Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace?
Humm. Are the examples Tomcat specific or should they work in any JSP2.0 and Servlet 2.4 container? If they are generic then perhaps keeping them separate would encourage their reuse with other JSP/Servlet projects. Shouldn't every jsp server have a decent Snoop.jsp ? Cheers, -bob On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 16:47, Mark Roth wrote: It would be great to restore the examples (both JSP and Servlet) so that they are deployed on startup and so they are easily accessible. In the current build they are broken links. I also would like to commit a number of additional JSP examples that illustrate the new features in JSP 2.0. The default web application that is deployed on startup currently lives in the catalina workspace. I have no problems keeping it there, but before committing such a change I wanted to take a vote on where we think the examples should live. Vote: [ ] A. jakarta-tomcat-catalina [ ] B. jakarta-tomcat-jasper [ ] C. jakarta-tomcat-5 -- Mark Roth, Java Software Co-Specification Lead for JSP 2.0 Sun Microsystems, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, -bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace?
The examples, just as in Tomcat 4, are small, portable JSP / Servlet examples to illustrate how to use these technologies. Because Tomcat forms the basis of the RI for Servlet/JSP, and because it is so easy to use, many developers download it to try their hand at Servlet/JSP development. I thought it was great how Tomcat 4 provided a set of pre-deployed examples, ready to go as soon as the server starts up. We should continue this for Tomcat 5 (right now the examples links are broken). The only question is which workspace to keep them in. Vote: [ ] A. jakarta-tomcat-catalina [ ] B. jakarta-tomcat-jasper [ ] C. jakarta-tomcat-5 - Mark On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 09:40, Bob Herrmann wrote: Humm. Are the examples Tomcat specific or should they work in any JSP2.0 and Servlet 2.4 container? If they are generic then perhaps keeping them separate would encourage their reuse with other JSP/Servlet projects. Shouldn't every jsp server have a decent Snoop.jsp ? Cheers, -bob On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 16:47, Mark Roth wrote: It would be great to restore the examples (both JSP and Servlet) so that they are deployed on startup and so they are easily accessible. In the current build they are broken links. I also would like to commit a number of additional JSP examples that illustrate the new features in JSP 2.0. The default web application that is deployed on startup currently lives in the catalina workspace. I have no problems keeping it there, but before committing such a change I wanted to take a vote on where we think the examples should live. Vote: [ ] A. jakarta-tomcat-catalina [ ] B. jakarta-tomcat-jasper [ ] C. jakarta-tomcat-5 -- Mark Roth, Java Software Co-Specification Lead for JSP 2.0 Sun Microsystems, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, -bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Roth, Java Software Sun Microsystems, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace?
Mark Roth wrote: It would be great to restore the examples (both JSP and Servlet) so that they are deployed on startup and so they are easily accessible. In the current build they are broken links. I also would like to commit a number of additional JSP examples that illustrate the new features in JSP 2.0. The default web application that is deployed on startup currently lives in the catalina workspace. I have no problems keeping it there, but before committing such a change I wanted to take a vote on where we think the examples should live. Vote: [ ] A. jakarta-tomcat-catalina [ ] B. jakarta-tomcat-jasper [ ] C. jakarta-tomcat-5 The examples are portable and independent of Tomcat, so I want them to go into jakarta-servletapi-5. I posted some time ago about that, and I was planning to do it. Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace?
I'm open to that possibility, as long as we're able to have then automatically deployed in Tomcat 5 builds. Vote: [ ] A. jakarta-tomcat-catalina [ ] B. jakarta-tomcat-jasper [ ] C. jakarta-tomcat-5 [X] D. jakarta-servletapi-5 Given JB and Remy's comments, I change my vote to 'D'. So that's 2 D's. - Mark On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 11:42, Remy Maucherat wrote: Mark Roth wrote: It would be great to restore the examples (both JSP and Servlet) so that they are deployed on startup and so they are easily accessible. In the current build they are broken links. I also would like to commit a number of additional JSP examples that illustrate the new features in JSP 2.0. The default web application that is deployed on startup currently lives in the catalina workspace. I have no problems keeping it there, but before committing such a change I wanted to take a vote on where we think the examples should live. Vote: [ ] A. jakarta-tomcat-catalina [ ] B. jakarta-tomcat-jasper [ ] C. jakarta-tomcat-5 The examples are portable and independent of Tomcat, so I want them to go into jakarta-servletapi-5. I posted some time ago about that, and I was planning to do it. Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace?
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 11:42, Remy Maucherat wrote: Mark Roth wrote: It would be great to restore the examples (both JSP and Servlet) so that they are deployed on startup and so they are easily accessible. In the current build they are broken links. I also would like to commit a number of additional JSP examples that illustrate the new features in JSP 2.0. The default web application that is deployed on startup currently lives in the catalina workspace. I have no problems keeping it there, but before committing such a change I wanted to take a vote on where we think the examples should live. Vote: [ ] A. jakarta-tomcat-catalina [ ] B. jakarta-tomcat-jasper [ ] C. jakarta-tomcat-5 The examples are portable and independent of Tomcat, so I want them to go into jakarta-servletapi-5. I posted some time ago about that, and I was planning to do it. Remy jakarta-servletapi-5 sounds much better than A, B, or C. Cheers, -bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace?
Mark Roth wrote: I'm open to that possibility, as long as we're able to have then automatically deployed in Tomcat 5 builds. Yes, I was planning to do that of course. The webapps will be built by the scripts from the jakarta-servletapi-5 repository, and the result will be copied to the webapps folder by the main Tomcat script. I just got a bit lazy after finishing the repackaging in j-s-5, and thought I would do it the next day :-D Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace?
Remy, Remy Maucherat wrote: I just got a bit lazy after finishing the repackaging in j-s-5, and thought I would do it the next day :-D I don't think it is lazy to put this off. Instead, I think we are all trying to tackle higher priority issues first. Speaking of higher priority issues, I would vote for resolving the getHeaders() problem since they are causing Watchdog failures. Are you and Costin comfortable with Steve Downey's latest proposal (headers are split on , for only the headers explicitly defined in the HTTP/1.1 specification)? Patrick -- Patrick Luby Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems Phone: 408-276-7471 901 San Antonio Road, USCA14-303 Palo Alto, CA 94303-4900 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace?
Patrick Luby wrote: Remy, Remy Maucherat wrote: I just got a bit lazy after finishing the repackaging in j-s-5, and thought I would do it the next day :-D I don't think it is lazy to put this off. Instead, I think we are all trying to tackle higher priority issues first. Speaking of higher priority issues, I would vote for resolving the getHeaders() problem since they are causing Watchdog failures. Are you and Costin comfortable with Steve Downey's latest proposal (headers are split on , for only the headers explicitly defined in the HTTP/1.1 specification)? No, doing that for getHeaders would cause problems, as pointed out by Costin. I'm not convinced anymore the test is valid at all, after reading Costin's arguments. Strong -1 on changing the behavior of getHeader, but I could be talked into implementing comma-parsing for getHeaders if you can prove Costin was wrong. Remy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace?
Regarding examples/: One think I would like to see is removal of all webapp-related config from server.xml, and moving it to webapps/examples.xml ( there is already code to support it ). Not sure how it would work with the current jmx code ( the saving part), but hopefully that will be replaced with the jndi stuff and it will be even easier this way. A second issue is related with the startup order/sequence. I'll send a separate proposal with the details - I don't expect it to be implemented very soon and is not a big priority, but nice to have before releasing and nice to have agreement on it before. Costin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace? NEW?
On August 20, 2002 11:42 am, you wrote: The examples are portable and independent of Tomcat, so I want them to go into jakarta-servletapi-5. I posted some time ago about that, and I was planning to do it. Maybe a separate cvs repo? jakarta-servlet-examples? Before I started getting involved I never bothered to download the servlet-api download because I knew the container would provide something I could compile against. Maybe they would not be as visible if packaged inside servlet-api? At the very least it should be built as a separate self-contained examples.war file that can just be auto-deployed in any compliant container. Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VOTE: Restoring Tomcat examples: Which workspace?
Vote: [X] A. jakarta-tomcat-catalina [ ] B. jakarta-tomcat-jasper [ ] C. jakarta-tomcat-5 Incidentally, my vote is A, but I'm flexible. - Mark On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 16:47, Mark Roth wrote: It would be great to restore the examples (both JSP and Servlet) so that they are deployed on startup and so they are easily accessible. In the current build they are broken links. I also would like to commit a number of additional JSP examples that illustrate the new features in JSP 2.0. The default web application that is deployed on startup currently lives in the catalina workspace. I have no problems keeping it there, but before committing such a change I wanted to take a vote on where we think the examples should live. Vote: [ ] A. jakarta-tomcat-catalina [ ] B. jakarta-tomcat-jasper [ ] C. jakarta-tomcat-5 -- Mark Roth, Java Software Co-Specification Lead for JSP 2.0 Sun Microsystems, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
