DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26752] New: - java.util.ConcurrentModificationException

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java.util.ConcurrentModificationException

   Summary: java.util.ConcurrentModificationException
   Product: Tomcat 5
   Version: 5.0.18
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: Normal
  Priority: Other
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I am running standalone tomcat 5.0.18 with java 1.4.1-b2

Whenever tomcat starts, it prints out following errors and 500 replies.
It makes me reload my web app and then it runs well.

java.util.ConcurrentModificationException
at java.util.AbstractList$Itr.checkForComodification
(AbstractList.java:444)
at java.util.AbstractList$Itr.next(AbstractList.java:417)
at java.util.AbstractCollection.remove(AbstractCollection.java:250)
at org.apache.coyote.RequestGroupInfo.removeRequestProcessor
(RequestGroupInfo.java:17)
at org.apache.coyote.RequestInfo.setGlobalProcessor(RequestInfo.java:96)
at org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$MXPoolListener.threadEnd
(Http11Protocol.java:620)
at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool.removeThread
(ThreadPool.java:279)
at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run
(ThreadPool.java:727)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:536)

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 5715] - response.setContentType() in Filter.doFilter not changed content type

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response.setContentType() in Filter.doFilter not changed content type

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The Filter is setting the content type, but then the JSP is next in the pipeline
and then sets the content type overriding what was set by the filter.

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 5952] - Refence to $JAVACMD in tomcat.conf incorrect in RPM dist

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Refence to $JAVACMD  in tomcat.conf incorrect in RPM dist

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(AFAIK) The tomcat team is no longer maintaining RPMS for installations

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 5998] - Exception hiding when a JspExceptioin is thrown by a tag

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Exception hiding when a JspExceptioin is thrown by a tag

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This is fixed in later tomcat versions, wont be addressed in 4.0

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 6659] - HttpUtils.getRequestURL gives incorrect URL with web.xml redirected error pages

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HttpUtils.getRequestURL gives incorrect URL with web.xml redirected error pages

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 14:40 ---
Based on the writeup, this appears to be a bug/change in the implementation of
HttpUtils. HttpUtils lives under javax.sun.*. Because of this, tomcat team is
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 7588] - Session cannot be established if there are multiple session cookies

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Session cannot be established if there are multiple session cookies

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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 10419 ***

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 10419] - Session-ID grabbing from Request accepts invalid session cookies in presense of valid URL sessions

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Session-ID grabbing from Request accepts invalid session cookies in presense of valid 
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 8100] - Session Tracking and HttpURLConnection

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Session Tracking and HttpURLConnection

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 14:46 ---
Based on the comments and tomcats current bahavior - marking as worksforme.
Please reopen with .war file test cases against 4.1.30 (or better).

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 9107] - error in or incomplete documentation ?

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error in or incomplete documentation ?

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 14:51 ---
Please use tomcat-user for configuration help. The link is
http://www.galatea.com/flashguides/apache-tomcat-24-unix.xml is not maintained
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 9921] - JDBCRealm doesn't work with more service definition

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JDBCRealm doesn't work with more service definition

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This appears to be a configuration exercise. Please use tomcat-user list for
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 10249] - Tomcat hangs with Interclient JDBC driver

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Tomcat hangs with Interclient JDBC driver

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 14:57 ---
The latest version of tomcat 4.1 is using the newer versions of pool and dbcp.

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 10558] - encodeURL form submit doesn't include hidden form variables

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encodeURL form submit doesn't include hidden form variables

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closing based on most recent comments

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 10595] - Security Constraints not processed according to spec.

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Security Constraints not processed according to spec.

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Based on the comments, this is a spec problem/interpretation of the spec.
Closing based on Craig's comments since he very closey related to the spec team.

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 11197] - Filters and JSP.3.2

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Filters and JSP.3.2

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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 5715 ***

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 5715] - response.setContentType() in Filter.doFilter not changed content type

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 11753] - Synchronous startup script - startup.sh should wait until Tomcat is fully started

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Synchronous startup script - startup.sh should wait until Tomcat is fully started

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The statrup scripts don;t have the ability to know when tomcat is done starting
up. If this functionality is really needed - embedding tomcat would be the way
to go. Otherwise this is an enhancement request.(Which would be ignored without
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 11755] - Possible to hang new instance if old instance is not yet fully shut down

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Possible to hang new instance if old instance is not yet fully shut down

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 15:08 ---
There is a kill option in the shutdown scripts to ensure tomcat is stopped.

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26752] - java.util.ConcurrentModificationException

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java.util.ConcurrentModificationException

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 15:08 ---
The fix for this is in CVS.

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 12184] - FORM based authentication / j_security_check not working

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FORM based authentication / j_security_check not working

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 15:10 ---
This looks like a configuration exercise, please use tomcat-user list for help
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 12263] - response.sendRedirect won't send to Tomcat SSL

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response.sendRedirect won't send to Tomcat SSL

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 15:13 ---
Proabably fixed (in lastest release) based on Remy's comments. Reopen if still
problem with restatement and more detailed config.

Note: If using mod_webapp - this will be marked as WONTFIX since mod_webapp is
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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 12428] - request.getUserPrincipal(): Misinterpretation of specification?

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request.getUserPrincipal(): Misinterpretation of specification?

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 15:14 ---
Ya  - this is a problem but tomcat is compatible with the spec. (So its a spec
problem) The pricipal only needs to be set on protected URLs.

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 12428] - request.getUserPrincipal(): Misinterpretation of specification?

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doh - wrong status

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 12428] - request.getUserPrincipal(): Misinterpretation of specification?

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 15:15 ---
fix status to INVALID, not FIXED. (Sorry for the extra emails)

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26760] New: - bean:define / issue.

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bean:define / issue.

   Summary: bean:define / issue.
   Product: Tomcat 5
   Version: 5.0.18
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: Other
Status: NEW
  Severity: Normal
  Priority: Other
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Please look at this code:
---
%@ taglib uri='/WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld' prefix='bean' %

%if (1 == 1) {%
  bean:define id=tmp_caption value=tab.caption toScope=request /
%} else {%
  bean:define id=tmp_caption value=val.pluralDesc toScope=request /
%}%
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This code is not compilable by current jasper.
I know that bean:define has the following issue:

USAGE NOTE - There is a restriction in the JSP 1.1 Specification that disallows
using the same value for an id  attribute more than once in a single JSP page.
Therefore, you will not be able to use bean:define for the same bean name more
than once in a single page.

But:
This one is compiled:

%@ taglib uri='/WEB-INF/struts-bean.tld' prefix='bean' %

  bean:define id=tmp_caption value=tab.caption toScope=request /
  bean:define id=tmp_caption value=val.pluralDesc toScope=request /

can you please provide a little comment on what kind of bug this is? a jasper or
struts?

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26760] - bean:define / issue.

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 17:11 ---
I've also posted this bug against Struts component, so if you want to see their
comments - look here
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=26761

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 10419] - Session-ID grabbing from Request accepts invalid session cookies in presense of valid URL sessions

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Session-ID grabbing from Request accepts invalid session cookies in presense of valid 
URL sessions

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   |ation.java  |



--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 20:16 ---
Since the URL to the original demonstration servlet of this issue wasn't 
reachable anymore (this bug is now open for 1.5 years..), I've moved it to a 
new location. You can find it at 
  http://vicdor.org/~hzeller/SessionBugDemonstration.java 
now. 
 
While re-reading the comments after a while I noticed that referencing the 
bugs 1 and 2 in my first comment is a bit misleading since bugzilla tries to 
link to the literal number. They actually stand for the two bugs I've 
committed regarding two related aspects of faulty session handling in tomcat, 
namely Bug #10418 and this Bug #10419.

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 10418] - logic whether URL needs to be encoded in HttpServletResponse.encodeURL() broken

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-02-07 21:27 ---
Since the original SessionBugDemonstration hasn't been reachable, I've moved 
it to 
   http://vicdor.org/~hzeller/SessionBugDemonstration.java 
 
Please note, that this Bug is also related to #10419; problems with faulty 
clients like IE that may as well send invalid session IDs in cookies (see 
comments there) could be effectively thwarted if tomcat would choose to encode 
URLs in that case. 
 
I still think that the behaviour is faulty and it is still not fixed. The 
_requested_ session ID is an ID that comes from the client and might not 
necessarily be a valid ID (the browser continues to send cookies as long as it 
is not shutdown). So consider a web application that has a cookie that timed 
out. 
Later the user chooses to not accept any new cookies and enters the web 
application again. 
 
So this is not 'in the middle' of something that cookies are disabled (as Remy 
Maucherat states in comment at 2002-07-03 07:55) but between two usages of the 
same application. 
 
The web application creates a new session but gets a 'requested' session ID 
from the old cookie still lying around .. and chooses not to encode URLs based 
on that fact -- even though the session-ID it got has nothing to do with the 
session ID newly created. However, since the URLs are not encoded and the 
browser does not accept the new cookie, the application will simply not work 
because it will never see its newly creates session id again. 
 
As long as the application has not received the _first valid_ cookie from the 
browser it must encode its URLs. Every application should (conservativly) 
start encoding its URLs until it knows that it gets the session ID from the 
cookie; ITS session id, not SOME. 
 
Right now, tomcat optimistically assumes that if there is _some_ 
JSESSIONID-cookie then everything will go fine.. 
 
I had to do several workarounds in different applications already because of 
this 
(like 
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/j-wings/wings/src/org/wings/session/SessionServlet.java?annotate=1.25#385
 
) 
As application developer you often stumble over this bug when you actually 
test your application if it works with cookies enabled and disabled -- you've 
to restart your browser everytime you invalidate a session ... 
Or if you don't restart your browser that often but use it for weeks (ok, this 
is probably unlikely on windows but on Un*x I do this all the time :-) 
 
Since there is no comment that explains that this is _not_ a bug and since 
this bug actually requires to do workarounds at the application level (see 
above), I'll reopen it again. 
If you think, the solution I provided is to expensive I'll dig through the 
sources again and find another one.

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Re: Mod_Jk2 - Default Worker

2004-02-07 Thread NormW
Good morning Costin.
Thanks for the time given to replying.
I agree with the ideas you have given, of decoupling URI's from workers
explicitly tied to a communications protocol, but in reality this
connectivity is supported and actually gives the minimum workable
configuration. But given that a default architecture is but a 'guess', I see
the programming to be 'cleaner' without such defaults and rather provide a
'default' configuration file that would achieve the same end. The present
situation hides the basic building blocks of Mod_Jk2 and leads to the
majority of questions in regard to how to reconfigure the module. Remove the
ability of 'workers' to directly accept requests and force all URI's through
an lb type, and the current default approach would be entirely appropriate.

 NormW wrote:

  Good morning All.
  The default 'worker', which is hard-wired into Mod_Jk2, is 'lb:lb', and
  is, for most users I believe, a wrong guess at best, since the majority
of
  users are probably not using mod_jk2 in load-balancing mode. The 'guess'
  means that mod_jk2 creates uri objects assigned to either a
load-balancer
  that doesn't exist , a load-balancer that is not hooked into anything or
a
  load-balancer that is not even wanted. For example, the following uri's
  are created automatically:


 :-)


 I agree that lb is a missleading name, as is the whole worker concept.
 The real intent is for lb to represent one tomcat cluster ( of one or
 many servers ), and for routing to be directed to different clusters
 instead of individual machines.

 Even if you have a single tomcat - I think it is still better to make the
 mapping based on the tomcat instance, and not on the various protocols
used
 to connect.

 The overhead of having lb is very small, and IMO it's well worth it given
 the simplification in code and the extra features.

 I also think the right direction is to decouple the worker ( as a
 particular protcol to connect to a tomcat instance ) from the notion of
 routing requests to a particular instance or cluster, which may use
multipe
 protocols and workers.


 
  nameurigroup   context
   * null   null   null
   *//   lb:lb  /
Given the present arrangement, I can understand (if not support) the lb:lb
uri entry above but the one assigned to a 'null' group with a uri of 'null'
seems to be a bug.

  There is no means to determine the existence of the 'lb:lb' worker, but
  suffice to say, my setup doesn't want or need it anyway. (As an aside,
  perhaps this might be an extension to /jkstatus/ ?)

 I think the code created the lb:lb automatically unless one is defined
 exeplicitely. The goal was to have each tomcat instance ( or cluster )
 associated with an lb, with a reasonable default to minimize trivial
 configuration.

 Then each lb would have one or multiple protocols pointing at different
 tomcat instances.


  A more valid approach would be to identify, via the workers2.properties
  file, which worker of those configured is to be considered the
'default'.
  It would also become the 'default' worker/group for [uri] sections not
  having a worker/group entry when created, and a variation of the
JkUriSet
  parameter could also allow use of the 'default' worker, for example:

 
 JkUriSet   worker  default
 
  The existing code makes allowance for a defaultWorker property in the
  [workerEnv] section of memory, and I would like to submit the attached
  [patch
  as a step in such an arrangement. If this option isn't used within the
  workers2.properties file, then the module reverts to current operation.
  The parameter proposed would look as follows and retain the current
  default for wEnv-defaultWorker:

 I'm not very comfortable with this ( I'm close to -1, but if other people
 think it's a good idea I can change it to -0).
As noted, the proposed patch subtracts nothing from the present position,
while allowing access to the parameter if required.

 It kinds of moves us backwards, to the mess of protocols and load
balancers.
Architecturally, Mod_Jk2 isn't a 'mess' by any description, it has mostly
been rendered incomprehensible by hiding it's few building blocks.

 I'm ok with any renaming or clarification or defaults - as long as we keep
 or increase the current separation between protocols ( i.e. ajp-like
 workers ) and clusters/instances - or however you want to call the
 lb-like workers.
That tie-up exists because the worker name was derived from the protocol.
Ideally the protocol should have been in the channel, leaving the 'worker'
to handle _a_ request, and lb to decide which worker to get it... assuming
there is more than one Tomcat to receive it. However, it still doesn't make
much sense to have a balancer capability in front of a single worker.

 All mapping should be made between URIs and lb ( clusters/instances ), and
 each lb can have multiple protocols ( ajp ) associated. It would be great
 if we just create a separate interface to make it clear 

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Good morning Costin.
Thanks for the time given to replying.
I agree with the ideas you have given, of decoupling URI's from workers
explicitly tied to a communications protocol, but in reality this
connectivity is supported and actually gives the minimum workable
configuration. But given that a default architecture is but a 'guess', I see
the programming to be 'cleaner' without such defaults and rather provide a
'default' configuration file that would achieve the same end. The present
situation hides the basic building blocks of Mod_Jk2 and leads to the
majority of questions in regard to how to reconfigure the module. Remove the
ability of 'workers' to directly accept requests and force all URI's through
an lb type, and the current default approach would be entirely appropriate.

 NormW wrote:

  Good morning All.
  The default 'worker', which is hard-wired into Mod_Jk2, is 'lb:lb', and
  is, for most users I believe, a wrong guess at best, since the majority
of
  users are probably not using mod_jk2 in load-balancing mode. The 'guess'
  means that mod_jk2 creates uri objects assigned to either a
load-balancer
  that doesn't exist , a load-balancer that is not hooked into anything or
a
  load-balancer that is not even wanted. For example, the following uri's
  are created automatically:


 :-)


 I agree that lb is a missleading name, as is the whole worker concept.
 The real intent is for lb to represent one tomcat cluster ( of one or
 many servers ), and for routing to be directed to different clusters
 instead of individual machines.

 Even if you have a single tomcat - I think it is still better to make the
 mapping based on the tomcat instance, and not on the various protocols
used
 to connect.

 The overhead of having lb is very small, and IMO it's well worth it given
 the simplification in code and the extra features.

 I also think the right direction is to decouple the worker ( as a
 particular protcol to connect to a tomcat instance ) from the notion of
 routing requests to a particular instance or cluster, which may use
multipe
 protocols and workers.


 
  nameurigroup   context
   * null   null   null
   *//   lb:lb  /
Given the present arrangement, I can understand (if not support) the lb:lb
uri entry above but the one assigned to a 'null' group with a uri of 'null'
seems to be a bug.

  There is no means to determine the existence of the 'lb:lb' worker, but
  suffice to say, my setup doesn't want or need it anyway. (As an aside,
  perhaps this might be an extension to /jkstatus/ ?)

 I think the code created the lb:lb automatically unless one is defined
 exeplicitely. The goal was to have each tomcat instance ( or cluster )
 associated with an lb, with a reasonable default to minimize trivial
 configuration.

 Then each lb would have one or multiple protocols pointing at different
 tomcat instances.


  A more valid approach would be to identify, via the workers2.properties
  file, which worker of those configured is to be considered the
'default'.
  It would also become the 'default' worker/group for [uri] sections not
  having a worker/group entry when created, and a variation of the
JkUriSet
  parameter could also allow use of the 'default' worker, for example:

 
 JkUriSet   worker  default
 
  The existing code makes allowance for a defaultWorker property in the
  [workerEnv] section of memory, and I would like to submit the attached
  [patch
  as a step in such an arrangement. If this option isn't used within the
  workers2.properties file, then the module reverts to current operation.
  The parameter proposed would look as follows and retain the current
  default for wEnv-defaultWorker:

 I'm not very comfortable with this ( I'm close to -1, but if other people
 think it's a good idea I can change it to -0).
As noted, the proposed patch subtracts nothing from the present position,
while 

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Thanks for the time given to replying.
I agree with the ideas you have given, of decoupling URI's from workers
explicitly tied to a communications protocol, but in reality this
connectivity is supported and actually gives the minimum workable
configuration. But given that a default architecture is but a 'guess', I see
the programming to be 'cleaner' without such defaults and rather provide a
'default' configuration file that would achieve the same end. The present
situation hides the basic building blocks of Mod_Jk2 and leads to the
majority of questions in regard to how to reconfigure the module. Remove the
ability of 'workers' to directly accept requests and force all URI's through
an lb type, and the current default approach would be entirely appropriate.

 NormW wrote:

  Good morning All.
  The default 'worker', which is hard-wired into Mod_Jk2, is 'lb:lb', and
  is, for most users I believe, a wrong guess at best, since the majority
of
  users are probably not using mod_jk2 in load-balancing mode. The 'guess'
  means that mod_jk2 creates uri objects assigned to either a
load-balancer
  that doesn't exist , a load-balancer that is not hooked into anything or
a
  load-balancer that is not even wanted. For example, the following uri's
  are created automatically:


 :-)


 I agree that lb is a missleading name, as is the whole worker concept.
 The real intent is for lb to represent one tomcat cluster ( of one or
 many servers ), and for routing to be directed to different clusters
 instead of individual machines.

 Even if you have a single tomcat - I think it is still better to make the
 mapping based on the tomcat instance, and not on the various protocols
used
 to connect.

 The overhead of having lb is very small, and IMO it's well worth it given
 the simplification in code and the extra features.

 I also think the right direction is to decouple the worker ( as a
 particular protcol to connect to a tomcat instance ) from the notion of
 routing requests to a particular instance or cluster, which may use
multipe
 protocols and workers.


 
  nameurigroup   context
   * null   null   null
   *//   lb:lb  /
Given the present arrangement, I can understand (if not support) the lb:lb
uri entry above but the one assigned to a 'null' group with a uri of 'null'
seems to be a bug.

  There is no means to determine the existence of the 'lb:lb' worker, but
  suffice to say, my setup doesn't want or need it anyway. (As an aside,
  perhaps this might be an extension to /jkstatus/ ?)

 I think the code created the lb:lb automatically unless one is defined
 exeplicitely. The goal was to have each tomcat instance ( or cluster )
 associated with an lb, with a reasonable default to minimize trivial
 configuration.

 Then each lb would have one or 

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Thanks for the time given to replying.
I agree with the ideas you have given, of decoupling URI's from workers
explicitly tied to a communications protocol, but in reality this
connectivity is supported and actually gives the minimum workable
configuration. But given that a default architecture is but a 'guess', I see
the programming to be 'cleaner' without such defaults and rather provide a
'default' configuration file that would achieve the same end. The present
situation hides the basic building blocks of Mod_Jk2 and leads to the
majority of questions in regard to how to reconfigure the module. Remove the
ability of 'workers' to directly accept requests and force all URI's through
an lb type, and the current default approach would be entirely appropriate.

 NormW wrote:

  Good morning All.
  The default 'worker', which is hard-wired into Mod_Jk2, is 'lb:lb', and
  is, for most users I believe, a wrong guess at best, since the majority
of
  users are probably not using mod_jk2 in load-balancing mode. The 'guess'
  means that mod_jk2 creates uri objects assigned to either a
load-balancer
  that doesn't exist , a load-balancer that is not hooked into anything or
a
  load-balancer that is not even wanted. For example, the following uri's
  are created automatically:


 :-)


 I agree that lb is a missleading name, as is the whole worker concept.
 The real intent is for lb to represent one tomcat cluster ( of one or
 many servers ), and for routing to be directed to different clusters
 instead of individual machines.

 Even if you have a single tomcat - I think it is still better to make the
 mapping based on the tomcat instance, and not on the various protocols
used
 to connect.

 The overhead of having lb is very small, 

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Thanks for the time given to replying.
I agree with the ideas you have given, of decoupling URI's from workers
explicitly tied to a communications protocol, but in reality this
connectivity is supported and actually gives the minimum workable
configuration. But given that a default architecture is but a 'guess', I see
the programming to be 'cleaner' without such defaults and rather provide a
'default' configuration file that would achieve the same end. The present
situation hides the basic building blocks of Mod_Jk2 and leads to the
majority of questions in regard to how to reconfigure the module. Remove the
ability of 'workers' to directly accept requests and force all URI's through
an lb type, and the current default approach would be entirely appropriate.

 NormW wrote:

  Good morning All.
  The default 'worker', which is hard-wired into Mod_Jk2, is 'lb:lb', and
  is, for most users I believe, a wrong guess at best, since the majority
of
  users are probably not using mod_jk2 in load-balancing mode.