RE: Minimalistic Docs

2002-01-17 Thread Micael Padraig Og mac Grene

At 09:56 AM 1/17/02 +0200, you wrote:
well, minimal meaning 1c and minimalist meaning 2 (below) look pretty similar
to me, but as Tom says, the latter suggests intent. Then again, the fact that
it is in the title also does a fair job suggesting intent. Let's just steer
away from anything pretentious. I vote for minimalist.

http://www.dictionary.com - great resource!

enough of this :)

ant

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  From: Tomas Rokicki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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  Well, if you believe dictionaries:
 
  minimal:  adj.
  1a Smallest in amount or degree.
  1b Small in amount or degree.
  1c Only barely adequate.
  2 often Minimal Of, relating to, or being minimalism
 
  minimalist: n.
  1 One who advocates a moderate or conservative approach, action, or policy,
  as in a political or governmental organization.
  2 A practitioner of minimalism.
 
  minimalist: adj.
  1 Of, relating to, characteristic of, or in the style of minimalism.
  2 Being or providing a bare minimum of what is necessary.
 
  So minimal is clearly not what we mean, but the second adjective definition
  is clearly what we mean.  So minimalist seems to work.  Minimalistic is
  clearly not a word.  Minimal means, and further, connotes, the wrong
  thing.
 
  Don't techies ever use dictionaries?
 
  -tom
 
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  From: Arnold Shore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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  And a minimalistic use of Minimalistic would be Minimal.
 
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  From: Christopher K. St. John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:47 PM
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  Anthony Holland wrote:
  
   Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide
  
   There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.
  
 
 
   In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
   In the style of a minimalist.
   Minimalistic.
 
   Works for me.
 
   Minimalist User's Guide would imply that the user's
  guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
  while Minimalistic implies that the guide is in the
  style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.
 
   A Minimalist's Guide might work.
 

What are you two talking about?  The connotation, as well as the 
denotation, of something, by the way, IS its meaning.  If you are using 
A  Minimalist's Guide as the name of a publication, your English is 
wrong.  In that case, Minimalist's is a nominative-adjective and it 
should be A Minimalists Guide.  This is a standard mistake, usually not 
made by good sign companies, however.  Also, the conclusions you draw about 
Minimalist User's Guide (should be Minimalist Users Guide) and A 
Minimalist's Guide (should be A Minimalists Guide) are backward.  The 
latter could be a use of the noun, although that would be unlikely, while 
the former could not be such a use.

You guys have too much time on your hands, like me.  ;-)

How about, if you want not to be pedantic, An Austere Guide?  Of course, 
I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Micael



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Minimalistic Docs

2002-01-16 Thread Anthony Holland

Hi,

From jakarta-tomcat-3.2\doc\uguide\tomcat_ug.html

Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide

There is no such word as 'minimalistic'. The adjective is 'minimalist', and
probably in this case, simply 'minimal' would be even better.

Ant

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Re: Minimalistic Docs

2002-01-16 Thread Christopher K. St. John

Anthony Holland wrote:
 
 Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide
 
 There is no such word as 'minimalistic'. 



 In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
 In the style of a minimalist.
 Minimalistic.

 Works for me.

 Minimalist User's Guide would imply that the user's
guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
while Minimalistic implies that the guide is in the
style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.

 A Minimalist's Guide might work.

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RE: Minimalistic Docs

2002-01-16 Thread Arnold Shore

And a minimalistic use of Minimalistic would be Minimal.

as

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Anthony Holland wrote:

 Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide

 There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.



 In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
 In the style of a minimalist.
 Minimalistic.

 Works for me.

 Minimalist User's Guide would imply that the user's
guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
while Minimalistic implies that the guide is in the
style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.

 A Minimalist's Guide might work.

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RE: Minimalistic Docs

2002-01-16 Thread Tomas Rokicki

Oops; different dictionaries disagree on the possible
meanings of minimalist.  Sorry.  (My OED is at home.)

-tom

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And a minimalistic use of Minimalistic would be Minimal.

as

-Original Message-
From: Christopher K. St. John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Minimalistic Docs


Anthony Holland wrote:

 Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide

 There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.



 In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
 In the style of a minimalist.
 Minimalistic.

 Works for me.

 Minimalist User's Guide would imply that the user's
guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
while Minimalistic implies that the guide is in the
style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.

 A Minimalist's Guide might work.

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RE: Minimalistic Docs

2002-01-16 Thread Tomas Rokicki

Well, if you believe dictionaries:

minimal:  adj.
1a Smallest in amount or degree.
1b Small in amount or degree.
1c Only barely adequate.
2 often Minimal Of, relating to, or being minimalism

minimalist: n.
1 One who advocates a moderate or conservative approach, action, or policy,
as in a political or governmental organization.
2 A practitioner of minimalism.

minimalist: adj.
1 Of, relating to, characteristic of, or in the style of minimalism.
2 Being or providing a bare minimum of what is necessary.

So minimal is clearly not what we mean, but the second adjective definition
is clearly what we mean.  So minimalist seems to work.  Minimalistic is
clearly not a word.  Minimal means, and further, connotes, the wrong
thing.

Don't techies ever use dictionaries?

-tom

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From: Arnold Shore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:15 AM
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Subject: RE: Minimalistic Docs


And a minimalistic use of Minimalistic would be Minimal.

as

-Original Message-
From: Christopher K. St. John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: Re: Minimalistic Docs


Anthony Holland wrote:

 Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide

 There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.



 In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
 In the style of a minimalist.
 Minimalistic.

 Works for me.

 Minimalist User's Guide would imply that the user's
guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
while Minimalistic implies that the guide is in the
style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.

 A Minimalist's Guide might work.

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RE: Minimalistic Docs

2002-01-16 Thread Anthony Holland

well, minimal meaning 1c and minimalist meaning 2 (below) look pretty similar
to me, but as Tom says, the latter suggests intent. Then again, the fact that
it is in the title also does a fair job suggesting intent. Let's just steer
away from anything pretentious. I vote for minimalist.

http://www.dictionary.com - great resource!

enough of this :)

ant

 -Original Message-
 From: Tomas Rokicki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:17 PM
 To: Tomcat Developers List
 Subject: RE: Minimalistic Docs


 Well, if you believe dictionaries:

 minimal:  adj.
 1a Smallest in amount or degree.
 1b Small in amount or degree.
 1c Only barely adequate.
 2 often Minimal Of, relating to, or being minimalism

 minimalist: n.
 1 One who advocates a moderate or conservative approach, action, or policy,
 as in a political or governmental organization.
 2 A practitioner of minimalism.

 minimalist: adj.
 1 Of, relating to, characteristic of, or in the style of minimalism.
 2 Being or providing a bare minimum of what is necessary.

 So minimal is clearly not what we mean, but the second adjective definition
 is clearly what we mean.  So minimalist seems to work.  Minimalistic is
 clearly not a word.  Minimal means, and further, connotes, the wrong
 thing.

 Don't techies ever use dictionaries?

 -tom

 -Original Message-
 From: Arnold Shore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:15 AM
 To: Tomcat Developers List
 Subject: RE: Minimalistic Docs


 And a minimalistic use of Minimalistic would be Minimal.

 as

 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher K. St. John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:47 PM
 To: Tomcat Developers List
 Subject: Re: Minimalistic Docs


 Anthony Holland wrote:
 
  Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide
 
  There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.
 


  In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
  In the style of a minimalist.
  Minimalistic.

  Works for me.

  Minimalist User's Guide would imply that the user's
 guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
 while Minimalistic implies that the guide is in the
 style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.

  A Minimalist's Guide might work.

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