[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard (John Ackermann N8UR)

2021-06-10 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
If anyone who has a 5110A system would like this unit as a spare or 
replacement, drop me a note off list.  It's yours for the cost of 
shipping.  (Only those who can use it as intended need not apply... if 
it were to be dissected and played with, I'd be the one doing it :-) )


John


On 6/7/21 5:52 AM, vilgot...@gmail.com wrote:

This is indeed the frequency standard from the 5110A synthesizer driver. A few 
years ago I scanned and posted the manual for it on BAMA from where you can 
download it. I first encountered this marvelous instrument when I was an EE 
student in the late 1960's and was absolutely blown away by it. I wrote my 
final year thesis in 1970 on frequency synthesizers and the direct synthesis 
technology in the 5100A figured prominently. Compared to the other RF signal 
generators if the day it was way ahead!

Years later I am lucky enough to have a 5100A/5110A combo here and it works 
beautifully. I had to replace an immolated  SRD with a varactor as described in 
the prc68 web page which is a story in itself, and it hasn't missed a beat 
since. The synthesizer has provision for computer control of the push button 
functions so the frequency can be switched very rapidly by software. I have the 
connectors and suitable cable but have never got around to building a suitable 
interface. More modern equipment superseded it but I'm very pleased to have one 
still working.

73, Morris Odell VK3DOC
Locked down in Melbourne, Australia
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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard (John Ackermann N8UR)

2021-06-07 Thread vilgotch1
This is indeed the frequency standard from the 5110A synthesizer driver. A few 
years ago I scanned and posted the manual for it on BAMA from where you can 
download it. I first encountered this marvelous instrument when I was an EE 
student in the late 1960's and was absolutely blown away by it. I wrote my 
final year thesis in 1970 on frequency synthesizers and the direct synthesis 
technology in the 5100A figured prominently. Compared to the other RF signal 
generators if the day it was way ahead!

Years later I am lucky enough to have a 5100A/5110A combo here and it works 
beautifully. I had to replace an immolated  SRD with a varactor as described in 
the prc68 web page which is a story in itself, and it hasn't missed a beat 
since. The synthesizer has provision for computer control of the push button 
functions so the frequency can be switched very rapidly by software. I have the 
connectors and suitable cable but have never got around to building a suitable 
interface. More modern equipment superseded it but I'm very pleased to have one 
still working.

73, Morris Odell VK3DOC
Locked down in Melbourne, Australia
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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard

2021-06-06 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
And (thanks to TVB) -- that's the answer.  It's from the 5110A 
synthesizer driver, circa 1965.


On 6/6/21 1:28 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:


Magne Mæhre writes:

On 6/6/21 4:22 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

Looking through the junk box I came upon a metal box labeled:

Frequency Standard
05110-6014
Series 330


This eBay listing lists it as a 1 MHz HP frequency standard


HP 5110 was the driver HP's first "cash-register" synthesizer.

According to the HP5110A manual:

 05110-6014 is "A2 Frequency Standard"

And:

 05110-6081 is "A3 Crystal Filter"

https://bama.edebris.com/manuals/hp/5110a/




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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard

2021-06-06 Thread Jeremy Nichols
Ahh, the HP-5110A was the driver for the 5100 Synthesizer, a monstrously
heavy beast from the 1960s. See this link:

https://www.prc68.com/I/HP5100.shtml



On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 10:28 AM Poul-Henning Kamp 
wrote:

> 
> Magne Mæhre writes:
> > On 6/6/21 4:22 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
> > > Looking through the junk box I came upon a metal box labeled:
> > >
> > > Frequency Standard
> > > 05110-6014
> > > Series 330
> >
> > This eBay listing lists it as a 1 MHz HP frequency standard
>
> HP 5110 was the driver HP's first "cash-register" synthesizer.
>
> According to the HP5110A manual:
>
>  05110-6014 is "A2 Frequency Standard"
>
> And:
>
>  05110-6081 is "A3 Crystal Filter"
>
> https://bama.edebris.com/manuals/hp/5110a/
>
>
>
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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard

2021-06-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

Magne Mæhre writes:
> On 6/6/21 4:22 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
> > Looking through the junk box I came upon a metal box labeled:
> > 
> > Frequency Standard
> > 05110-6014
> > Series 330
>
> This eBay listing lists it as a 1 MHz HP frequency standard

HP 5110 was the driver HP's first "cash-register" synthesizer.

According to the HP5110A manual:

 05110-6014 is "A2 Frequency Standard"

And:

 05110-6081 is "A3 Crystal Filter"

https://bama.edebris.com/manuals/hp/5110a/



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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard

2021-06-06 Thread Jeremy Nichols
None of my older HP counters, standards, etc., have 5110 part numbers. A 1
MHz standard would date from the early 60s—the 5245L counter was introduced
in ‘63, I believe, with a 1 MHz standard. HP shifted to 5 MHz standards
later in the 1960s. A 5110 number definitely puts it in the Frequency and
Time (02) division, probably before the division moved to Santa Clara from
Palo Alto.

Jeremy



On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 10:06 AM John Ackermann N8UR  wrote:

> Thanks for doing that digging, Magne!  The eBay pics exactly match what
> I have.  I wonder what HP product it was used in... the parts list
> doesn't help with that, unfortunately.  I did a quick search for
> 05110-6030 which is what it replaces, and that didn't turn up anything
> on Google.
>
> John
> 
>
> On 6/6/21 11:39 AM, Magne Mæhre wrote:
> > On 6/6/21 4:22 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
> >> Looking through the junk box I came upon a metal box labeled:
> >>
> >> Frequency Standard
> >> 05110-6014
> >> Series 330
> >
> > This eBay listing lists it as a 1 MHz HP frequency standard
> >
> >
> https://www.ebay.de/itm/133759143331?mkevt=1=1=707-53477-19255-0=5338722076=10001
> >
> >
> >
> > This list refers to it as a replacement
> >
> > http://hparchive.com/PARTS/HP-Parts-List-1973-74.pdf
> >
> > I couldn't get a solid URL for these outdated ebay pics, so I did a
> > screenshot:
> > http://ixocarpa.hytra.org/pub/2021-06-06-zSYSQQhalxs/hp05110-6014.png
> >
> > --Magne / LA1BFA
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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard

2021-06-06 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Thanks for doing that digging, Magne!  The eBay pics exactly match what 
I have.  I wonder what HP product it was used in... the parts list 
doesn't help with that, unfortunately.  I did a quick search for 
05110-6030 which is what it replaces, and that didn't turn up anything 
on Google.


John


On 6/6/21 11:39 AM, Magne Mæhre wrote:

On 6/6/21 4:22 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

Looking through the junk box I came upon a metal box labeled:

Frequency Standard
05110-6014
Series 330


This eBay listing lists it as a 1 MHz HP frequency standard

https://www.ebay.de/itm/133759143331?mkevt=1=1=707-53477-19255-0=5338722076=10001



This list refers to it as a replacement

http://hparchive.com/PARTS/HP-Parts-List-1973-74.pdf

I couldn't get a solid URL for these outdated ebay pics, so I did a
screenshot:
http://ixocarpa.hytra.org/pub/2021-06-06-zSYSQQhalxs/hp05110-6014.png

--Magne / LA1BFA
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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard

2021-06-06 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Bob, that could be -- the R-1051 rings a bell.  Found this page with 
lots of info: http://www.navy-radio.com/rcvrs/r1051.htm


But the part numbers they show for the frequency standard are very 
different than this one, so I'm not sure.


John


On 6/6/21 11:35 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote:

Hi

Sounds a lot like the sort of thing you would see in an R-1051 or similar 
military
gear from the late 1950’s or 1960’s.  The labeling does not sound right for an
assembly out of a piece of HP gear.

Bob


On Jun 6, 2021, at 10:22 AM, John Ackermann N8UR  wrote:

Looking through the junk box I came upon a metal box labeled:

Frequency Standard
05110-6014
Series 330

It's about 4 1/2 x 5 1/2 x 3 inches and has odd voltage inputs -- -16V, +10V, -12.6V 
along with a terminal for "meter switch" and 2 BNC jacks. There are several 
adjustment points accessible through the box.

Google doesn't turn up anything.  Anyone know what this beast is?

Thanks!
John
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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard

2021-06-06 Thread Magne Mæhre
On 6/6/21 4:22 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
> Looking through the junk box I came upon a metal box labeled:
> 
> Frequency Standard
> 05110-6014
> Series 330

This eBay listing lists it as a 1 MHz HP frequency standard

https://www.ebay.de/itm/133759143331?mkevt=1=1=707-53477-19255-0=5338722076=10001



This list refers to it as a replacement

http://hparchive.com/PARTS/HP-Parts-List-1973-74.pdf

I couldn't get a solid URL for these outdated ebay pics, so I did a
screenshot:
http://ixocarpa.hytra.org/pub/2021-06-06-zSYSQQhalxs/hp05110-6014.png

--Magne / LA1BFA
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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard

2021-06-06 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi

Sounds a lot like the sort of thing you would see in an R-1051 or similar 
military
gear from the late 1950’s or 1960’s.  The labeling does not sound right for an
assembly out of a piece of HP gear. 

Bob

> On Jun 6, 2021, at 10:22 AM, John Ackermann N8UR  wrote:
> 
> Looking through the junk box I came upon a metal box labeled:
> 
> Frequency Standard
> 05110-6014
> Series 330
> 
> It's about 4 1/2 x 5 1/2 x 3 inches and has odd voltage inputs -- -16V, +10V, 
> -12.6V along with a terminal for "meter switch" and 2 BNC jacks. There are 
> several adjustment points accessible through the box.
> 
> Google doesn't turn up anything.  Anyone know what this beast is?
> 
> Thanks!
> John
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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard

2021-06-06 Thread John Ackermann
Hi Dana -- 

I'm sure it's not an Rb (no heat sinking, and probably too old).  I think it 
might be from a military HF receiver system (I have a vague recollection of 
that) but the part number looks vaguely HP-ish, so I dunno.

On Jun 6, 2021, 10:48 AM, at 10:48 AM, Dana Whitlow  
wrote:
>John,
>
>At least you seem to have enough info to power it up safely.   From its
>evident
>complexity, I think it might well be a Rb standard.
>
>Dana
>
>
>On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:23 AM John Ackermann N8UR 
>wrote:
>
>> Looking through the junk box I came upon a metal box labeled:
>>
>> Frequency Standard
>> 05110-6014
>> Series 330
>>
>> It's about 4 1/2 x 5 1/2 x 3 inches and has odd voltage inputs --
>-16V,
>> +10V, -12.6V along with a terminal for "meter switch" and 2 BNC
>jacks.
>> There are several adjustment points accessible through the box.
>>
>> Google doesn't turn up anything.  Anyone know what this beast is?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> John
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[time-nuts] Re: Help ID'ing Frequency Standard

2021-06-06 Thread Dana Whitlow
John,

At least you seem to have enough info to power it up safely.   From its
evident
complexity, I think it might well be a Rb standard.

Dana


On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:23 AM John Ackermann N8UR  wrote:

> Looking through the junk box I came upon a metal box labeled:
>
> Frequency Standard
> 05110-6014
> Series 330
>
> It's about 4 1/2 x 5 1/2 x 3 inches and has odd voltage inputs -- -16V,
> +10V, -12.6V along with a terminal for "meter switch" and 2 BNC jacks.
> There are several adjustment points accessible through the box.
>
> Google doesn't turn up anything.  Anyone know what this beast is?
>
> Thanks!
> John
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