happier if I could just install the GPS antenna". If a time-nut in the US has found themselves in the unfortunate situation where a small-minded authority (such as a HOA) is capriciously denying setting up a tastefully placed timing antenna one of the above strategies might be useful. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
