Re: AW: AW: mailing list or news group??

2001-05-17 Thread Milt Epstein

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Ralph Einfeldt wrote:

> Sorry, but it has been discussed in at least three threads!
>
> Some examples:
>
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=26350
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=26349
>
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=15019
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=14988
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=14946
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=14937
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=14929
>
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11634
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11579 (*)
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11496
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11476
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11471
> http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11468
>
> * Look at this one to see Craig's opinion
> (which it quite close to mine)

OK.

But to be fair, the latter two threads were before I joined this
group, and the first (the most recent one) -- which consisted
basically of one person saying "Is there a newsgroup form of this
list" and another one saying "Arhhh -- no way" -- hardly
constitutes a "discussion" or a "thread" :-).

As to a mailing list vs. a newsgroup vs. a web forum: I have a strong
dislike of the latter (for reasons I already mentioned); I can see
legitimate and significant pros and cons of the first two, and so
hence don't have a strong opinion one way or another on it.  (If I
couldn't take tomcat-user as a mailing list, I'd simply unsubscribe
and read the archives -- and if it doesn't restrict posting to
subscribers, then there's nothing really lost there -- and even if it
does, perhaps there's a "subscribe but no mail" option.)

Further, regarding a newsgroup, there's nothing stopping someone from
simply going ahead and setting one up.  It wouldn't be so easy to
create such a Big 8 newsgroup -- you've got to go through the whole
RFD/CFV process -- but, if things haven't changed too much, creating
an alt group is easy.  That could be a good thing, as those of the
tomcat-user people who prefer newsgroups would go there, and those
that prefer mailing lists would stay here -- and each would have less
volume.


> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Mai 2001 11:50
> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Betreff: Re: AW: mailing list or news group??
> 
> > As to the previous poster's comments,  I think he's wrong on several
> > points.  For one thing, I've been on this list several months, and I
> > don't recall seeing this topic discussed at all, let alone several
> > times.
> 
> > Further, I think he's off as to the capabilities of modern
> > mail readers -- particularly, I think there are many good, modern mail
> > readers that don't have the first and third features he mentions.
>

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




AW: AW: mailing list or news group??

2001-05-17 Thread Ralph Einfeldt

Sorry, but it has been discussed in at least three threads! 

Some examples:

http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=26350
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=26349

http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=15019
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=14988
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=14946
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=14937
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=14929

http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11634
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11579 (*)
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11496
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11476
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11471
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/archive/view?mesg=11468

* Look at this one to see Craig's opinion 
(which it quite close to mine)

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Mai 2001 11:50
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: AW: mailing list or news group??

> As to the previous poster's comments,  I think he's wrong on several
> points.  For one thing, I've been on this list several months, and I
> don't recall seeing this topic discussed at all, let alone several
> times.

> Further, I think he's off as to the capabilities of modern
> mail readers -- particularly, I think there are many good, modern mail
> readers that don't have the first and third features he mentions.