[tips] Intro textbooks

2014-09-05 Thread Annette Taylor
Many questions have arisen recently on the other teaching list about intro 
textbooks. I have not recommended any to anyone because I am sort of 
floundering with my own musings on this topic of what is going on in the intro 
textbook domain. I remember my intro textbook I used in college in 1969 (gasp!) 
and I still have my high school text book from around 1967... VERY MUCH of what 
was in those text books is what is in modern textbooks--and not a whole lot 
more beyond the 1970's/1980's in terms of how psychologists THINK :( 

I am beginning to bothered by the notion that much of what we are teaching in 
intro seems to me to be a history of the overview of the field of psychology 
rather than a brief overview and into the current state of affairs. In addition 
I think that history is a bit revisionist. I mean was Freud EVER a central 
figure for PSYCHOLOGISTS? Not psychiatrists or clinicians--and my impression is 
that even at that time experimental psychology was a much larger field than 
clinical. Yet the way most intro psych texts portray this it seems that 
clinical psychology and Freud and psychoanalysis DOMINATED the 1930's-1950's. 
See the developmental and personality and therapy chapters!

But those texts from the late 60's were completely focused on the current state 
of affairs of their time. It's very sad for me to think that most chapters on 
developmental, in intro have massive amounts of memorizable factoids on Piaget, 
Erikson, Freud, but little if nothing on important later theorists such as 
Bronfenbrenner and other modern developmental researchers who are doing good, 
quality work. The old stuff can now be nicely compartmentalized for easy 
memorization of facts but I'm not sure it teaches students how to think about 
the field. Same for Personality. That has to be the worst offender in modern 
intro textbooks with very little about the newest work that is being done--and 
admittedly this is an area with less newer work than some other areas. Even 
cognitive, my area, is better than most but still has little to nothing on 
neural network explanations of cognitive phenomena. The focus still seems to be 
on c. 1970's information processing.

I wonder if anyone on this list has been thinking about this.

Annette

Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D.
Professor, Psychological Sciences
University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park
San Diego, CA 92110-2492
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Re: [tips] Intro textbooks

2014-09-05 Thread Gerald Peterson
I do explore/think about this as I am teaching a required class for prospective 
majors that uses K. Stanovich's text Thinking Straight About Psychology.  In 
his preface he goes over similar problems we all encounter when dealing with 
students who completed Gen. Psych. They still believe Freud was the father of 
Psych, and still maintain many popular misconceptions/myths such as memory as 
tape recording, schizophrenia as multiple personalities, even ten percent myth. 
Many recall nothing (assuming it was covered) about scientific principles or 
basic methods.  Most still think psychologists are all like Dr. Phil, and that 
clinical/mental health interests define the field.  I personally don't think 
it's the text really, but the approach and perspective taken by the instructor. 
 Just one view...

 
G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D
Psychology@SVSU


 On Sep 5, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Annette Taylor tay...@sandiego.edu wrote:
 
 Many questions have arisen recently on the other teaching list about intro 
 textbooks. I have not recommended any to anyone because I am sort of 
 floundering with my own musings on this topic of what is going on in the 
 intro textbook domain. I remember my intro textbook I used in college in 1969 
 (gasp!) and I still have my high school text book from around 1967... VERY 
 MUCH of what was in those text books is what is in modern textbooks--and not 
 a whole lot more beyond the 1970's/1980's in terms of how psychologists THINK 
 :( 
 
 I am beginning to bothered by the notion that much of what we are teaching in 
 intro seems to me to be a history of the overview of the field of psychology 
 rather than a brief overview and into the current state of affairs. In 
 addition I think that history is a bit revisionist. I mean was Freud EVER a 
 central figure for PSYCHOLOGISTS? Not psychiatrists or clinicians--and my 
 impression is that even at that time experimental psychology was a much 
 larger field than clinical. Yet the way most intro psych texts portray this 
 it seems that clinical psychology and Freud and psychoanalysis DOMINATED the 
 1930's-1950's. See the developmental and personality and therapy chapters!
 
 But those texts from the late 60's were completely focused on the current 
 state of affairs of their time. It's very sad for me to think that most 
 chapters on developmental, in intro have massive amounts of memorizable 
 factoids on Piaget, Erikson, Freud, but little if nothing on important later 
 theorists such as Bronfenbrenner and other modern developmental researchers 
 who are doing good, quality work. The old stuff can now be nicely 
 compartmentalized for easy memorization of facts but I'm not sure it teaches 
 students how to think about the field. Same for Personality. That has to be 
 the worst offender in modern intro textbooks with very little about the 
 newest work that is being done--and admittedly this is an area with less 
 newer work than some other areas. Even cognitive, my area, is better than 
 most but still has little to nothing on neural network explanations of 
 cognitive phenomena. The focus still seems to be on c. 1970's information 
 processing.
 
 I wonder if anyone on this list has been thinking about this.
 
 Annette
 
 Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D.
 Professor, Psychological Sciences
 University of San Diego
 5998 Alcala Park
 San Diego, CA 92110-2492
 tay...@sandiego.edu
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Re: [tips] Intro textbooks

2014-09-05 Thread Deborah S Briihl
I do every 2 years. Every 2 years we switch intro books. I have chaired this 
committee for many a year and we have barely ever used the same books twice. 
Because I have looked at so many for so long, I am way more familiar with intro 
to psych books than I dare say most.
I have complained about this for ages - to book reps, executives in book 
companies during focus groups, review of intro books, etc. Do other sciences do 
this? I just recently joked about this with a coworker - I have older copies of 
psych text (including one by woodworth) and the topics really haven't changed 
that much.

Deb
Deborah Briihl
Dept of psych and counseling
Valdosta state university
dbri...@valdosta.edu
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 On Sep 5, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Annette Taylor tay...@sandiego.edu wrote:
 
 Many questions have arisen recently on the other teaching list about intro 
 textbooks. I have not recommended any to anyone because I am sort of 
 floundering with my own musings on this topic of what is going on in the 
 intro textbook domain. I remember my intro textbook I used in college in 1969 
 (gasp!) and I still have my high school text book from around 1967... VERY 
 MUCH of what was in those text books is what is in modern textbooks--and not 
 a whole lot more beyond the 1970's/1980's in terms of how psychologists THINK 
 :( 
 
 I am beginning to bothered by the notion that much of what we are teaching in 
 intro seems to me to be a history of the overview of the field of psychology 
 rather than a brief overview and into the current state of affairs. In 
 addition I think that history is a bit revisionist. I mean was Freud EVER a 
 central figure for PSYCHOLOGISTS? Not psychiatrists or clinicians--and my 
 impression is that even at that time experimental psychology was a much 
 larger field than clinical. Yet the way most intro psych texts portray this 
 it seems that clinical psychology and Freud and psychoanalysis DOMINATED the 
 1930's-1950's. See the developmental and personality and therapy chapters!
 
 But those texts from the late 60's were completely focused on the current 
 state of affairs of their time. It's very sad for me to think that most 
 chapters on developmental, in intro have massive amounts of memorizable 
 factoids on Piaget, Erikson, Freud, but little if nothing on important later 
 theorists such as Bronfenbrenner and other modern developmental researchers 
 who are doing good, quality work. The old stuff can now be nicely 
 compartmentalized for easy memorization of facts but I'm not sure it teaches 
 students how to think about the field. Same for Personality. That has to be 
 the worst offender in modern intro textbooks with very little about the 
 newest work that is being done--and admittedly this is an area with less 
 newer work than some other areas. Even cognitive, my area, is better than 
 most but still has little to nothing on neural network explanations of 
 cognitive phenomena. The focus still seems to be on c. 1970's information 
 processing.
 
 I wonder if anyone on this list has been thinking about this.
 
 Annette
 
 Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D.
 Professor, Psychological Sciences
 University of San Diego
 5998 Alcala Park
 San Diego, CA 92110-2492
 tay...@sandiego.edu
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