Re: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect
I've been worried about my inability to give credit for the exercise I posted. I had typed up the exercise many years ago, and I'm not positive where I originally found it. (Not very good research, I know!) But my gut feeling is that it was from one of the first social psychology texts I ever used (by Dave Myers), so I'm thinking that the exercise may have been designed by Martin Bolt. I will continue to try to find the original source. Beth Benoit Granite State College Plymouth State University New Hampshire On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Carol DeVolder devoldercar...@gmail.comwrote: Perfect. Thank you all for your help, especially the extra trouble you went to Beth. I really appreciate it! Carol On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Beth Benoit beth.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a scan. When I have used this in my classes, the lowest average was 2.6 for #8. All of the rest were above 3.1, and most were 3.7 and above. Beth Benoit On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Beth Benoit beth.ben...@gmail.comwrote: I found it...it's called Expectations of Future Outcomes. I'll try to send it as a .pdf. If not, I'll retype it and send... Beth Benoit On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Beth Benoit beth.ben...@gmail.comwrote: I recall one that includes questions like, I think I will have a long life, I think I will have a happy marriage, etc. I'm still looking... Beth Benoit Granite State College Plymouth State University New Hampshire On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Tollefsrud, Linda linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu wrote: The exercise from the Instructor’s Manual for the Myers text looks like this: ** ** These questions are, for the most part, drawn from “The Student Descriptive Questionnaire,” put out by the College Board. The questions concern how you feel you compare with other people your own age in certain areas of ability. On the answer sheet, mark the letter hi 1 if you feel you are in the *highest 1 percent* in that area of ability hi 10 if you feel you are in the *highest 10 percent* in that area of ability aaif you feel you are *above average* in that area of ability a if you feel you are *average *in that area of ability ba if you feel you are *below average* in that area of ability ** ** ** ** hi hi 110aa a ba ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Acting ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Artistic ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Athletic ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Getting along with others ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Leadership ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Mathematical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Mechanical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Musical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Organizing work ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Sales ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Scientific ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Spoken expression ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Written expression ** ** From* College Descriptive Questionnaire.* College Entrance Examination Board, N.Y. Used by permission of Educational Testing Service, the copyright owner. ** ** There’s another version where they include the bottom 10% and the bottom 1% -- probably a less biased way to ask the questions. ** ** Having just completed it (the less biased version), I can tell you that 17% of my students are in the top 1% regarding “ability to get along with others” and an additional 37% put themselves in the top 10%. The surprising thing to me was how many rated themselves highly on speaking and writing ability when, as faculty, we are not terribly impressed. ** ** Linda Tollefsrud UW Colleges 1800 College Drive Rice Lake, WI 54868 715.234.8176 linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu ** ** ** ** *From:* Carol DeVolder [mailto:devoldercar...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:30 AM *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) *Subject:* [tips] Lake Wobegon effect ** ** Dear TIPSters, I used to have a demonstration that I used in class for the Lake Wobegon effect, but as is typical of me, I have misplaced it and I'm not sure from where I originally got it. Does anyone have a copy of it or something similar that he or she is willing to share? Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol
RE: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect
I know there's some stuff in Tom Gilovich's book (_How we know what isn't so_), but don't have my copy with me. If you have a copy of that, it'll have some examples. m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- From: Carol DeVolder [mailto:devoldercar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:30 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect Dear TIPSters, I used to have a demonstration that I used in class for the Lake Wobegon effect, but as is typical of me, I have misplaced it and I'm not sure from where I originally got it. Does anyone have a copy of it or something similar that he or she is willing to share? Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: marc.car...@bakeru.edumailto:marc.car...@bakeru.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c90e1n=Tl=tipso=15930 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-15930-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-15930-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by Baker University (BU) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=15931 or send a blank email to leave-15931-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect
There's always rating your driving ability relative to others of your driving experience. Everybody's above average. Marte Marte Fallshore Department of Psychology Central Washington Univ. 400 E University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7575 509/963-3670 509/963-2307 (fax) Room 462, Psychology Building Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts. ~Daniel Patrick Moynihan When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist. ~Dom Heider Camara I teach for free; they pay me to grade. (anon) Carol DeVolder devoldercar...@gmail.com 2/8/2012 9:30 AM Dear TIPSters, I used to have a demonstration that I used in class for the Lake Wobegon effect, but as is typical of me, I have misplaced it and I'm not sure from where I originally got it. Does anyone have a copy of it or something similar that he or she is willing to share? Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: ma...@cwu.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13382.d0812edf466bc20c650b452513b583e7n=Tl=tipso=15930 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-15930-13382.d0812edf466bc20c650b452513b58...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=15932 or send a blank email to leave-15932-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect
Hi Gilovich talks primarily about the self-enhancement effect, which he refers to as wish to believe in his chapter on seeing what we want to see. He reports 70% of 1 million high school students thought they were above average in leadership ability, only 2% below average all students above average in ability to get along with others, 60% in top 10%, 25% in top 1% 94% university professors thought they were better at their jobs than average colleague he notes that effect stronger for ambiguous traits (what is excellence in sensitivity and idealism?), weaker for more specific traits (thriftiness, being well read) or when specific definitions used In university students, effect stronger in traits students rated as more important Although not mentioned by Gilovich in what I perused, self-enhancement has been found generally to be stronger in West than in other cultures. I have some stuff on self-enhancement and culture at (starts with slide 13:40) http://ion.uwinnipeg.ca/~clark/teach/3050/Aech13-soc1self.pdf Take care Jim James M. Clark Professor of Psychology 204-786-9757 204-774-4134 Fax j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca Marc Carter marc.car...@bakeru.edu 08-Feb-12 11:39 AM I know there's some stuff in Tom Gilovich's book (_How we know what isn't so_), but don't have my copy with me. If you have a copy of that, it'll have some examples. m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- From: Carol DeVolder [mailto:devoldercar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:30 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect Dear TIPSters, I used to have a demonstration that I used in class for the Lake Wobegon effect, but as is typical of me, I have misplaced it and I'm not sure from where I originally got it. Does anyone have a copy of it or something similar that he or she is willing to share? Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: marc.car...@bakeru.edumailto:marc.car...@bakeru.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c90e1n=Tl=tipso=15930 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-15930-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-15930-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by Baker University (BU) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a891720c9n=Tl=tipso=15931 or send a blank email to leave-15931-13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a89172...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=15933 or send a blank email to leave-15933-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect
Sense of humor produces a pretty reliable effect. It may be due to the fact that the comparison group is larger than the immediate group (the class) but the average person in the class will see their sense of humor as way above average. Rick Rick Froman rfro...@jbu.edu On Feb 8, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Jim Clark j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca wrote: Hi Gilovich talks primarily about the self-enhancement effect, which he refers to as wish to believe in his chapter on seeing what we want to see. He reports 70% of 1 million high school students thought they were above average in leadership ability, only 2% below average all students above average in ability to get along with others, 60% in top 10%, 25% in top 1% 94% university professors thought they were better at their jobs than average colleague he notes that effect stronger for ambiguous traits (what is excellence in sensitivity and idealism?), weaker for more specific traits (thriftiness, being well read) or when specific definitions used In university students, effect stronger in traits students rated as more important Although not mentioned by Gilovich in what I perused, self-enhancement has been found generally to be stronger in West than in other cultures. I have some stuff on self-enhancement and culture at (starts with slide 13:40) http://ion.uwinnipeg.ca/~clark/teach/3050/Aech13-soc1self.pdf Take care Jim James M. Clark Professor of Psychology 204-786-9757 204-774-4134 Fax j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca Marc Carter marc.car...@bakeru.edu 08-Feb-12 11:39 AM I know there's some stuff in Tom Gilovich's book (_How we know what isn't so_), but don't have my copy with me. If you have a copy of that, it'll have some examples. m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- From: Carol DeVolder [mailto:devoldercar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:30 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect Dear TIPSters, I used to have a demonstration that I used in class for the Lake Wobegon effect, but as is typical of me, I have misplaced it and I'm not sure from where I originally got it. Does anyone have a copy of it or something similar that he or she is willing to share? Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: marc.car...@bakeru.edumailto:marc.car...@bakeru.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c90e1n=Tl=tipso=15930 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-15930-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-15930-13029.76c7c563b32ad9d8d09c72a2d17c9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by Baker University (BU) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a891720c9n=Tl=tipso=15931 or send a blank email to leave-15931-13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a89172...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: rfro...@jbu.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13039.37a56d458b5e856d05bcfb3322db5f8an=Tl=tipso=15933 or send a blank email to leave-15933-13039.37a56d458b5e856d05bcfb3322db5...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=15934 or send a blank email to leave-15934-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect
The exercise from the Instructor's Manual for the Myers text looks like this: These questions are, for the most part, drawn from The Student Descriptive Questionnaire, put out by the College Board. The questions concern how you feel you compare with other people your own age in certain areas of ability. On the answer sheet, mark the letter hi 1 if you feel you are in the highest 1 percent in that area of ability hi 10 if you feel you are in the highest 10 percent in that area of ability aaif you feel you are above average in that area of ability a if you feel you are average in that area of ability ba if you feel you are below average in that area of ability hi hi 110aa a ba ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Acting ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Artistic ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Athletic ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Getting along with others ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Leadership ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Mathematical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Mechanical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Musical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Organizing work ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Sales ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Scientific ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Spoken expression ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Written expression From College Descriptive Questionnaire. College Entrance Examination Board, N.Y. Used by permission of Educational Testing Service, the copyright owner. There's another version where they include the bottom 10% and the bottom 1% -- probably a less biased way to ask the questions. Having just completed it (the less biased version), I can tell you that 17% of my students are in the top 1% regarding ability to get along with others and an additional 37% put themselves in the top 10%. The surprising thing to me was how many rated themselves highly on speaking and writing ability when, as faculty, we are not terribly impressed. Linda Tollefsrud UW Colleges 1800 College Drive Rice Lake, WI 54868 715.234.8176 linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu From: Carol DeVolder [mailto:devoldercar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:30 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect Dear TIPSters, I used to have a demonstration that I used in class for the Lake Wobegon effect, but as is typical of me, I have misplaced it and I'm not sure from where I originally got it. Does anyone have a copy of it or something similar that he or she is willing to share? Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: linda.tollefs...@uwc.edumailto:linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791e9en=Tl=tipso=15930 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-15930-13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-15930-13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=15942 or send a blank email to leave-15942-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect
I recall one that includes questions like, I think I will have a long life, I think I will have a happy marriage, etc. I'm still looking... Beth Benoit Granite State College Plymouth State University New Hampshire On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Tollefsrud, Linda linda.tollefs...@uwc.eduwrote: The exercise from the Instructor’s Manual for the Myers text looks like this: ** ** These questions are, for the most part, drawn from “The Student Descriptive Questionnaire,” put out by the College Board. The questions concern how you feel you compare with other people your own age in certain areas of ability. On the answer sheet, mark the letter hi 1 if you feel you are in the *highest 1 percent* in that area of ability hi 10 if you feel you are in the *highest 10 percent* in that area of ability aaif you feel you are *above average* in that area of ability a if you feel you are *average *in that area of ability ba if you feel you are *below average* in that area of ability ** ** ** ** hi hi 110aa a ba ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Acting ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Artistic ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Athletic ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Getting along with others ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Leadership ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Mathematical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Mechanical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Musical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Organizing work ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Sales ability* *** ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Scientific ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Spoken expression ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Written expression ** ** From* College Descriptive Questionnaire.* College Entrance Examination Board, N.Y. Used by permission of Educational Testing Service, the copyright owner. ** ** There’s another version where they include the bottom 10% and the bottom 1% -- probably a less biased way to ask the questions. ** ** Having just completed it (the less biased version), I can tell you that 17% of my students are in the top 1% regarding “ability to get along with others” and an additional 37% put themselves in the top 10%. The surprising thing to me was how many rated themselves highly on speaking and writing ability when, as faculty, we are not terribly impressed. ** ** Linda Tollefsrud UW Colleges 1800 College Drive Rice Lake, WI 54868 715.234.8176 linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu ** ** ** ** *From:* Carol DeVolder [mailto:devoldercar...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:30 AM *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) *Subject:* [tips] Lake Wobegon effect ** ** Dear TIPSters, I used to have a demonstration that I used in class for the Lake Wobegon effect, but as is typical of me, I have misplaced it and I'm not sure from where I originally got it. Does anyone have a copy of it or something similar that he or she is willing to share? Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791e9en=Tl=tipso=15930 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-15930-13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791...@fsulist.frostburg.edu** ** --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: beth.ben...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13105.b9b37cdd198e940b73969ea6ba7aaf72n=Tl=tipso=15942 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-15942-13105.b9b37cdd198e940b73969ea6ba7aa...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=15943 or send a blank email to leave-15943-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect
I found it...it's called Expectations of Future Outcomes. I'll try to send it as a .pdf. If not, I'll retype it and send... Beth Benoit On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Beth Benoit beth.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I recall one that includes questions like, I think I will have a long life, I think I will have a happy marriage, etc. I'm still looking... Beth Benoit Granite State College Plymouth State University New Hampshire On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Tollefsrud, Linda linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu wrote: The exercise from the Instructor’s Manual for the Myers text looks like this: ** ** These questions are, for the most part, drawn from “The Student Descriptive Questionnaire,” put out by the College Board. The questions concern how you feel you compare with other people your own age in certain areas of ability. On the answer sheet, mark the letter hi 1 if you feel you are in the *highest 1 percent* in that area of ability hi 10 if you feel you are in the *highest 10 percent* in that area of ability aaif you feel you are *above average* in that area of ability a if you feel you are *average *in that area of ability*** * ba if you feel you are *below average* in that area of ability ** ** ** ** hi hi 110aa a ba ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Acting ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Artistic ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Athletic ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Getting along with others ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Leadership ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Mathematical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Mechanical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Musical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Organizing work ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Sales ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Scientific ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Spoken expression ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Written expression ** ** From* College Descriptive Questionnaire.* College Entrance Examination Board, N.Y. Used by permission of Educational Testing Service, the copyright owner. ** ** There’s another version where they include the bottom 10% and the bottom 1% -- probably a less biased way to ask the questions. ** ** Having just completed it (the less biased version), I can tell you that 17% of my students are in the top 1% regarding “ability to get along with others” and an additional 37% put themselves in the top 10%. The surprising thing to me was how many rated themselves highly on speaking and writing ability when, as faculty, we are not terribly impressed. ** ** Linda Tollefsrud UW Colleges 1800 College Drive Rice Lake, WI 54868 715.234.8176 linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu ** ** ** ** *From:* Carol DeVolder [mailto:devoldercar...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:30 AM *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) *Subject:* [tips] Lake Wobegon effect ** ** Dear TIPSters, I used to have a demonstration that I used in class for the Lake Wobegon effect, but as is typical of me, I have misplaced it and I'm not sure from where I originally got it. Does anyone have a copy of it or something similar that he or she is willing to share? Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791e9en=Tl=tipso=15930 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-15930-13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791...@fsulist.frostburg.edu* *** --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: beth.ben...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13105.b9b37cdd198e940b73969ea6ba7aaf72n=Tl=tipso=15942 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-15942-13105.b9b37cdd198e940b73969ea6ba7aa...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: beth.ben...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here:
Re: [tips] Lake Wobegon effect
Perfect. Thank you all for your help, especially the extra trouble you went to Beth. I really appreciate it! Carol On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Beth Benoit beth.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a scan. When I have used this in my classes, the lowest average was 2.6 for #8. All of the rest were above 3.1, and most were 3.7 and above. Beth Benoit On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Beth Benoit beth.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I found it...it's called Expectations of Future Outcomes. I'll try to send it as a .pdf. If not, I'll retype it and send... Beth Benoit On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Beth Benoit beth.ben...@gmail.comwrote: I recall one that includes questions like, I think I will have a long life, I think I will have a happy marriage, etc. I'm still looking... Beth Benoit Granite State College Plymouth State University New Hampshire On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Tollefsrud, Linda linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu wrote: The exercise from the Instructor’s Manual for the Myers text looks like this: ** ** These questions are, for the most part, drawn from “The Student Descriptive Questionnaire,” put out by the College Board. The questions concern how you feel you compare with other people your own age in certain areas of ability. On the answer sheet, mark the letter hi 1 if you feel you are in the *highest 1 percent* in that area of ability hi 10 if you feel you are in the *highest 10 percent* in that area of ability aaif you feel you are *above average* in that area of ability a if you feel you are *average *in that area of ability* *** ba if you feel you are *below average* in that area of ability ** ** ** ** hi hi 110aa a ba ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Acting ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Artistic ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Athletic ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Getting along with others ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Leadership ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Mathematical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Mechanical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Musical ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Organizing work ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Sales ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Scientific ability ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Spoken expression ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Written expression ** ** From* College Descriptive Questionnaire.* College Entrance Examination Board, N.Y. Used by permission of Educational Testing Service, the copyright owner. ** ** There’s another version where they include the bottom 10% and the bottom 1% -- probably a less biased way to ask the questions. ** ** Having just completed it (the less biased version), I can tell you that 17% of my students are in the top 1% regarding “ability to get along with others” and an additional 37% put themselves in the top 10%. The surprising thing to me was how many rated themselves highly on speaking and writing ability when, as faculty, we are not terribly impressed. ** ** Linda Tollefsrud UW Colleges 1800 College Drive Rice Lake, WI 54868 715.234.8176 linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu ** ** ** ** *From:* Carol DeVolder [mailto:devoldercar...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:30 AM *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) *Subject:* [tips] Lake Wobegon effect ** ** Dear TIPSters, I used to have a demonstration that I used in class for the Lake Wobegon effect, but as is typical of me, I have misplaced it and I'm not sure from where I originally got it. Does anyone have a copy of it or something similar that he or she is willing to share? Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791e9en=Tl=tipso=15930 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-15930-13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as:
