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On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 08:04:57AM -0800, t t wrote: Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? The answer is it depends, mostly on your site, your goals, your resources, etc. In general, I recommend substituting brains for money. Even if you have money, smart applications of money will gain you much more in return than the brute-force approach. For example, your site is almost certainly specific to some particular demographic. Odds are that you or somebody else connected with your site fits your site demographic, or at least knows something about them, otherwise you wouldn't have the site. Figure out what that demographic is, and then figure out where they hang out online. If you can't do it yourself, hire some college kid (ideally one who's already fanatic for your site topic) to surf the web for minimum wage and figure out avenues for you to promote your site. Always, always always include your domain name on everything you send out, by email, by paper, whatever. Don't spam, of course, but don't miss any opportunity to append that one-line domain name. Pursue involvement and maybe even advertising. Some online forums and communities have specific forums or lists for announcements of services or products. Others might allow advertising banners - do targeted ad buys -- but ONLY on community sites relevant to your site. Participate in mailing lists. Produce or acquire content for your site that they'll find useful. Try to develop a strong sense of brand identity for your site, so people remember what you're about. You want people to see your domain name and think of something specific. For example, if your site sells towels sheets pillowcases and such: Do you want people to see your name and think luxury, high-quality towels sheets? Or do you want them to think affordable? Or do you want them to think a little bit of both - good stuff for a good price? Or do you want them to think incredible variety, they have every color and print under the sun? Or do you want them to think really special stuff, if you want something special, unique and interesting that's the place to go look for it? Everybody wants to be all things to all people, but you have to decide what strength to play to. The more focused your message, the more powerful. Search engine optimization in general strikes me as bullshit. Either you have something valid to offer, or you don't. If you don't, trying to game the system is not going to get you anywhere. That said, while search engine optimization may not be real, search engine pessimization certainly is. You can do a lot of things wrong to gum up how well search engines will find your site. Do some reading on the topic and use some common sense. Hit all of the major search engine sites and read what *they* have to tell you on the topic. I know of a one person who offers consulting on making your site search-accessible, not by trying to game the search engines, but by trying to figure out what people are searching for, using statistical analysis of common searches and generating variations of your site. That might be worth looking into if you want to spend some dollars. Or you could try faking it yourself - generate a bunch of different variations on your site and analyze your logs and see which ones get more traffic. Think about why they do. One key point - barring a few specific niches, snazzy graphics and flash animations do NOT bring in business. Think about who your user is, how they got to your site, why they're there, what they want to do - and make sure you make it as easy as possible to do it. If your site gets mostly first-time users, or mostly repeat visitors, it affects what your site design priorities should be. I'm constantly amazed at how hard people want to make you work to buy things from them. A good example is Amazon. They do some things wrong, some things well, IMHO. Some of them are blindingly obvious (one-click my ass), others are pretty obvious but still lots of people don't do it. As an example Amazon has great selection and all, but I have a soft spot in my heart for The Tattered Cover out of Denver. I used to shop there when I lived in Denver, and they recently fought and won a court case over privacy rights. The police wanted them to turn over a list of a customer's purchases and they refused, took it to court and won. I vote with my dollars, so I try to buy from The Tattered Cover. But Tattered Cover's site (which runs on java, btw) doesn't give me any way to bookmark a search result. This is a pain in the ass, and just one of several way their site could be easier to use. This is generally true for many, many sites. It kills me how often I get to a site and I have to jump through all sorts of hoops to see what I can buy there. The very first page of the site should be giving me an
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This is why you will need someone who is dedicated to keeping up with trends and rules of search engines. They change to close loop holes, and close down tricks. From: Peter Crowther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:35:04 - From: Didier McGillis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] One trick that I know of and requires some software. Is to setup 4 to 5 sites filled with links back to your pages, and similar content, and of course you link to those sites. If Google notice you spamming the index in this way then they reserve the right not to list your site. Also, it appears they're now autodetecting the IP addresses of the 'copy' sites and are reducing the ranking of sites that are hosted at the same IP. So if you *are* going to risk this, you'll need sites hosted with different people. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So if a group of say Tomcat uses all traded some simple html pages with each others links we could in fact beat the system and for free (as in beer). Doug - Original Message - From: Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:20 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website This is why you will need someone who is dedicated to keeping up with trends and rules of search engines. They change to close loop holes, and close down tricks. From: Peter Crowther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:35:04 - From: Didier McGillis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] One trick that I know of and requires some software. Is to setup 4 to 5 sites filled with links back to your pages, and similar content, and of course you link to those sites. If Google notice you spamming the index in this way then they reserve the right not to list your site. Also, it appears they're now autodetecting the IP addresses of the 'copy' sites and are reducing the ranking of sites that are hosted at the same IP. So if you *are* going to risk this, you'll need sites hosted with different people. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If I remember correctly and somone who has been more involved with me more then this can tell me right or wrong. The key on that is you have to have similar keywords and content. FOr example a company I used to work for is really into this, and they have had great results. They have 18 micro-sites, or sites that are keyword intensive, resouce/information pages that are seperate domains, they have links from their main site to all of these micro sites, and all the microsites link back. This also allows for those microsites to appear in the search results and they have javascript redirect that go to certain pages. These 18 microsites server up content specific to the spider/indexer that is coming in. From: Parsons Technical Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: Re: [OT] Advertising website Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:26:56 -0500 So if a group of say Tomcat uses all traded some simple html pages with each others links we could in fact beat the system and for free (as in beer). Doug - Original Message - From: Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:20 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website This is why you will need someone who is dedicated to keeping up with trends and rules of search engines. They change to close loop holes, and close down tricks. From: Peter Crowther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:35:04 - From: Didier McGillis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] One trick that I know of and requires some software. Is to setup 4 to 5 sites filled with links back to your pages, and similar content, and of course you link to those sites. If Google notice you spamming the index in this way then they reserve the right not to list your site. Also, it appears they're now autodetecting the IP addresses of the 'copy' sites and are reducing the ranking of sites that are hosted at the same IP. So if you *are* going to risk this, you'll need sites hosted with different people. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Didier McGillis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] One trick that I know of and requires some software. Is to setup 4 to 5 sites filled with links back to your pages, and similar content, and of course you link to those sites. If Google notice you spamming the index in this way then they reserve the right not to list your site. Also, it appears they're now autodetecting the IP addresses of the 'copy' sites and are reducing the ranking of sites that are hosted at the same IP. So if you *are* going to risk this, you'll need sites hosted with different people. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
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From: t t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? No effective ones. To paraphrase: You can have any two of effective, easy, and cheap. Banner exchanges are easy and cheap, but are (usually) not effective. Search engine listings might be effective, but are neither cheap nor easy. Adverts ditto. Getting arrested for something spectacular and trying to warp the press coverage to your Web site is all-too-easy, possibly effective, but unlikely to be cheap. Etc. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, our company has to hire a marketing guru to promote our web site. She is supposed to be an expert in tweaking Google. That tells you there is no such thing as easy and cheap. - Original Message - From: Peter Crowther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website From: t t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? No effective ones. To paraphrase: You can have any two of effective, easy, and cheap. Banner exchanges are easy and cheap, but are (usually) not effective. Search engine listings might be effective, but are neither cheap nor easy. Adverts ditto. Getting arrested for something spectacular and trying to warp the press coverage to your Web site is all-too-easy, possibly effective, but unlikely to be cheap. Etc. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That's been the experience we have at work also. But keep in mind, I work for a small company so we don't have a lot of resources. -Original Message- From: epyonne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 28, 2005 11:33 AM To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: Re: [OT] Advertising website Well, our company has to hire a marketing guru to promote our web site. She is supposed to be an expert in tweaking Google. That tells you there is no such thing as easy and cheap. - Original Message - From: Peter Crowther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website From: t t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? No effective ones. To paraphrase: You can have any two of effective, easy, and cheap. Banner exchanges are easy and cheap, but are (usually) not effective. Search engine listings might be effective, but are neither cheap nor easy. Adverts ditto. Getting arrested for something spectacular and trying to warp the press coverage to your Web site is all-too-easy, possibly effective, but unlikely to be cheap. Etc. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If your serious about this then there is no cheap and easy way. SEO companies get a pretty penny to do their work, and it works and results are pretty good. They can also give you other avenues, and the good ones will work within your budget. Otherwise you will have to hire someone, it is a full time job to keep on track and on top of everything. Some suggestions if you arent hiring. Label everything out-going with your url and email address. EVERYTHING Invoices, emails, packages, letterhead, employees (opps), stamps, business cards, catalogs. EVERYTHING. Hit the big three in the search engines/directories. Almost everyone else uses them for their results. Google, Inktomi/Yahoo and MSN. Worry about those three, find out how to work those guys. From: t t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh if someone tells you they have some secret that no one else knows, or does it different then anyone else its bull. The secret to SEO is hard work, keeping up with the trends and being able to stay on the first wave of the trend, SEO is all about the trends. From: t t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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SEO companies feed you a bunch of bologni (one of the recent scames IMHO), don't waste your money you can read up on it their self http://www.google.com/webmasters/ Filip - Original Message - From: Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website If your serious about this then there is no cheap and easy way. SEO companies get a pretty penny to do their work, and it works and results are pretty good. They can also give you other avenues, and the good ones will work within your budget. Otherwise you will have to hire someone, it is a full time job to keep on track and on top of everything. Some suggestions if you arent hiring. Label everything out-going with your url and email address. EVERYTHING Invoices, emails, packages, letterhead, employees (opps), stamps, business cards, catalogs. EVERYTHING. Hit the big three in the search engines/directories. Almost everyone else uses them for their results. Google, Inktomi/Yahoo and MSN. Worry about those three, find out how to work those guys. From: t t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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snip On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST), t t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. /snip This is easy: build a SUPERIOR product and sell it for a REASONALBE price under conditions that will give the CLIENTS WHAT THEY WANT. Jack -- -- You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back. ~Dakota Jack~ You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep. ~Native Proverb~ Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows. ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~ --- This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I wonder how page ratings can be improved - how to make your website pop up to the top in a google search. Is there a trick, or should one simply have many links to the website from other web pages. - Anil Philip -Original Message- From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:09 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] Advertising website SEO companies feed you a bunch of bologni (one of the recent scames IMHO), don't waste your money you can read up on it their self http://www.google.com/webmasters/ Filip - Original Message - From: Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website If your serious about this then there is no cheap and easy way. SEO companies get a pretty penny to do their work, and it works and results are pretty good. They can also give you other avenues, and the good ones will work within your budget. Otherwise you will have to hire someone, it is a full time job to keep on track and on top of everything. Some suggestions if you arent hiring. Label everything out-going with your url and email address. EVERYTHING Invoices, emails, packages, letterhead, employees (opps), stamps, business cards, catalogs. EVERYTHING. Hit the big three in the search engines/directories. Almost everyone else uses them for their results. Google, Inktomi/Yahoo and MSN. Worry about those three, find out how to work those guys. From: t t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That is done by linking. How many other sites have links to your page. The more google finds, the higher you will go. From: Anil Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: 'Tomcat Users List' tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:19:20 -0600 I wonder how page ratings can be improved - how to make your website pop up to the top in a google search. Is there a trick, or should one simply have many links to the website from other web pages. - Anil Philip -Original Message- From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:09 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] Advertising website SEO companies feed you a bunch of bologni (one of the recent scames IMHO), don't waste your money you can read up on it their self http://www.google.com/webmasters/ Filip - Original Message - From: Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website If your serious about this then there is no cheap and easy way. SEO companies get a pretty penny to do their work, and it works and results are pretty good. They can also give you other avenues, and the good ones will work within your budget. Otherwise you will have to hire someone, it is a full time job to keep on track and on top of everything. Some suggestions if you arent hiring. Label everything out-going with your url and email address. EVERYTHING Invoices, emails, packages, letterhead, employees (opps), stamps, business cards, catalogs. EVERYTHING. Hit the big three in the search engines/directories. Almost everyone else uses them for their results. Google, Inktomi/Yahoo and MSN. Worry about those three, find out how to work those guys. From: t t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not all of them, but there are more bad then good. IMHO, I have worked with one for 5 years and what I want I get. From: Filip Hanik - Dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: Re: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:08:42 -0600 SEO companies feed you a bunch of bologni (one of the recent scames IMHO), don't waste your money you can read up on it their self http://www.google.com/webmasters/ Filip - Original Message - From: Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website If your serious about this then there is no cheap and easy way. SEO companies get a pretty penny to do their work, and it works and results are pretty good. They can also give you other avenues, and the good ones will work within your budget. Otherwise you will have to hire someone, it is a full time job to keep on track and on top of everything. Some suggestions if you arent hiring. Label everything out-going with your url and email address. EVERYTHING Invoices, emails, packages, letterhead, employees (opps), stamps, business cards, catalogs. EVERYTHING. Hit the big three in the search engines/directories. Almost everyone else uses them for their results. Google, Inktomi/Yahoo and MSN. Worry about those three, find out how to work those guys. From: t t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Go read Google. They tell you what they look for. One thing is links from other pages. It helps to legitimize your site. So if you can get a bunch of others to put up links to yours it helps. Ever make you wonder how some of these companies do their magic? Doug - Original Message - From: Anil Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website I wonder how page ratings can be improved - how to make your website pop up to the top in a google search. Is there a trick, or should one simply have many links to the website from other web pages. - Anil Philip -Original Message- From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:09 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] Advertising website SEO companies feed you a bunch of bologni (one of the recent scames IMHO), don't waste your money you can read up on it their self http://www.google.com/webmasters/ Filip - Original Message - From: Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website If your serious about this then there is no cheap and easy way. SEO companies get a pretty penny to do their work, and it works and results are pretty good. They can also give you other avenues, and the good ones will work within your budget. Otherwise you will have to hire someone, it is a full time job to keep on track and on top of everything. Some suggestions if you arent hiring. Label everything out-going with your url and email address. EVERYTHING Invoices, emails, packages, letterhead, employees (opps), stamps, business cards, catalogs. EVERYTHING. Hit the big three in the search engines/directories. Almost everyone else uses them for their results. Google, Inktomi/Yahoo and MSN. Worry about those three, find out how to work those guys. From: t t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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One trick that I know of and requires some software. Is to setup 4 to 5 sites filled with links back to your pages, and similar content, and of course you link to those sites. From: Parsons Technical Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: Re: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:23:30 -0500 Go read Google. They tell you what they look for. One thing is links from other pages. It helps to legitimize your site. So if you can get a bunch of others to put up links to yours it helps. Ever make you wonder how some of these companies do their magic? Doug - Original Message - From: Anil Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website I wonder how page ratings can be improved - how to make your website pop up to the top in a google search. Is there a trick, or should one simply have many links to the website from other web pages. - Anil Philip -Original Message- From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:09 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] Advertising website SEO companies feed you a bunch of bologni (one of the recent scames IMHO), don't waste your money you can read up on it their self http://www.google.com/webmasters/ Filip - Original Message - From: Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website If your serious about this then there is no cheap and easy way. SEO companies get a pretty penny to do their work, and it works and results are pretty good. They can also give you other avenues, and the good ones will work within your budget. Otherwise you will have to hire someone, it is a full time job to keep on track and on top of everything. Some suggestions if you arent hiring. Label everything out-going with your url and email address. EVERYTHING Invoices, emails, packages, letterhead, employees (opps), stamps, business cards, catalogs. EVERYTHING. Hit the big three in the search engines/directories. Almost everyone else uses them for their results. Google, Inktomi/Yahoo and MSN. Worry about those three, find out how to work those guys. From: t t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks. Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If your serious about this then there is no cheap and easy way. SEO companies get a pretty penny to do their work, and it works and results are pretty good. They can also give you other avenues, and the good ones will work within your budget. Otherwise you will have to hire someone, it is a full time job to keep on track and on top of everything. Some suggestions if you arent hiring. Label everything out-going with your url and email address. EVERYTHING Invoices, emails, packages, letterhead, employees (opps), stamps, business cards, catalogs. EVERYTHING. Hit the big three in the search engines/directories. Almost everyone else uses them for their results. Google, Inktomi/Yahoo and MSN. Worry about those three, find out how to work those guys. From: t t Reply-To: Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thanks. T.T. Filip Hanik - Dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SEO companies feed you a bunch of bologni (one of the recent scames IMHO), don't waste your money you can read up on it their self http://www.google.com/webmasters/ Filip - Original Message - From: Didier McGillis To: Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website If your serious about this then there is no cheap and easy way. SEO companies get a pretty penny to do their work, and it works and results are pretty good. They can also give you other avenues, and the good ones will work within your budget. Otherwise you will have to hire someone, it is a full time job to keep on track and on top of everything. Some suggestions if you arent hiring. Label everything out-going with your url and email address. EVERYTHING Invoices, emails, packages, letterhead, employees (opps), stamps, business cards, catalogs. EVERYTHING. Hit the big three in the search engines/directories. Almost everyone else uses them for their results. Google, Inktomi/Yahoo and MSN. Worry about those three, find out how to work those guys. From: t t Reply-To: Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! Try it today!
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I am sure this can be done programmatically. - Original Message - From: Parsons Technical Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Advertising website Go read Google. They tell you what they look for. One thing is links from other pages. It helps to legitimize your site. So if you can get a bunch of others to put up links to yours it helps. Ever make you wonder how some of these companies do their magic? Doug - Original Message - From: Anil Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website I wonder how page ratings can be improved - how to make your website pop up to the top in a google search. Is there a trick, or should one simply have many links to the website from other web pages. - Anil Philip -Original Message- From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:09 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] Advertising website SEO companies feed you a bunch of bologni (one of the recent scames IMHO), don't waste your money you can read up on it their self http://www.google.com/webmasters/ Filip - Original Message - From: Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Advertising website If your serious about this then there is no cheap and easy way. SEO companies get a pretty penny to do their work, and it works and results are pretty good. They can also give you other avenues, and the good ones will work within your budget. Otherwise you will have to hire someone, it is a full time job to keep on track and on top of everything. Some suggestions if you arent hiring. Label everything out-going with your url and email address. EVERYTHING Invoices, emails, packages, letterhead, employees (opps), stamps, business cards, catalogs. EVERYTHING. Hit the big three in the search engines/directories. Almost everyone else uses them for their results. Google, Inktomi/Yahoo and MSN. Worry about those three, find out how to work those guys. From: t t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org To: Tomcat Users List tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Subject: [OT] Advertising website Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Hi, Does anyone know a easy and cheap (even free) way to advertise a website? Thanks. T.T. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
