Re: [tips] More wine...
It's possible that's what causing the color shift… a dirty sink…
Paul
On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Carol DeVolder wrote:
Try not to stain your sink.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Marc Carter
mailto:marc.car...@bakeru.edu>> wrote:
I'll try this one -- it's easier than trying to figure the ph of the porcelain
(although that's an interesting idea and I wish I could do it). I'll get some
food coloring when I shop this weekend, and will report back what I find.
If it works, I'll be all set to celebrate. :)
Thanks, all!
m
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Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences
College of Arts & Sciences
Baker University
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> From: Paul C Bernhardt
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:56 PM
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> Subject: Re: [tips] More wine...
>
> Possibly... now, get some red food coloring, add a little bit of blue to
> get a color similar to the wine. Then, dilute it as before and pour it
> into the sink. If you get a similar color shift, then it is probably
> color of sink rather than chemical reaction. Do the same with blue food
> coloring alone, diluted, then poured to see if it shifts to green.
>
> Paul
>
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Marc Carter wrote:
>
> > Hi again, all --
> >
> > First, thanks to those who responded. I think I've figured it out,
> but still need to work out details.
> >
> > Last night I took a few drops of wine and diluted it as much as I
> could (filled the glass as full as I could with water).
> >
> > Purplish, still. (I had an independent observer name the color for
> > me. The spouse was there, thinking, I'm sure, that I'm slightly
> mad.)
> >
> > Then I dumped it into the sink. It was bluish, not purplish.
> (Again,
> > got independent confirmation.)
> >
> > So I think that the sink is not completely white; I think it has a
> slight yellowish tint. The light reflected through the purple would
> have fewer short-wavelengths and also fewer long ones. Purple is non-
> spectral, and is gotten by combining both long- and short-wavelength
> lights. It could be that the light reflected from the sink is without
> (proportionately) more long- than short-wavelengths, and so the wine
> would appear bluish. This I think is also helped by the fact that the
> sink is illuminated by a fluorescent bulb; they tend to have more power
> in the shorter-wavelength end of the spectrum.
> >
> > What do you think? :)
> >
> > m
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Re: [tips] More wine...
Try not to stain your sink.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Marc Carter wrote:
> I'll try this one -- it's easier than trying to figure the ph of the
> porcelain (although that's an interesting idea and I wish I could do it).
> I'll get some food coloring when I shop this weekend, and will report back
> what I find.
>
> If it works, I'll be all set to celebrate. :)
>
> Thanks, all!
>
> m
>
> --
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> Associate Professor of Psychology
> Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences
> College of Arts & Sciences
> Baker University
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul C Bernhardt [mailto:pcbernha...@frostburg.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:56 PM
> > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> > Subject: Re: [tips] More wine...
> >
> > Possibly... now, get some red food coloring, add a little bit of blue to
> > get a color similar to the wine. Then, dilute it as before and pour it
> > into the sink. If you get a similar color shift, then it is probably
> > color of sink rather than chemical reaction. Do the same with blue food
> > coloring alone, diluted, then poured to see if it shifts to green.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Marc Carter wrote:
> >
> > > Hi again, all --
> > >
> > > First, thanks to those who responded. I think I've figured it out,
> > but still need to work out details.
> > >
> > > Last night I took a few drops of wine and diluted it as much as I
> > could (filled the glass as full as I could with water).
> > >
> > > Purplish, still. (I had an independent observer name the color for
> > > me. The spouse was there, thinking, I'm sure, that I'm slightly
> > mad.)
> > >
> > > Then I dumped it into the sink. It was bluish, not purplish.
> > (Again,
> > > got independent confirmation.)
> > >
> > > So I think that the sink is not completely white; I think it has a
> > slight yellowish tint. The light reflected through the purple would
> > have fewer short-wavelengths and also fewer long ones. Purple is non-
> > spectral, and is gotten by combining both long- and short-wavelength
> > lights. It could be that the light reflected from the sink is without
> > (proportionately) more long- than short-wavelengths, and so the wine
> > would appear bluish. This I think is also helped by the fact that the
> > sink is illuminated by a fluorescent bulb; they tend to have more power
> > in the shorter-wavelength end of the spectrum.
> > >
> > > What do you think? :)
> > >
> > > m
> > >
> > > --
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RE: [tips] More wine...
Hmm. As red wine ages and eventually becomes vinegar it gets a reddish, or
burgundy hue to it (depending on the grape). So if I were to make it more
alkaline. Hmm.
I'm doing chemistry this weekend! With wine!
m
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From: Claudia Stanny [mailto:csta...@uwf.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:55 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] More wine...
If you have a pH thing going on, you could just add a few drops of vinegar to
see if that creates a color change (or add a bit of baking soda).
If it depends on a pH change, you could create the change in the wine glass. I
assume the sink might be more alkaline, so it would be baking soda in the wine
glass. Or you could get the wine to revert to the purple by adding some
vinegar in the sink.
Just don't drink the wine after doing this! :-)
_
Claudia J. Stanny, Ph.D.
Director
Center for University Teaching, Learning, and Assessment
Associate Professor
NSF UWF Faculty ADVANCE Scholar
School of Psychological and Behavioral Sciences
University of West Florida
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On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Marc Carter
mailto:marc.car...@bakeru.edu>> wrote:
I'll try this one -- it's easier than trying to figure the ph of the porcelain
(although that's an interesting idea and I wish I could do it). I'll get some
food coloring when I shop this weekend, and will report back what I find.
If it works, I'll be all set to celebrate. :)
Thanks, all!
m
--
Marc Carter, PhD
Associate Professor of Psychology
Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences
College of Arts & Sciences
Baker University
--
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul C Bernhardt
> [mailto:pcbernha...@frostburg.edu<mailto:pcbernha...@frostburg.edu>]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:56 PM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> Subject: Re: [tips] More wine...
>
> Possibly... now, get some red food coloring, add a little bit of blue to
> get a color similar to the wine. Then, dilute it as before and pour it
> into the sink. If you get a similar color shift, then it is probably
> color of sink rather than chemical reaction. Do the same with blue food
> coloring alone, diluted, then poured to see if it shifts to green.
>
> Paul
>
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Marc Carter wrote:
>
> > Hi again, all --
> >
> > First, thanks to those who responded. I think I've figured it out,
> but still need to work out details.
> >
> > Last night I took a few drops of wine and diluted it as much as I
> could (filled the glass as full as I could with water).
> >
> > Purplish, still. (I had an independent observer name the color for
> > me. The spouse was there, thinking, I'm sure, that I'm slightly
> mad.)
> >
> > Then I dumped it into the sink. It was bluish, not purplish.
> (Again,
> > got independent confirmation.)
> >
> > So I think that the sink is not completely white; I think it has a
> slight yellowish tint. The light reflected through the purple would
> have fewer short-wavelengths and also fewer long ones. Purple is non-
> spectral, and is gotten by combining both long- and short-wavelength
> lights. It could be that the light reflected from the sink is without
> (proportionately) more long- than short-wavelengths, and so the wine
> would appear bluish. This I think is also helped by the fact that the
> sink is illuminated by a fluorescent bulb; they tend to have more power
> in the shorter-wavelength end of the spectrum.
> >
> > What do you think? :)
> >
> > m
> >
> > --
> > Marc Carter, PhD
> > Associate Professor of Psychology
> > Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts &
> > Sciences Baker University
> > --
> >
> >
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Re: [tips] More wine...
If you have a pH thing going on, you could just add a few drops of vinegar
to see if that creates a color change (or add a bit of baking soda).
If it depends on a pH change, you could create the change in the wine
glass. I assume the sink might be more alkaline, so it would be baking
soda in the wine glass. Or you could get the wine to revert to the purple
by adding some vinegar in the sink.
Just don't drink the wine after doing this! :-)
_
Claudia J. Stanny, Ph.D.
Director
Center for University Teaching, Learning, and Assessment
Associate Professor
NSF UWF Faculty ADVANCE Scholar
School of Psychological and Behavioral Sciences
University of West Florida
11000 University Parkway
Pensacola, FL 32514 – 5751
Phone: (850) 857-6355 (direct) or 473-7435 (CUTLA)
csta...@uwf.edu
CUTLA Web Site: http://uwf.edu/cutla/
Personal Web Pages: http://uwf.edu/cstanny/website/index.htm
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Marc Carter wrote:
> I'll try this one -- it's easier than trying to figure the ph of the
> porcelain (although that's an interesting idea and I wish I could do it).
> I'll get some food coloring when I shop this weekend, and will report back
> what I find.
>
> If it works, I'll be all set to celebrate. :)
>
> Thanks, all!
>
> m
>
> --
> Marc Carter, PhD
> Associate Professor of Psychology
> Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences
> College of Arts & Sciences
> Baker University
> --
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul C Bernhardt [mailto:pcbernha...@frostburg.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:56 PM
> > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> > Subject: Re: [tips] More wine...
> >
> > Possibly... now, get some red food coloring, add a little bit of blue to
> > get a color similar to the wine. Then, dilute it as before and pour it
> > into the sink. If you get a similar color shift, then it is probably
> > color of sink rather than chemical reaction. Do the same with blue food
> > coloring alone, diluted, then poured to see if it shifts to green.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Marc Carter wrote:
> >
> > > Hi again, all --
> > >
> > > First, thanks to those who responded. I think I've figured it out,
> > but still need to work out details.
> > >
> > > Last night I took a few drops of wine and diluted it as much as I
> > could (filled the glass as full as I could with water).
> > >
> > > Purplish, still. (I had an independent observer name the color for
> > > me. The spouse was there, thinking, I'm sure, that I'm slightly
> > mad.)
> > >
> > > Then I dumped it into the sink. It was bluish, not purplish.
> > (Again,
> > > got independent confirmation.)
> > >
> > > So I think that the sink is not completely white; I think it has a
> > slight yellowish tint. The light reflected through the purple would
> > have fewer short-wavelengths and also fewer long ones. Purple is non-
> > spectral, and is gotten by combining both long- and short-wavelength
> > lights. It could be that the light reflected from the sink is without
> > (proportionately) more long- than short-wavelengths, and so the wine
> > would appear bluish. This I think is also helped by the fact that the
> > sink is illuminated by a fluorescent bulb; they tend to have more power
> > in the shorter-wavelength end of the spectrum.
> > >
> > > What do you think? :)
> > >
> > > m
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marc Carter, PhD
> > > Associate Professor of Psychology
> > > Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts &
> > > Sciences Baker University
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
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&g
RE: [tips] More wine...
I'll try this one -- it's easier than trying to figure the ph of the porcelain
(although that's an interesting idea and I wish I could do it). I'll get some
food coloring when I shop this weekend, and will report back what I find.
If it works, I'll be all set to celebrate. :)
Thanks, all!
m
--
Marc Carter, PhD
Associate Professor of Psychology
Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences
College of Arts & Sciences
Baker University
--
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul C Bernhardt [mailto:pcbernha...@frostburg.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:56 PM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> Subject: Re: [tips] More wine...
>
> Possibly... now, get some red food coloring, add a little bit of blue to
> get a color similar to the wine. Then, dilute it as before and pour it
> into the sink. If you get a similar color shift, then it is probably
> color of sink rather than chemical reaction. Do the same with blue food
> coloring alone, diluted, then poured to see if it shifts to green.
>
> Paul
>
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Marc Carter wrote:
>
> > Hi again, all --
> >
> > First, thanks to those who responded. I think I've figured it out,
> but still need to work out details.
> >
> > Last night I took a few drops of wine and diluted it as much as I
> could (filled the glass as full as I could with water).
> >
> > Purplish, still. (I had an independent observer name the color for
> > me. The spouse was there, thinking, I'm sure, that I'm slightly
> mad.)
> >
> > Then I dumped it into the sink. It was bluish, not purplish.
> (Again,
> > got independent confirmation.)
> >
> > So I think that the sink is not completely white; I think it has a
> slight yellowish tint. The light reflected through the purple would
> have fewer short-wavelengths and also fewer long ones. Purple is non-
> spectral, and is gotten by combining both long- and short-wavelength
> lights. It could be that the light reflected from the sink is without
> (proportionately) more long- than short-wavelengths, and so the wine
> would appear bluish. This I think is also helped by the fact that the
> sink is illuminated by a fluorescent bulb; they tend to have more power
> in the shorter-wavelength end of the spectrum.
> >
> > What do you think? :)
> >
> > m
> >
> > --
> > Marc Carter, PhD
> > Associate Professor of Psychology
> > Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts &
> > Sciences Baker University
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> >
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Re: [tips] More wine...
Possibly… now, get some red food coloring, add a little bit of blue to get a
color similar to the wine. Then, dilute it as before and pour it into the sink.
If you get a similar color shift, then it is probably color of sink rather than
chemical reaction. Do the same with blue food coloring alone, diluted, then
poured to see if it shifts to green.
Paul
On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Marc Carter wrote:
> Hi again, all --
>
> First, thanks to those who responded. I think I've figured it out, but still
> need to work out details.
>
> Last night I took a few drops of wine and diluted it as much as I could
> (filled the glass as full as I could with water).
>
> Purplish, still. (I had an independent observer name the color for me. The
> spouse was there, thinking, I'm sure, that I'm slightly mad.)
>
> Then I dumped it into the sink. It was bluish, not purplish. (Again, got
> independent confirmation.)
>
> So I think that the sink is not completely white; I think it has a slight
> yellowish tint. The light reflected through the purple would have fewer
> short-wavelengths and also fewer long ones. Purple is non-spectral, and is
> gotten by combining both long- and short-wavelength lights. It could be that
> the light reflected from the sink is without (proportionately) more long-
> than short-wavelengths, and so the wine would appear bluish. This I think is
> also helped by the fact that the sink is illuminated by a fluorescent bulb;
> they tend to have more power in the shorter-wavelength end of the spectrum.
>
> What do you think? :)
>
> m
>
> --
> Marc Carter, PhD
> Associate Professor of Psychology
> Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences
> College of Arts & Sciences
> Baker University
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re: [tips] More wine...
I have a couple of points: (1) You seem to be saying below that the wine turns blue because the sink is slightly yellow -- I assume it is porcelain. Since pH appears to affect the color of wine, what is the pH of porcelain or of the material lining your sink? Do you know anyone in materials science? The info on this site might be relevant: http://www.peterpugger.com/pugmill-extruder/porcelain.html (2) Get some tiles ranging in color from pure white to various shades of yellow. If you pour wine on the tiles, does the color remain constant or change? If you are correct in assuming that it is the background color interacting with the wine color, this should effectively test it. You can even vary the light source (sunlight, incandescent light, fluorescent light). If you get a publication from this, I want a co-authorship. ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu -- Original Message - On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:12:43 -0800, Marc Carter wrote: Hi again, all -- First, thanks to those who responded. I think I've figured it out, but still need to work out details. Last night I took a few drops of wine and diluted it as much as I could (filled the glass as full as I could with water). Purplish, still. (I had an independent observer name the color for me. The spouse was there, thinking, I'm sure, that I'm slightly mad.) Then I dumped it into the sink. It was bluish, not purplish. (Again, got independent confirmation.) So I think that the sink is not completely white; I think it has a slight yellowish tint. The light reflected through the purple would have fewer short-wavelengths and also fewer long ones. Purple is non-spectral, and is gotten by combining both long- and short-wavelength lights. It could be that the light reflected from the sink is without (proportionately) more long- than short-wavelengths, and so the wine would appear bluish. This I think is also helped by the fact that the sink is illuminated by a fluorescent bulb; they tend to have more power in the shorter-wavelength end of the spectrum. What do you think? :) --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=23500 or send a blank email to leave-23500-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] More wine...
I think you should try it with a blue substance that should then look
greenish, or perhaps a reddish solution that should then look orange. I
also think you should bring in an incandescent light and try it with the
wine a well as with the blue or red solution. Perhaps you should simply try
drinking white wine. OR less wine. Don't try it with beer, because it
would be a shame to waste even a drop of beer.
Carol
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Marc Carter wrote:
> Hi again, all --
>
> First, thanks to those who responded. I think I've figured it out, but
> still need to work out details.
>
> Last night I took a few drops of wine and diluted it as much as I could
> (filled the glass as full as I could with water).
>
> Purplish, still. (I had an independent observer name the color for me.
> The spouse was there, thinking, I'm sure, that I'm slightly mad.)
>
> Then I dumped it into the sink. It was bluish, not purplish. (Again, got
> independent confirmation.)
>
> So I think that the sink is not completely white; I think it has a slight
> yellowish tint. The light reflected through the purple would have fewer
> short-wavelengths and also fewer long ones. Purple is non-spectral, and is
> gotten by combining both long- and short-wavelength lights. It could be
> that the light reflected from the sink is without (proportionately) more
> long- than short-wavelengths, and so the wine would appear bluish. This I
> think is also helped by the fact that the sink is illuminated by a
> fluorescent bulb; they tend to have more power in the shorter-wavelength
> end of the spectrum.
>
> What do you think? :)
>
> m
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