Re: Jakarta PMC Meeting Agenda / Info - What happens if a 3.3 proposal getsa -1

2001-01-16 Thread Sam Ruby

Hans Bersten wrote:

 Unless another committer can convince whoever votes
 -1 to change his vote, it means that 3.3 will not
 happen. Instead we will continue to maintain the
 3.x code base based on 3.2.1. That's how decision
 making is defined for this project, see

 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/decisions.html

That may be how it is defined, but we need to find a way to make it work.

Two conflicting goals: the burden of proof needs to be on the one proposing
to change the status quo, and we can't permit -1's that simply are raised
to prohibit forward progress.

- Sam Ruby


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Re: Jakarta PMC Meeting Agenda / Info - What happens if a 3.3 proposal getsa -1

2001-01-16 Thread Hans Bergsten

Sam Ruby wrote:
 
 Hans Bersten wrote:
 
  Unless another committer can convince whoever votes
  -1 to change his vote, it means that 3.3 will not
  happen. Instead we will continue to maintain the
  3.x code base based on 3.2.1. That's how decision
  making is defined for this project, see
 
  http://jakarta.apache.org/site/decisions.html
 
 That may be how it is defined, but we need to find a way to make it work.
 
 Two conflicting goals: the burden of proof needs to be on the one proposing
 to change the status quo, and we can't permit -1's that simply are raised
 to prohibit forward progress.

Right, we need to talk about this (and a few other things in our
bylaws and guidelines) at the meeting today.

Hans
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