RE: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach
You can put them in the freezer for ten minutes or so and get the same effect as the ice water, but more easily. It takes a lot to kill a roach. I used to hunt them with a bb gun (in So. Texas -- the giant palmetto bugs). The ricocheting bbs did, however, take a toll on the walls that my father (rightly) objected to. m PS The fact that I more enjoyed shooting them suggests that I am one who finds them super icky. And I scream like a 5-year-old when one takes to flight and lands on me. -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- -Original Message- From: Mike Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:45 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Cc: Michael Palij Subject: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach For those of you who are handy working with electronic components and doing surgery on large bugs, here's something you might consider doing for your next lab class though you probably should practice first to make sure that you know what you're doing when you create your cyborg cockroach. Yes, this is very weird. Anyway, here is one of several articles that are currently out there on how a new company Backyard Brains is selling RoboRoach kits and materials. Check out the video at the end of the article (which is also on the YouTube); see: http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/smartnews/2013/06/cyborg-cockroaches- may-become-new-teaching-tools-in-neuroscience-classes/ NOTE #1: I did not know that ice water anesthetizes cockroaches. NOTE#2: Definitely not for people who find cockroaches super icky. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu P.S. It's probably a good a idea to get your cockroaches from the Backyard Brains folks instead of using home grown ones. ;-) --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: marc.car...@bakeru.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c90e 1n=Tl=tipso=26051 or send a blank email to leave-26051- 13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by Baker University (BU) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=26063 or send a blank email to leave-26063-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:31:31 -0700, Marc Carter wrote: Lipstick on a pig. It's always and ever going to be a cockroach, no matter how robocopy you make it. I have horror stories, and we kept a very clean house when I was living down there. Those things are NOT to be trifled with. Two-and-a-half inches of winged evil. Just a couple of points: (1) My experience with cockroaches is almost exclusively with NY roaches which I believe are from the family of German roaches and rarely reach one inch in length (what New Yorkers call waterbugs are much larger bugs but are rare -- these look somewhat like that roaches in the video but I can't say for sure since it's been a while since I saw one up and personal). (2) I'm betting you're big fan of Starship Troopers and not for reasons having to do with either Robert Heinlein or Paul Verhoeven (also of Robocop fame). ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu -Original Message- On Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:21 PM. Mike Palij wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:46:50 -0700, Carol DeVolder wrote: OK, although this looks really interesting, I have one question: Don't most people think cockroaches are super icky? Perhaps. But that's why you have to emphasize the CYBORG part! Remind folks that they'll be getting a shiny cyborg cockroach like Robocop (if your students have never heard of Robocop, play the movie for them -- it will warm them up to owning their own cyborg). It's not a cockroach, it's a CYBORG ;-) --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=26067 or send a blank email to leave-26067-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach
Hi Now that Marc has revealed his moral lapses when it comes to cockroaches, I feel more comfortable reporting my own investigation of the durability of the species (the big ones). We had a few in our house in Greece a few years ago (until I plugged up a hole in the wall under the kitchen counters). They would be seen when you turned on the lights in a dark room and they would quickly scurry into hiding. I managed to catch one by covering it in a small plastic container. I covered the top tightly with Saran wrap. It was quite a few days (presumably without oxygen or food of any sort) before it failed to move when the container was shook. At risk of anthropomorphizing (or engaging in moral justification), the cockroach never seemed to struggle or suffer very much, or at least there were no visible signs of such. Another interesting observation was that there did not appear to be any matter excreted by the cockroach during the entire time, at least as far as I remember. Do insects in general or cockroaches in particular excrete waste matter? Take care Jim Jim Clark Professor Chair of Psychology U Winnipeg Room 4L41A 204-786-9757 204-774-4134 Fax From: Marc Carter [marc.car...@bakeru.edu] Sent: June-14-13 10:35 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach Starship Troopers: loved the book, hated the movie -- too much gore and none of the good stuff (the drama, the sociology, etc). And the German roach (I lived in Williamsburg, Brooklyn before moving here) doesn't really capture cockroach to me. They're almost cute, except when you get an infestation. Those giant winged bastards I grew up with, on the other hand... And the story about the freezer is true: friend of mine and I captured on, put it in a little cage, and left it in the freezer for close to a half hour. It was fine. Then we shot it, and I am not sorry. ;) m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- -Original Message- From: Mike Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 10:00 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Cc: Michael Palij Subject: RE: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:31:31 -0700, Marc Carter wrote: Lipstick on a pig. It's always and ever going to be a cockroach, no matter how robocopy you make it. I have horror stories, and we kept a very clean house when I was living down there. Those things are NOT to be trifled with. Two-and-a-half inches of winged evil. Just a couple of points: (1) My experience with cockroaches is almost exclusively with NY roaches which I believe are from the family of German roaches and rarely reach one inch in length (what New Yorkers call waterbugs are much larger bugs but are rare -- these look somewhat like that roaches in the video but I can't say for sure since it's been a while since I saw one up and personal). (2) I'm betting you're big fan of Starship Troopers and not for reasons having to do with either Robert Heinlein or Paul Verhoeven (also of Robocop fame). ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by Baker University (BU) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a891720c9n=Tl=tipso=26068 or send a blank email to leave-26068-13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a89172...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=26069 or send a blank email to leave-26069-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach
I cannot answer your question, but let's keep in mind that these things can even survive levels of radiation that could kill us in a mere 10 minutes: http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/mythbusters-database/cockroaches-survive-nuclear-explosion.htm Miguel - Original Message - From: Jim Clark j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:55:15 AM Subject: RE: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach Hi Now that Marc has revealed his moral lapses when it comes to cockroaches, I feel more comfortable reporting my own investigation of the durability of the species (the big ones). We had a few in our house in Greece a few years ago (until I plugged up a hole in the wall under the kitchen counters). They would be seen when you turned on the lights in a dark room and they would quickly scurry into hiding. I managed to catch one by covering it in a small plastic container. I covered the top tightly with Saran wrap. It was quite a few days (presumably without oxygen or food of any sort) before it failed to move when the container was shook. At risk of anthropomorphizing (or engaging in moral justification), the cockroach never seemed to struggle or suffer very much, or at least there were no visible signs of such. Another interesting observation was that there did not appear to be any matter excreted by the cockroach during the entire time, at least as far as I remember. Do insects in general or cockroaches in particular excrete waste matter? Take care Jim Jim Clark Professor Chair of Psychology U Winnipeg Room 4L41A 204-786-9757 204-774-4134 Fax From: Marc Carter [marc.car...@bakeru.edu] Sent: June-14-13 10:35 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach Starship Troopers: loved the book, hated the movie -- too much gore and none of the good stuff (the drama, the sociology, etc). And the German roach (I lived in Williamsburg, Brooklyn before moving here) doesn't really capture cockroach to me. They're almost cute, except when you get an infestation. Those giant winged bastards I grew up with, on the other hand... And the story about the freezer is true: friend of mine and I captured on, put it in a little cage, and left it in the freezer for close to a half hour. It was fine. Then we shot it, and I am not sorry. ;) m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- -Original Message- From: Mike Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 10:00 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Cc: Michael Palij Subject: RE: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:31:31 -0700, Marc Carter wrote: Lipstick on a pig. It's always and ever going to be a cockroach, no matter how robocopy you make it. I have horror stories, and we kept a very clean house when I was living down there. Those things are NOT to be trifled with. Two-and-a-half inches of winged evil. Just a couple of points: (1) My experience with cockroaches is almost exclusively with NY roaches which I believe are from the family of German roaches and rarely reach one inch in length (what New Yorkers call waterbugs are much larger bugs but are rare -- these look somewhat like that roaches in the video but I can't say for sure since it's been a while since I saw one up and personal). (2) I'm betting you're big fan of Starship Troopers and not for reasons having to do with either Robert Heinlein or Paul Verhoeven (also of Robocop fame). ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by Baker University (BU) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a891720c9n=Tl=tipso=26068 or send a blank email to leave-26068-13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a89172...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed
RE: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 08:55:22 -0700, Jim Clark wrote: [snip] ...Another interesting observation was that there did not appear to be any matter excreted by the cockroach during the entire time, at least as far as I remember. Do insects in general or cockroaches in particular excrete waste matter? Okay, for everything you ever wanted to know about insect poop, see: Weiss, M. R. (2006). Defecation behavior and ecology of insects. * Annu. Rev. Entomol.*, *51*, 635-661. http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.ento.49.061802.123212 Cockroach poop and frass are actually very problematic substances because they are triggers for asthma; for a review, see: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11882-012-0276-1/fulltext.html For more general information on these bugs, see this page from Cornell U: http://www.nysipm.cornell.edu/whats_bugging_you/cockroaches/ For a somewhat humorous take on frass (remnants of cockroach poop) see this entomologist view of it and, I am not kidding, German cooking: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=6cad=rjaved=0CEgQFjAFurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.entsoc.org%2FPDF%2FPubs%2FPeriodicals%2FAE%2FAE-2003%2Ffall%2FBuzzwords.pdfei=gEi7UaCWMbi24AOPuoGQDwusg=AFQjCNEOQiZ2tHjr8rkaK08ggu_2Zyh3CQsig2=PRWga5eMZPyNxJ9JORkjKQ I think it's funnier if one is German. Or maybe not. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=26071 or send a blank email to leave-26071-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach
OK, although this looks really interesting, I have one question: Don't most people think cockroaches are super icky? On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu wrote: For those of you who are handy working with electronic components and doing surgery on large bugs, here's something you might consider doing for your next lab class though you probably should practice first to make sure that you know what you're doing when you create your cyborg cockroach. Yes, this is very weird. Anyway, here is one of several articles that are currently out there on how a new company Backyard Brains is selling RoboRoach kits and materials. Check out the video at the end of the article (which is also on the YouTube); see: http://blogs.smithsonianmag.**com/smartnews/2013/06/cyborg-** cockroaches-may-become-new-**teaching-tools-in-**neuroscience-classes/http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/smartnews/2013/06/cyborg-cockroaches-may-become-new-teaching-tools-in-neuroscience-classes/ NOTE #1: I did not know that ice water anesthetizes cockroaches. NOTE#2: Definitely not for people who find cockroaches super icky. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu P.S. It's probably a good a idea to get your cockroaches from the Backyard Brains folks instead of using home grown ones. ;-) --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: devoldercar...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/**u?id=177920.** a45340211ac7929163a0216233**41n=Tl=tipso=26051http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623341n=Tl=tipso=26051 or send a blank email to leave-26051-177920.** a45340211ac7929163a0216233**4...@fsulist.frostburg.eduleave-26051-177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623...@fsulist.frostburg.edu -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=26054 or send a blank email to leave-26054-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] For Your Next Lab Class: How To Build Your Own Cyborg Cockroach
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:46:50 -0700, Carol DeVolder wrote: OK, although this looks really interesting, I have one question: Don't most people think cockroaches are super icky? Perhaps. But that's why you have to emphasize the CYBORG part! Remind folks that they'll be getting a shiny cyborg cockroach like Robocop (if your students have never heard of Robocop, play the movie for them -- it will warm them up to owning their own cyborg). It's not a cockroach, it's a CYBORG ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu wrote: For those of you who are handy working with electronic components and doing surgery on large bugs, here's something you might consider doing for your next lab class though you probably should practice first to make sure that you know what you're doing when you create your cyborg cockroach. Yes, this is very weird. Anyway, here is one of several articles that are currently out there on how a new company Backyard Brains is selling RoboRoach kits and materials. Check out the video at the end of the article (which is also on the YouTube); see: http://blogs.smithsonianmag.**com/smartnews/2013/06/cyborg-**cockroaches-may-become-new-**teaching-tools-in-**neuroscience-classes/http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/smartnews/2013/06/cyborg-cockroaches-may-become-new-teaching-tools-in-neuroscience-classes/ NOTE #1: I did not know that ice water anesthetizes cockroaches. NOTE#2: Definitely not for people who find cockroaches super icky. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu P.S. It's probably a good a idea to get your cockroaches from the Backyard Brains folks instead of using home grown ones. ;-) --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=26055 or send a blank email to leave-26055-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
