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Schnitzer, Jeff wrote:
 For whatever reason, be it the seed algorithm or the hashing algorithm
 or something else that degenerates the randomness - the duplicate
 session ID problem is very, very common.
 
 I discovered this problem because a few of our users suddenly found
 themselves with the sessions from administrative accounts.  Luckily they
 alerted us instead of causing mayhem.  There were at least three
 separate occasions of this in the last week - that we heard about.
 
 We have also seen this a number of times with other game components -
 users suddenly finding themselves logged in as other people.
 
 It probably explains the recent post to tomcat-user included below.
 
 Here at my company this problem caused about as much panic as a wildfire
 breaking out in the machine room (read: LOTS).  I humbly suggest raising
 the level of concern a bit; post a security bulletin, etc.

We have to make sure the problem is real before putting out any 
advisory. You should patch the ManagerBase class to the latest version 
to see if it helps (compile the latest version, and put it in 
$CATALINA_HOME/server/classes/org/apache/catalina/session). A compiled 
version is attached to this email if you can't get it easily.

However:
- We did not have any reports before 4.1.18 that the algorithm used was 
weak; it was actually believed it was not, and it had been around for a 
long time (I do not believe it was touched at all for months).
- A MD5 hash occurs after getting the SecureRandom. This looks like a 
mistake, and decreases the quality of the random a lot, but given the 
quality of MD5, that shouldn't be noticeable in the real world.
- If collisions *do* actyually happen, then it is a security problem and 
the patch to the StandardManager should fix it. However, it would also 
indicate that the ids generated can likely be guessed by an attacker, so 
we also have to fix the algorithm.

Remy

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After setting up a JNDIRealm for the Manager app, I noticed after a
while the connection times out and returns NULL automatically.  I was
wondering, if instead of returning NULL, JNDIRealm to try to reconnect
and then authenticate, and then return NULL, if a failure results from
that attempt, otherwise return the JNDIRealm.User object.
 
Also I've notice there is no method for specifying an alternate
connection URL in the event the URL specified in connectionURL is not
available.  So, I took the liberty of adding an attribute alternateURL
to specify a secondary URL.  When the JNDIRealm opens a connection it
will attempt the primary, and, upon failure, then attempt to connect to
the alternate URL.  If this should fail, the JNDIRealm fails as it did
before.
 
In both features the first exception is logged before the second attempt
to connect proceeds.
 
I have attached the CVS diff between my copy of JNDIRealm and the
current HEAD version of JNDIRealm.
 
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Costin Manolache wrote:
 
 Could you make a small modification and run the same test with
 20 concurent threads ? I checked the code and we have plenty of 
 syncs, but you never know.

OK -- for this I went to the horse's (or maybe I should say, cat's) 
mouth with the same result -- collisions still look very unlikely.
Here is what I did (using unpatched tomcat 4.1.18, Sun's linux JDK 
1.3.1_03):

1. Put a jsp that does nothing but get a session and then invalidate it 
(sessionTest.jsp) in /webapps/examples;
2. Set up a jmeter test with 20 threads, no delay, hitting 
sessionTest.jsp 500 times each (SessionTest.jmx);
3. grep 'Created' localhost_examples_log.date.txt  sessions.txt;
4. Run DispersionCheck.java (attached) to grab the generated session 
IDs from sessions.txt and do the comparisons as before.

Output is attached as DispersionCheckOut.txt.  Note that among the 
199,990,000 pairs of session ID's examined, none agreed in more than 13 
of 32 hex digits.

BTW, I noticed that in my original tests, I was only comparing the first 
half of the strings (forgot that the hex conversion doubles the length - 
DOH!).  I have attached a corrected version of the standalone program 
DispersionCheck.java that does all of the comparisons and compares the 
distribution to B(32,1/16) instead of B(16,1/16). Results are as expected.

-Phil

 
 I did check the code and it looks ok - plenty of synchronized() blocks.
 But who knows ?

If there is a problem, it could be protection, not just 
synchronization (which just guarantees serialization).  I notice that 
the valid flag is used to protect sessions from being updated while they 
are expiring, etc.  I posted a (probably insignificant) bug report a 
couple of weeks ago 
(http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15746) indicating 
that a session being recycled could in theory have attributes added by 
other threads still holding references to it between the time that its 
attributes are cleared and when its isValid flag is set to false.  The 
result would be that a dirty session would be reused.

I have been trying to make this (or other similar things) to happen 
using jmeter tests to no avail; but I will keep trying.

 
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