RE: CRUD Operations using Tomcat

2004-07-22 Thread Yu, John
Don't think this is directly related to Tomcat, but MDA covers what 
you requested. Tools like OptimalJ and others could help you out.

- John

 -Original Message-
 From: Valter G. Nogueira Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:57 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: CRUD Operations using Tomcat
 
 
 I have read a lot about Struts, Hibernate and DAO.
 
 But these aproachs are too verbose, I mean manually define 
 XML configs, jsp
 pages, actions...
 
 I was looking for some tool which I point to my database schema and it
 produces the bunch of code.
 
 It would be good if it was tied to a data dictionary that 
 could dynamically
 change checks and labels.
 
 Valter
 
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 From: Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:25 PM
 Subject: Re: CRUD Operations using Tomcat
 
 
  From: Valter G. Nogueira Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   I am looking for good ways to implements CRUD ops using Tomcat
   Having handcrafted jsp/servlets almost identicals seems 
 to be not only
   boring, but an error prone aproach.
 
  How are you doing it now?  Do you have JDBC code inside 
 your Servlets?  I
  use Struts, and on that users list we often get the same 
 sort of question,
  How do I read and write records using Struts?
 
  The answer is the same-- you don't.  You do your data 
 access in a separate
  layer of code so that nothing in the Action [or Servlet] 
 even knows that a
  database exists.
 
  There are several options available if you're using JDBC-- I think
 Hibernate
  is one?  I wrote my own and followed the J2EE Data Access 
 Objects pattern.
  So in my Actions I have code along the lines of:
Person person = personDAO.read( 12345 );
 
  HTH,
  -- 
  Wendy Smoak
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: CRUD Operations using Tomcat

2004-07-21 Thread Valter G. Nogueira Jr.
I have read a lot about Struts, Hibernate and DAO.

But these aproachs are too verbose, I mean manually define XML configs, jsp
pages, actions...

I was looking for some tool which I point to my database schema and it
produces the bunch of code.

It would be good if it was tied to a data dictionary that could dynamically
change checks and labels.

Valter

- Original Message - 
From: Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: CRUD Operations using Tomcat


 From: Valter G. Nogueira Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I am looking for good ways to implements CRUD ops using Tomcat
  Having handcrafted jsp/servlets almost identicals seems to be not only
  boring, but an error prone aproach.

 How are you doing it now?  Do you have JDBC code inside your Servlets?  I
 use Struts, and on that users list we often get the same sort of question,
 How do I read and write records using Struts?

 The answer is the same-- you don't.  You do your data access in a separate
 layer of code so that nothing in the Action [or Servlet] even knows that a
 database exists.

 There are several options available if you're using JDBC-- I think
Hibernate
 is one?  I wrote my own and followed the J2EE Data Access Objects pattern.
 So in my Actions I have code along the lines of:
   Person person = personDAO.read( 12345 );

 HTH,
 -- 
 Wendy Smoak





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OT Re: CRUD Operations using Tomcat

2004-07-21 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: Valter G. Nogueira Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have read a lot about Struts, Hibernate and DAO.
 But these aproachs are too verbose, I mean manually define XML configs,
jsp
 pages, actions...

Cross Struts off that list, it has nothing to do with accessing your data.

DAO is a pattern-- some of the existing frameworks implement it, or you can
do it yourself.

I haven't used Hibernate, but of the three I think it's the closest to what
you want.  It should get you out of having to worry about when/where to
store the information.

 I was looking for some tool which I point to my database schema and it
 produces the bunch of code.
 It would be good if it was tied to a data dictionary that could
dynamically
 change checks and labels.

JDO might be what you're looking for:
http://jdocentral.com/  http://java.sun.com/products/jdo/index.jsp

You're still going to have to do some work up front to configure whatever
you choose.

-- 
Wendy Smoak


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CRUD Operations using Tomcat

2004-07-20 Thread Valter G. Nogueira Jr.
Hi,

I am looking for good ways to implements CRUD ops using Tomcat

Having handcrafted jsp/servlets almost identicals seems to be not only boring, but an 
error prone aproach.

Thanks for any advice

Valter

Re: CRUD Operations using Tomcat

2004-07-20 Thread Graham Leggett
Valter G. Nogueira Jr. wrote:
I am looking for good ways to implements CRUD ops using Tomcat
We use Apache Struts to implement the CRUD approach, along with it's 
DynaActionForms feature.

Regards,
Graham
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Re: CRUD Operations using Tomcat

2004-07-20 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: Valter G. Nogueira Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I am looking for good ways to implements CRUD ops using Tomcat
 Having handcrafted jsp/servlets almost identicals seems to be not only
 boring, but an error prone aproach.

How are you doing it now?  Do you have JDBC code inside your Servlets?  I
use Struts, and on that users list we often get the same sort of question,
How do I read and write records using Struts?

The answer is the same-- you don't.  You do your data access in a separate
layer of code so that nothing in the Action [or Servlet] even knows that a
database exists.

There are several options available if you're using JDBC-- I think Hibernate
is one?  I wrote my own and followed the J2EE Data Access Objects pattern.
So in my Actions I have code along the lines of:
  Person person = personDAO.read( 12345 );

HTH,
-- 
Wendy Smoak





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