Re: [Tinycc-devel] What is your general workflow in answering to mailing list thread?

2020-12-26 Thread Anton Shepelev
Kyryl Melekhin:

> I started to like using mailx for emails recently.
> It seems to be the most minimal email client  that
> is  easy to hack on in C. The learning curve might
> be too steep for an average but in the end it  al-
> ways  ends  up  paying off in the long term.  Mutt
> probably will take a 2nd place in terms  of  mini-
> malism.

In  that  case,  you  might  be  interested to check
aerc -- a   moderntext-modee-mailclient:
https://aerc-mail.org/ .


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Re: [Tinycc-devel] What is your general workflow in answering to mailing list thread?

2020-12-26 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Kyryl Melekhin wrote in
 <5fe75b00.tmvq3c0pt7ej4mxx%k.melek...@gmail.com>:
 |I started to like using mailx for emails recently. 
 |It seems to be the most minimal email client
 |that is easy to hack on in C. The learning curve

Fun i wish.

 |might be too steep for an average but in the end
 |it always ends up paying off in the long term.
 |Mutt probably will take a 2nd place in terms of
 |minimalism.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter   he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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Re: [Tinycc-devel] What is your general workflow in answering to mailing list thread?

2020-12-25 Thread Michael Matz

Hello,

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020, Michael Matz wrote:


c) no top-posting [1], no full-quoting if answering to only some parts,


And obviously I could use an email client that asked me that, if I had 
used something like "[1]" to reference a foot note, and then not 
actually put in a foot note in the mail text, this was not just forgotten 
:)


So, maybe a next rule would be: e) read your text before sending :)

That foot note was supposed to be this:

[1]
This is why top posting is so bad (in top posting order):

 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
 Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
 A: Top-posting.
 Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?


Ciao,
Michael.

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Re: [Tinycc-devel] What is your general workflow in answering to mailing list thread?

2020-12-25 Thread Michael Matz

Hello,

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020, Vaidas BoQsc wrote:


What is the proper way to quote and reply in a Mailing List? Thanks.
I just noticed that instead of replying, I created a new thread.


Thank you for asking.  Generally the usual netiquette rules should be 
obeyed, but we don't need to be too obsessive about them as the size of 
this list is small.  Googling for mailing list netiquette will give you 
various answers, from relaxed to much too strict, but commonalities would 
be:


a) No HTML-only mails (of possible without HTML content, but multi-part
   with non-html is okayish)
b) readable with mono-space font
c) no top-posting [1], no full-quoting if answering to only some parts,
   quote with '> ' prefixed lines
d) 72 characters line width


As an average, I use in-browser Google Mail.
Do I need a Mail Client to have a better experience with Mailing Lists?  


Ugh, let's hope this doesn't transform into a flame-war of 
best-email-clients ;)


gmail is probably the best in-browser client, but still fairly bad as far 
as mail clients go; I'm not sure how much of the badness can be configured 
away.  I'm not a GUI user myself, so can't really suggest anything from 
own experience, but reasonable mails seem to be produced by Thunderbird 
users.  If the settings allow to send text-only mails and a mono-space 
font and do quoting in classic '> bla' style it's going to be fine.



Do you happen to do any manual message formatting work while replying?


(FWIW, I'm using alpine, and the only formatting I regularly use is to 
justify whole text paragraphs to the text width that they don't look too 
jiggly)



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Re: [Tinycc-devel] What is your general workflow in answering to mailing list thread?

2020-12-25 Thread Anton Shepelev
Vaidas BoQsc:

> What is the proper way to quote and reply in a Mailing
> List?

See Netiquette for the basic guidelines:

   https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855

> As an average, I use in-browser Google Mail.

That is not a decent e-mail client, it is terrible.

> Do I need a Mail Client to have a better experience with
> Mailing Lists?

I should say yes. A decent, well-configured mail client is a
game changer. For basic requirements for a mail client, see:

   https://jdebp.eu/Proposals/gnksoa-mua.html

> Do you happen to do any manual message formatting work
> while replying?

I format all my message with the GNU Troff text-proessing
facility, but a good e-mail client will do it for you, so do
not worry :-)


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[Tinycc-devel] What is your general workflow in answering to mailing list thread?

2020-12-25 Thread Vaidas BoQsc
What is the proper way to quote and reply in a Mailing List? Thanks.
I just noticed that instead of replying, I created a new thread.

As an average, I use in-browser Google Mail.
Do I need a Mail Client to have a better experience with Mailing Lists?

Do you happen to do any manual message formatting work while replying?
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