Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A on ebay

2020-01-01 Thread Jeremy Nichols
OK, that makes sense. Maybe they had responsibility for keeping all their
state’s radio gear tuned up and on frequency.


On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 2:42 PM jimlux  wrote:

> On 1/1/20 1:27 PM, Jeremy Nichols wrote:
> > Wonder why a highway department would have a rubidium standard?
>
> I'm not sure about one like that, but a frequency standard in the radio
> shop wouldn't be surprising for checking radio frequencies, calibrating
> electronic distance measuring equipment,  etc.
>
> Of course, today, they'd buy a SR725 or some GPSDO.
>
>
> And it might well have been purchased by the ebay vendor as part of a
> lot of surplus gear sold essentially by the pound/ton.
>
> (of course, the seller has only been on ebay for a few months)
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:18 AM ew via time-nuts <
> time-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There is a HP5065A with date code 28 on ebay looks like new 12 hours to
> go
> >>
> >> Bert Kehren
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Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A on ebay

2020-01-01 Thread Jeremy Nichols
Wonder why a highway department would have a rubidium standard?


On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:18 AM ew via time-nuts 
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> There is a HP5065A with date code 28 on ebay looks like new 12 hours to go
>
> Bert Kehren
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[time-nuts] HP5065A on ebay

2020-01-01 Thread ew via time-nuts
There is a HP5065A with date code 28 on ebay looks like new 12 hours to go

Bert Kehren
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Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A on eBay WARNING

2019-02-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, 19:03  Hi,
>
> Wanted to warn about the 5065A that has now sold twice on eBay. (Jan 18
> and Feb 2) When it first listed I contacted the seller and told him the
> optical unit was missing (A12) and he should not call it "fully
> functional" Anyway he sold it for his asking price and now it looks like
> he just sold it again. If he has it returned and lists it again just be
> aware its not all there! Not really worth the price with no A12!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Corby


Although under eBay rules, if an item is not as described, the seller has
to pay the return shipping costs. On a heavy item the seller may well
conclude it is not worth their while, so the buyer gets the item free.

The seller is playing a dangerous game, and perhaps one a buyer can
exploit.

Dave.
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Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A on eBay WARNING

2019-02-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi

The key is the top view of the 5065a. You can see through the holes in the top 
of the unit. 
There’s a big empty space to the right in the picture where the optical unit / 
physics package
should be. There also are a few other tidbits missing but the physics package 
is the biggie. 

Bob

> On Feb 3, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Christoph Kopetzky  wrote:
> 
> Hello Corby,
> in the case that this is a stupid question... I am sorry but can you tell me 
> how I can see that the optical unit is missing?
> There are no pics of an open 5061A device...
> I am also wondering why this seller is shipping these units for this 
> extraordinary price.
> He is telling in the description that the shipping costs will be calculated 
> at the real destination but I will bet that the click
> on the buy it now button bounds you to pay the whole sum ...
> -- 
> 
> with best Regards
> 
> Chris
> 
> Am 03.02.2019 um 18:21 schrieb cdel...@juno.com:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Wanted to warn about the 5065A that has now sold twice on eBay. (Jan 18
>> and Feb 2) When it first listed I contacted the seller and told him the
>> optical unit was missing (A12) and he should not call it "fully
>> functional" Anyway he sold it for his asking price and now it looks like
>> he just sold it again. If he has it returned and lists it again just be
>> aware its not all there! Not really worth the price with no A12!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Corby
>> 
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Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A on eBay WARNING

2019-02-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi

The gotcha with a Cs is the tubes wear out. Last time I put a tube in a 5071 it 
cost just 
about $40,000 including custom shipping of the “hazardous” Cs. From the 
description 
on that uint it does not *appear* that things are working correctly. 

Even if you do get a working Cs standard, the question is - how much longer 
will the 
tube last? It might be good for another 10 years. It might die tomorrow. That 
tends to be
a bit of a concern as far as running them all the time in a basement lab. 

With the high performance tubes in the 5071, my experience was that 6 to 7 
years of 
continuous use was about it. The “standard” tubes in the 5071 should be good 
for > 2X that
time period.  

None of this is to say that the *only* reason one fails is the tube. It is not 
at all uncommon
to have other stuff fail. Usually the small stuff gets fixed and they go back 
into service. 
When the tubes go (or the problem is complicated) the go on the market…..

Indeed none of this is to say you *can’t* get a working Cs. You most certainly 
can. This
list is one pretty good place to find a working one from somebody who *knows* 
that it is
running properly. I’m not selling any of mine, but you may see emails from 
people who are. 

Of course it there *was* a really good deal on a 5071 … hmmm …. maybe I need 
another Cs …. :)

Bob

> On Feb 3, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Christoph Kopetzky  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> thank you.
> Wow I did not realize that. Very interesting :)
> B.t.w. there is a HP 5071A on ...bay item nr 263497171568. Is this cesium 
> clock ok for buying?
> 
> --
> with best Regards
> 
> Chris
> 
> Am 03.02.2019 um 21:29 schrieb Bob kb8tq:
>> Hi
>> 
>> The key is the top view of the 5065a. You can see through the holes in the 
>> top of the unit.
>> There’s a big empty space to the right in the picture where the optical unit 
>> / physics package
>> should be. There also are a few other tidbits missing but the physics 
>> package is the biggie.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Christoph Kopetzky  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Corby,
>>> in the case that this is a stupid question... I am sorry but can you tell 
>>> me how I can see that the optical unit is missing?
>>> There are no pics of an open 5061A device...
>>> I am also wondering why this seller is shipping these units for this 
>>> extraordinary price.
>>> He is telling in the description that the shipping costs will be calculated 
>>> at the real destination but I will bet that the click
>>> on the buy it now button bounds you to pay the whole sum ...
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> with best Regards
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> Am 03.02.2019 um 18:21 schrieb cdel...@juno.com:
 Hi,
 
 Wanted to warn about the 5065A that has now sold twice on eBay. (Jan 18
 and Feb 2) When it first listed I contacted the seller and told him the
 optical unit was missing (A12) and he should not call it "fully
 functional" Anyway he sold it for his asking price and now it looks like
 he just sold it again. If he has it returned and lists it again just be
 aware its not all there! Not really worth the price with no A12!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Corby
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A on eBay WARNING

2019-02-03 Thread Christoph Kopetzky

Hi Bob,
thank you.
Wow I did not realize that. Very interesting :)
B.t.w. there is a HP 5071A on ...bay item nr 263497171568. Is this 
cesium clock ok for buying?


--
with best Regards

Chris

Am 03.02.2019 um 21:29 schrieb Bob kb8tq:

Hi

The key is the top view of the 5065a. You can see through the holes in the top 
of the unit.
There’s a big empty space to the right in the picture where the optical unit / 
physics package
should be. There also are a few other tidbits missing but the physics package 
is the biggie.

Bob


On Feb 3, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Christoph Kopetzky  wrote:

Hello Corby,
in the case that this is a stupid question... I am sorry but can you tell me 
how I can see that the optical unit is missing?
There are no pics of an open 5061A device...
I am also wondering why this seller is shipping these units for this 
extraordinary price.
He is telling in the description that the shipping costs will be calculated at 
the real destination but I will bet that the click
on the buy it now button bounds you to pay the whole sum ...
--

with best Regards

Chris

Am 03.02.2019 um 18:21 schrieb cdel...@juno.com:

Hi,

Wanted to warn about the 5065A that has now sold twice on eBay. (Jan 18
and Feb 2) When it first listed I contacted the seller and told him the
optical unit was missing (A12) and he should not call it "fully
functional" Anyway he sold it for his asking price and now it looks like
he just sold it again. If he has it returned and lists it again just be
aware its not all there! Not really worth the price with no A12!

Cheers,

Corby


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Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A on eBay WARNING

2019-02-03 Thread Christoph Kopetzky

Hello Corby,
in the case that this is a stupid question... I am sorry but can you 
tell me how I can see that the optical unit is missing?

There are no pics of an open 5061A device...
I am also wondering why this seller is shipping these units for this 
extraordinary price.
He is telling in the description that the shipping costs will be 
calculated at the real destination but I will bet that the click

on the buy it now button bounds you to pay the whole sum ...
--

with best Regards

Chris

Am 03.02.2019 um 18:21 schrieb cdel...@juno.com:

Hi,

Wanted to warn about the 5065A that has now sold twice on eBay. (Jan 18
and Feb 2) When it first listed I contacted the seller and told him the
optical unit was missing (A12) and he should not call it "fully
functional" Anyway he sold it for his asking price and now it looks like
he just sold it again. If he has it returned and lists it again just be
aware its not all there! Not really worth the price with no A12!

Cheers,

Corby


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Re: [time-nuts] HP5065A on eBay WARNING

2019-02-03 Thread Tom Van Baak
Thanks much, Corby, for the warning. For those of you wondering about item 
number(s):

"Hewlett Packard HP 5065A Rubidium Vapor Frequency Standard"
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hewlett-Packard-HP-5065A-Rubidium-Vapor-Frequency-Standard-/123599926670
Ended: Jan 18, 2019 , 6:55AM

"Hewlett Packard HP 5065A Rubidium Vapor Frequency Standard"
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hewlett-Packard-HP-5065A-Rubidium-Vapor-Frequency-Standard-/123624314961
Ended: Feb 02, 2019 , 5:06AM

/tvb

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Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 9:21 AM
Subject: HP5065A on eBay WARNING


> Hi, 
> 
> Wanted to warn about the 5065A that has now sold twice on eBay. (Jan 18
> and Feb 2) When it first listed I contacted the seller and told him the
> optical unit was missing (A12) and he should not call it "fully
> functional" Anyway he sold it for his asking price and now it looks like
> he just sold it again. If he has it returned and lists it again just be
> aware its not all there! Not really worth the price with no A12!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Corby
>


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[time-nuts] HP5065A on eBay WARNING

2019-02-03 Thread cdelect
Hi, 

Wanted to warn about the 5065A that has now sold twice on eBay. (Jan 18
and Feb 2) When it first listed I contacted the seller and told him the
optical unit was missing (A12) and he should not call it "fully
functional" Anyway he sold it for his asking price and now it looks like
he just sold it again. If he has it returned and lists it again just be
aware its not all there! Not really worth the price with no A12!

Cheers,

Corby


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