Re:[tips] Conspiracy lovers
In the threadresponding to Michael Britt's question Why dosome people want to believe that there's a conspiracy going on? I'mthinking the usual: that we didn't land on the moon, that the twintowers were destroyed by the US,etc. Marc Carterwrote: I haven't been keepingup with the conversation, but doi:10.1177/0956797612457686 Arecent Psych Science article on conspiracies and a motivatedrejection of science. Having watchedTV programmes and read numerous articles/websites on the moon landinghoax and 9/11 conspiracy theories, I would say that far from rejectingscience, the more coherent claims (only too convincing for those who do not see the rebuttals) are almost entirely based on supposedly scientific analyses of variousaspects of these events. On many items a scientist/engineer with impeccablecredentials is wheeled out to explain why such-and-such could not have happenedin the way they say it did. Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org From: Marc Carter marc.car...@bakeru.edu Subject: RE: Conspiracy lovers Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:58:59 -0500 Ihaven't been keeping up with the conversation, but doi:10.1177/0956797612457686 Arecent Psych Science article on conspiracies and a motivated rejection ofscience. m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences Collegeof Arts Sciences Baker University -- From: Christopher Green [mailto:chri...@yorku.ca] Sent: Thursday, June 06,2013 12:54 PM To: Teaching in thePsychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips]Conspiracy lovers On2013-06-06, at 12:57 PM, John Kulig wrote In-group,out-group joke of the day: Nobody goes to Coney Island anymore. It gets too crowded! Stolenlike a thief in the night from Yogi Berra! http://quote.webcircle.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?city=New%20York Chris --- ChristopherD. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ = From: Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com Subject: Conspiracy lovers Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:33:38 -0400 Okay, Quick question: why do some people want to believe that there's a conspiracy going on? I'm thinking the usual: that we didn't land on the moon, that the twin towers were destroyed by the US, etc. Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=25947 or send a blank email to leave-25947-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: Re:[tips] Conspiracy lovers
Somewhat along these lines, the latest Current Directions in Psychological Science has this: Step by Step: Finding Compensatory Order in Science Bastiaan T. Rutjens, Frenk van Harreveld and Joop van der Pligt People are motivated to maintain the belief that they live in an orderly world in which things are under control. Previous research has shown that perceptions of order can be maintained via two routes: affirming personal control over one's life and future outcomes, and bolstering one's belief in external systems or agents that exert control over the world. Both religion and sociopolitical institutions can provide subjective and socially sanctioned security in the context of low personal control or disorder in one's environment. In this article, we argue that belief in science and progress could serve a similar function. Science is not only assumed to simplify people's lives; it also creates a sense of order and predictability. We show that perceiving order (regardless of external agency) can be sufficient to combat lack of control, and that perceptions of order can be derived from science and from more general beliefs about progress. We also discuss findings from our research addressing the processes underlying these effects and the functionality of compensatory beliefs and perceptions. We conclude that endorsing scientific theories and beliefs in societal and scientific progress helps people regulate threats to order and control, as long as these theories and beliefs suggest that the world is (or will be) an orderly place. doi: 10.1177/0963721412469810 Current Directions in Psychological Science June 2013 vol. 22 no. 3 250-255 Rick Dr. Rick Froman, Chair Division of Humanities and Social Sciences Professor of Psychology Box 3519 John Brown University 2000 W. University Siloam Springs, AR 72761 rfro...@jbu.edumailto:rfro...@jbu.edu (479) 524-7295 http://bit.ly/DrFroman From: Allen Esterson [mailto:allenester...@compuserve.com] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:36 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re:[tips] Conspiracy lovers Having watched TV programmes and read numerous articles/websites on the moon landing hoax and 9/11 conspiracy theories, I would say that far from rejecting science, the more coherent claims (only too convincing for those who do not see the rebuttals) are almost entirely based on supposedly scientific analyses of various aspects of these events. On many items a scientist/engineer with impeccable credentials is wheeled out to explain why such-and-such could not have happened in the way they say it did. Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.commailto:allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.orghttp://www.esterson.org/ --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=25949 or send a blank email to leave-25949-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Conspiracy lovers
OK I have a minute:(1) Separating other people into out-groups and in-groups is a basic human tendency (2) We identify groups by some combination of physical characteristics, gestures, uniforms, languages and accents, customs and beliefs (3) "The media" says things on TV but the media is "out there" (especially if you keep hearing things that we don't like), so we must distinguish ourselves from others "out there" and develop different explanations for events. After a while certain patterns and categories emerge and we must keep them separate to maintain our existing understanding of in- versus out-groups ... like "the liberal media" (most GOPers) "real America" (Palin) etc. Liberals are above this I am picking on conservatives who are more likely to spin wacky conspiracies (except for JFK of course ..)In-group, out-group joke of the day: "Nobody goes to Coney Island anymore. It gets too crowded!" ==John W. Kulig, Ph.D.Professor of PsychologyCoordinator, Psychology HonorsPlymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 ==From: "Michael Britt" mich...@thepsychfiles.comTo: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" tips@fsulist.frostburg.eduSent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:33:38 PMSubject: [tips] Conspiracy loversOkay, Quick question: why do some people want to believe that there's a conspiracy going on? I'm thinking the usual: that we didn't land on the moon, that the twin towers were destroyed by the US, etc.Michael A. Britt, Ph.D.mich...@thepsychfiles.comhttp://www.ThePsychFiles.comTwitter: mbritt---You are currently subscribed to tips as: ku...@mail.plymouth.edu.To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66454n=Tl=tipso=25933or send a blank email to leave-25933-13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5=T=tips=25934 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-25934-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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typo, yikes! ... liberals are _not_ above this! ==John W. Kulig, Ph.D.Professor of PsychologyCoordinator, Psychology HonorsPlymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 ==From: "John Kulig" ku...@mail.plymouth.eduTo: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" tips@fsulist.frostburg.eduSent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:57:46 PMSubject: Re: [tips] Conspiracy loversOK I have a minute:(1) Separating other people into out-groups and in-groups is a basic human tendency (2) We identify groups by some combination of physical characteristics, gestures, uniforms, languages and accents, customs and beliefs (3) "The media" says things on TV but the media is "out there" (especially if you keep hearing things that we don't like), so we must distinguish ourselves from others "out there" and develop different explanations for events. After a while certain patterns and categories emerge and we must keep them separate to maintain our existing understanding of in- versus out-groups ... like "the liberal media" (most GOPers) "real America" (Palin) etc. Liberals are above this I am picking on conservatives who are more likely to spin wacky conspiracies (except for JFK of course ..)In-group, out-group joke of the day: "Nobody goes to Coney Island anymore. It gets too crowded!" ==John W. Kulig, Ph.D.Professor of PsychologyCoordinator, Psychology HonorsPlymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 ==From: "Michael Britt" mich...@thepsychfiles.comTo: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" tips@fsulist.frostburg.eduSent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:33:38 PMSubject: [tips] Conspiracy loversOkay, Quick question: why do some people want to believe that there's a conspiracy going on? I'm thinking the usual: that we didn't land on the moon, that the twin towers were destroyed by the US, etc.Michael A. Britt, Ph.D.mich...@thepsychfiles.comhttp://www.ThePsychFiles.comTwitter: mbritt---You are currently subscribed to tips as: ku...@mail.plymouth.edu.To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66454n=Tl=tipso=25933or send a blank email to leave-25933-13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66...@fsulist.frostburg.edu---You are currently subscribed to tips as: ku...@mail.plymouth.edu.To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66454n=Tl=tipso=25934(It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken)or send a blank email to leave-25934-13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5=T=tips=25935 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-25935-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Conspiracy lovers
Ask, and ye shall receive! http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?hp_r=1; Chris --- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ = On 2013-06-06, at 12:33 PM, Michael Britt wrote: Okay, Quick question: why do some people want to believe that there's a conspiracy going on? I'm thinking the usual: that we didn't land on the moon, that the twin towers were destroyed by the US, etc. Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92n=Tl=tipso=25933 or send a blank email to leave-25933-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=25936 or send a blank email to leave-25936-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Conspiracy lovers
On 2013-06-06, at 12:57 PM, John Kulig wrote: In-group, out-group joke of the day: Nobody goes to Coney Island anymore. It gets too crowded! Stolen like a thief in the night from Yogi Berra! http://quote.webcircle.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?city=New%20York Chris --- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ = --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=25937 or send a blank email to leave-25937-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: [tips] Conspiracy lovers
I haven't been keeping up with the conversation, but doi:10.1177/0956797612457686 A recent Psych Science article on conspiracies and a motivated rejection of science. m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- From: Christopher Green [mailto:chri...@yorku.ca] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:54 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Conspiracy lovers On 2013-06-06, at 12:57 PM, John Kulig wrote: In-group, out-group joke of the day: Nobody goes to Coney Island anymore. It gets too crowded! Stolen like a thief in the night from Yogi Berra! http://quote.webcircle.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?city=New%20York Chris --- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.camailto:chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ = --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: marc.car...@bakeru.edumailto:marc.car...@bakeru.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c90e1n=Tl=tipso=25937 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-25937-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-25937-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by Baker University (BU) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=25938 or send a blank email to leave-25938-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Conspiracy lovers
Argg! I got busted! ==John W. Kulig, Ph.D.Professor of PsychologyCoordinator, Psychology HonorsPlymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 ==From: "Christopher Green" chri...@yorku.caTo: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" tips@fsulist.frostburg.eduSent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 1:54:21 PMSubject: Re: [tips] Conspiracy loversOn 2013-06-06, at 12:57 PM, John Kulig wrote:In-group, out-group joke of the day: "Nobody goes to Coney Island anymore. It gets too crowded!"Stolen like a thief in the night from Yogi Berra!http://quote.webcircle.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?city=New%20YorkChris---Christopher D. GreenDepartment of PsychologyYork UniversityToronto, ON M3J 1P3Canadachri...@yorku.cahttp://www.yorku.ca/christo/=---You are currently subscribed to tips as: ku...@mail.plymouth.edu.To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66454n=Tl=tipso=25937(It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken)or send a blank email to leave-25937-13338.f659d005276678c0696b7f6beda66...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5=T=tips=25939 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-25939-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
