Re: [tips] Are parachutes effective?
My tongue is as firmly planted in my cheek as is Tim's, but here's at least a partial placebo for this study http://tinyurl.com/yjkjfp8 These folks are goof-balls (IMHO). Geez, I wouldn't want to be in either in the experimental group or the placebo group. John -- John Serafin Psychology Department Saint Vincent College Latrobe, PA 15650 john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu From: "Shearon, Tim" Reply-To: TIPS posts Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:52:07 -0400 To: TIPS posts Subject: RE: [tips] Are parachutes effective? John I wonder- it is an empirical question though (leave me out of the participant pool!). Perhaps if folks believed that they could do something (they can) to minimize the damage they might "try harder" (flap their arms, spread out more, etc). I do agree that the motivation isn't likely stronger! But belief and placebo have surprised us before (I hope that a degree of seriousness is perceived in conjunction with a bit of tongue inserted firmly in cheek). :) Likely, speculation is all we can have here though as I'm pretty sure that our IRB won't approve this experiment. Tim -Original Message- From: Serafin, John [mailto:john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:01 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Are parachutes effective? I imagine that, in contrast to some of the other research recently discussed here, the placebo effect might not be getting stronger in this field of research? John --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=1322 or send a blank email to leave-1322-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: [tips] Are parachutes effective?
John I wonder- it is an empirical question though (leave me out of the participant pool!). Perhaps if folks believed that they could do something (they can) to minimize the damage they might "try harder" (flap their arms, spread out more, etc). I do agree that the motivation isn't likely stronger! But belief and placebo have surprised us before (I hope that a degree of seriousness is perceived in conjunction with a bit of tongue inserted firmly in cheek). :) Likely, speculation is all we can have here though as I'm pretty sure that our IRB won't approve this experiment. Tim -Original Message- From: Serafin, John [mailto:john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:01 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Are parachutes effective? I imagine that, in contrast to some of the other research recently discussed here, the placebo effect might not be getting stronger in this field of research? John -- John Serafin Psychology Department Saint Vincent College Latrobe, PA 15650 john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=1319 or send a blank email to leave-1319-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Are parachutes effective?
I imagine that, in contrast to some of the other research recently discussed here, the placebo effect might not be getting stronger in this field of research? John -- John Serafin Psychology Department Saint Vincent College Latrobe, PA 15650 john.sera...@email.stvincent.edu > From: > Reply-To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" > > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:46:34 -0400 > To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" > > Conversation: [tips] Are parachutes effective? > Subject: [tips] Are parachutes effective? > > Smith and Pell report the results of a review and meta-analysis > of randomized controlled trials of parachute use. > > From the Discussion: > > "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a medical > intervention justified by observational data must be in want of > verification through a randomized controlled trial". > > See: > > http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/327/7429/1459#responses > > Smith, C., & Pell, J. (2003). Hazardous journey: Parachute use > to prevent death and major trauma related to gravitational > challenge: systematic review of randomised controlled trials. > BMJ 2003;327:1459-1461. > --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=1318 or send a blank email to leave-1318-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] Are parachutes effective?
Smith and Pell report the results of a review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials of parachute use. >From the Discussion: "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a medical intervention justified by observational data must be in want of verification through a randomized controlled trial". See: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/327/7429/1459#responses Smith, C., & Pell, J. (2003). Hazardous journey: Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma related to gravitational challenge: systematic review of randomised controlled trials. BMJ 2003;327:1459-1461. Stephen Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca 2600 College St. Sherbrooke QC J1M 1Z7 Canada --- --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=1315 or send a blank email to leave-1315-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
