[offtopic] Opinion - Error messages

2003-02-03 Thread Jim Henderson
I have been in IT for approximately 25 years and worked with Cobol, C++,
Fortran, PL1, Java, and others on IBM S390, PDPs, AS400s, PCs.  I believe
Tomcat is a great server environment.  It has a lot of strengths and is
evolving rapidly.  Many talented developers dedicate vast amounts of time to
the project.  I appreciate their efforts.  

In all cases, error processing and reporting could be a difficult task.  I
appreciate the effort that it requires.  But I do believe for Tomcat to
flourish, which I hope it does, it needs more attention in this area.  For
over a week I have been painstakingly trying to set up Server.xml with my
context data.  Yet, I am simply rewarded with the following non-descriptive
error message.  I pity people that are in a production environment with
development schedules who encounter similar situations.  In general, Tomcat
deserves high marks.  But for error processing and reporting, it deserves an
F.

Just my $0.02


2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Starting
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing start(), current
available=false
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default
Resources
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Resources start failed:
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring non-privileged
default Loader
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default Manager
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing standard
container startup
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Context startup failed due
to previous errors
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Exception during cleanup
after start failed
LifecycleException:  Container StandardContext[/mfnettags] has not been
started
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.stop(StandardContext.java:3643)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:3621)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:738)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:347)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:497)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:2189)
at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:512)
at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:400)
at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:180)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39
)
at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl
.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:203)




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RE: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages

2003-02-03 Thread Turner, John

Is this a request for help, or just a rant?  Please let us know.

John

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages
 
 
 I have been in IT for approximately 25 years and worked with 
 Cobol, C++,
 Fortran, PL1, Java, and others on IBM S390, PDPs, AS400s, 
 PCs.  I believe
 Tomcat is a great server environment.  It has a lot of 
 strengths and is
 evolving rapidly.  Many talented developers dedicate vast 
 amounts of time to
 the project.  I appreciate their efforts.  
 
 In all cases, error processing and reporting could be a 
 difficult task.  I
 appreciate the effort that it requires.  But I do believe for 
 Tomcat to
 flourish, which I hope it does, it needs more attention in 
 this area.  For
 over a week I have been painstakingly trying to set up 
 Server.xml with my
 context data.  Yet, I am simply rewarded with the following 
 non-descriptive
 error message.  I pity people that are in a production 
 environment with
 development schedules who encounter similar situations.  In 
 general, Tomcat
 deserves high marks.  But for error processing and reporting, 
 it deserves an
 F.
 
 Just my $0.02
 
 
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Starting
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing 
 start(), current
 available=false
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default
 Resources
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Resources 
 start failed:
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring 
 non-privileged
 default Loader
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring 
 default Manager
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing standard
 container startup
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Context 
 startup failed due
 to previous errors
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Exception 
 during cleanup
 after start failed
 LifecycleException:  Container StandardContext[/mfnettags] 
 has not been
 started
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.stop(StandardContext.
 java:3643)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext
 .java:3621)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:738)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:347)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService
 .java:497)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.j
 ava:2189)
   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:512)
   at 
 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:400)
   at 
 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:180)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at
 sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccess
 orImpl.java:39
 )
   at
 sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMeth
 odAccessorImpl
 .java:25)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
   at 
 org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:203)
 
 
 
 

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Re: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages

2003-02-03 Thread Jeanfrancois Arcand


Jim Henderson wrote:


I have been in IT for approximately 25 years


Scary ;-)


and worked with Cobol, C++,
Fortran, PL1, Java, and others on IBM S390, PDPs, AS400s, PCs.  

No Lisp? That's the problem!


I believe
Tomcat is a great server environment.  It has a lot of strengths and is
evolving rapidly.  Many talented developers dedicate vast amounts of time to
the project.  I appreciate their efforts.  

In all cases, error processing and reporting could be a difficult task.  I
appreciate the effort that it requires.  But I do believe for Tomcat to
flourish, which I hope it does, it needs more attention in this area.  For
over a week I have been painstakingly trying to set up Server.xml with my
context data.  Yet, I am simply rewarded with the following non-descriptive
error message.  I pity people that are in a production environment with
development schedules who encounter similar situations.  In general, Tomcat
deserves high marks.  But for error processing and reporting, it deserves an
F.

You deverse an F also for the kind of information you just posted ;-) 
Please tell us more what you are trying to do. Which platform?, Which 
Tomcat version (I guess its 4.1.x...but I don't like guessing), What 
your app is trying to do and most importantly, add your web.xml file. Is 
the Tomcat example working? Have you try to increase the logging level?

Then we will revise your note and maybe help you and give a C ;-)

-- Jeanfrancois ---see--- (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html) :-)


Just my $0.02


2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Starting
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing start(), current
available=false
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default
Resources
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Resources start failed:
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring non-privileged
default Loader
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default Manager
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing standard
container startup
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Context startup failed due
to previous errors
2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Exception during cleanup
after start failed
LifecycleException:  Container StandardContext[/mfnettags] has not been
started
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.stop(StandardContext.java:3643)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:3621)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:738)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:347)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:497)
	at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:2189)
	at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:512)
	at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:400)
	at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:180)
	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
	at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39
)
	at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl
.java:25)
	at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
	at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:203)



 



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RE: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages

2003-02-03 Thread Jim Henderson
I take help!  :)  (I am just frustrated and the post was intended to be
positive criticism.)

My app works just fine (minus the mail function) IF I do not add my
Context info to server.xml.  My context data is larger (includes Valve,
Logger, Resource, ResourceParms, and Environment items) but I have trimmed
it down to the following that is inserted in the 4.1.18 distribution after
the examples context and before /Host.   And it is strange, if I run the
app then add the server.xml entry without clearing the work subdirectory and
without redeploying, the error does not occur.  This was a very confusing
issue, it seemed to work sometimes and sometimes not.  But if I add my
Context tag to the server.xml, then deploy am WAR file, the error occurs.
It is the following trimmed Context that caused the error.




Context  path=/mfnettags
  docBase=mfnettags
  reloadable=false
  debug=5
  swallowOutput=false
  useNaming=true
  
/Context



Thanks!



-Original Message-
From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:08 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages



Is this a request for help, or just a rant?  Please let us know.

John

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [offtopic] Opinion - Error messages


 I have been in IT for approximately 25 years and worked with
 Cobol, C++,
 Fortran, PL1, Java, and others on IBM S390, PDPs, AS400s,
 PCs.  I believe
 Tomcat is a great server environment.  It has a lot of
 strengths and is
 evolving rapidly.  Many talented developers dedicate vast
 amounts of time to
 the project.  I appreciate their efforts.

 In all cases, error processing and reporting could be a
 difficult task.  I
 appreciate the effort that it requires.  But I do believe for
 Tomcat to
 flourish, which I hope it does, it needs more attention in
 this area.  For
 over a week I have been painstakingly trying to set up
 Server.xml with my
 context data.  Yet, I am simply rewarded with the following
 non-descriptive
 error message.  I pity people that are in a production
 environment with
 development schedules who encounter similar situations.  In
 general, Tomcat
 deserves high marks.  But for error processing and reporting,
 it deserves an
 F.

 Just my $0.02


 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Starting
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing
 start(), current
 available=false
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring default
 Resources
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Resources
 start failed:
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring
 non-privileged
 default Loader
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Configuring
 default Manager
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Processing standard
 container startup
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Context
 startup failed due
 to previous errors
 2003-02-03 09:32:57 StandardContext[/mfnettags]: Exception
 during cleanup
 after start failed
 LifecycleException:  Container StandardContext[/mfnettags]
 has not been
 started
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.stop(StandardContext.
 java:3643)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext
 .java:3621)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:738)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:347)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService
 .java:497)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.j
 ava:2189)
   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:512)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:400)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:180)
   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
   at
 sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccess
 orImpl.java:39
 )
   at
 sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMeth
 odAccessorImpl
 .java:25)
   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
   at
 org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:203)





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