[time-nuts] TICC reference source

2019-06-14 Thread Mark Sims
If you are using the TICC to measure the time interval between two signals then 
the reference clock does not need to be all that good (the gooder the better, 
though).  

But if you are using the TICC to measure one or two independent sources, then 
your reference clock should be as good as you can supply.
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Re: [time-nuts] TICC reference source

2019-06-14 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
Thank you!  This is a great manual for time interval measurement.  I'll go with 
10811.

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On Friday, June 14, 2019, 12:28:26 AM EDT, Anders Wallin 
 wrote:  
 
 page 48 here has some notes on time-base 
error:http://leapsecond.com/hpan/an200-3.pdf

for time-interval measurement the number of digits matter. if you keep 
time-intervals 'small', say 123.45 ns (probably can't resolve much below 10ps 
anyway with a TICC) then a time-base with only about 5-6 digits of 
stability is sufficient - even if you are measuring two good H-masers 
against each other.The OCXO may have better short-term stability compared to 
the Rb.
Anders
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 5:01 AM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts 
 wrote:

I am building a TICC-IN-A-BOX.  Basically TICC + TADD-2 mini + reference 
oscillator.
Initially, I was going to use HP11811-6011 but I am also considering PRS10.  (I 
already own both)  While I believe 11811 is sufficient, PRS10 can be kept off 
and reaches usable state (physics lock) faster, while 11811 has to be kept on 
or otherwise usable stability will be few hours.

I do have a house clock but since it can be a subject of measurement, I want my 
TICC-IN-A-BOX to have an independent clock.
Am I thinking correctly?
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Re: [time-nuts] TICC reference source

2019-06-14 Thread Anders Wallin
page 48 here has some notes on time-base error:
http://leapsecond.com/hpan/an200-3.pdf

for time-interval measurement the number of digits matter. if you keep
time-intervals 'small', say 123.45 ns (probably can't resolve much below
10ps anyway with a TICC) then a time-base with only about 5-6 digits of
stability is sufficient - even if you are measuring two good
H-masers against each other.
The OCXO may have better short-term stability compared to the Rb.

Anders

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 5:01 AM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

> I am building a TICC-IN-A-BOX.  Basically TICC + TADD-2 mini + reference
> oscillator.
> Initially, I was going to use HP11811-6011 but I am also considering
> PRS10.  (I already own both)  While I believe 11811 is sufficient, PRS10
> can be kept off and reaches usable state (physics lock) faster, while 11811
> has to be kept on or otherwise usable stability will be few hours.
>
> I do have a house clock but since it can be a subject of measurement, I
> want my TICC-IN-A-BOX to have an independent clock.
> Am I thinking correctly?
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> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya
> I'm stuck in a wormhole  Hello, worms!
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[time-nuts] TICC reference source

2019-06-13 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
I am building a TICC-IN-A-BOX.  Basically TICC + TADD-2 mini + reference 
oscillator.
Initially, I was going to use HP11811-6011 but I am also considering PRS10.  (I 
already own both)  While I believe 11811 is sufficient, PRS10 can be kept off 
and reaches usable state (physics lock) faster, while 11811 has to be kept on 
or otherwise usable stability will be few hours.

I do have a house clock but since it can be a subject of measurement, I want my 
TICC-IN-A-BOX to have an independent clock.
Am I thinking correctly?
--- 
(Mr.) Taka Kamiya
I'm stuck in a wormhole  Hello, worms!
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