Re: HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN
This means use only Bea and Oracle.. No Websphere or etc.. right??? So, what is Resin??? is it good??? I implemented Ariba Marketplace in HK last year, but I tried to implement Web Logic 4.51 and still crash.. This is because the Server may be used NT right??? But, we still use NT, and still life, but performance is not still good enough.. FYI, there is more than 18 Sun with Oracle, and we are one of their Main Provider that have 10% commision for the project.. The project will be EJB, but I don't know when, because I see all our citizen are very slow, even in business... i prefer to implement JSP/Servlet/Java Bean in this years.. and upgrade it later.. Frans - Original Message - From: Pae Choi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Re: HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN No WebSphere or any other? Just BEA and Oracle? :-) Pae - Original Message - From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:03 AM Subject: RE: HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN I have never used Tomcat for large scale projects like this, but some on the list have. But I will ask a few questions. Do you plan on using EJB or just JSP and servlets? If so, look at Resin at www.caucho.com as another option. This can be hooked up to Jboss but not in the same VM. If budget constraints are not an issue, given the amount of people this would serve, I would seriously look at Weblogic and Oracle. -Original Message- From: Frans Thamura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:03 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN Dear All, I am in a decision to buy a software or use tomcat in real production.. I am very familiar with tomcat 3.2, but never try 3.3, and tomcat 4 still in progress (i cannot recommended tomcat 3.3 and 4 because i still cannot install cocoon 1.8.2, and the cocoon list still not response)..Because our content management system is run on top of cocoon 1.8.2 and cocoon 2 is not compatible. :( I want to create a portal, category: intranet, with staff more than 10.000. This will become nationally project that handle more than millions people... The country for implementation is Indonesia. This is not a internet portal, but will be intranet portal with private B2B marketplace inside it. This project must run on the Net at April, and the prototype of this B2B using Tomcat :) The project will serve approx half of Indonesian citizen ( I think this is database problem right) and there will be instance problem there... Indonesia have 250 millions citizen, and there will be 120million citizen, the database will include all parents and children. Current System is using Oracle Developer, ORacle Database, and SUN (more than 20 SUNs was used there)... and there will be more than 24 points of Frame Relay connection. I need you question. The category is URGENT.. if you can recommended it using Tomcat, I will use it.. or may be using JRUN if the answer is not satified enough.. sorry for this wording. -- I just want to show to the world that tomcat is good and qualified enough to run in real production -- The final decision is using Java as standard programming, because the multiplatform of that client environment. We are JRUN partner, and I want to try tomcatany comment?? Question: Do you have a try to use tomcat in a production with user more than 1000 concurrent user in one time? can I use tomcat? or I must buy a JRUN??? or JBOSS + Tomcat? Because with this business case, i think tomcat is enough, because the project is look like data warehousing... We are studying Weblogic, and has contact Weblogic Singapore.. but I still interest with tomcat or may be JBoss+tomcat.. Thanks Frans Thamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO Adelva.com Jakarta Indonesia _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN
I have never used Tomcat for large scale projects like this, but some on the list have. But I will ask a few questions. Do you plan on using EJB or just JSP and servlets? If so, look at Resin at www.caucho.com as another option. This can be hooked up to Jboss but not in the same VM. If budget constraints are not an issue, given the amount of people this would serve, I would seriously look at Weblogic and Oracle. -Original Message- From: Frans Thamura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:03 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN Dear All, I am in a decision to buy a software or use tomcat in real production.. I am very familiar with tomcat 3.2, but never try 3.3, and tomcat 4 still in progress (i cannot recommended tomcat 3.3 and 4 because i still cannot install cocoon 1.8.2, and the cocoon list still not response)..Because our content management system is run on top of cocoon 1.8.2 and cocoon 2 is not compatible. :( I want to create a portal, category: intranet, with staff more than 10.000. This will become nationally project that handle more than millions people... The country for implementation is Indonesia. This is not a internet portal, but will be intranet portal with private B2B marketplace inside it. This project must run on the Net at April, and the prototype of this B2B using Tomcat :) The project will serve approx half of Indonesian citizen ( I think this is database problem right) and there will be instance problem there... Indonesia have 250 millions citizen, and there will be 120million citizen, the database will include all parents and children. Current System is using Oracle Developer, ORacle Database, and SUN (more than 20 SUNs was used there)... and there will be more than 24 points of Frame Relay connection. I need you question. The category is URGENT.. if you can recommended it using Tomcat, I will use it.. or may be using JRUN if the answer is not satified enough.. sorry for this wording. -- I just want to show to the world that tomcat is good and qualified enough to run in real production -- The final decision is using Java as standard programming, because the multiplatform of that client environment. We are JRUN partner, and I want to try tomcatany comment?? Question: Do you have a try to use tomcat in a production with user more than 1000 concurrent user in one time? can I use tomcat? or I must buy a JRUN??? or JBOSS + Tomcat? Because with this business case, i think tomcat is enough, because the project is look like data warehousing... We are studying Weblogic, and has contact Weblogic Singapore.. but I still interest with tomcat or may be JBoss+tomcat.. Thanks Frans Thamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO Adelva.com Jakarta Indonesia _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN
No WebSphere or any other? Just BEA and Oracle? :-) Pae - Original Message - From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:03 AM Subject: RE: HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN I have never used Tomcat for large scale projects like this, but some on the list have. But I will ask a few questions. Do you plan on using EJB or just JSP and servlets? If so, look at Resin at www.caucho.com as another option. This can be hooked up to Jboss but not in the same VM. If budget constraints are not an issue, given the amount of people this would serve, I would seriously look at Weblogic and Oracle. -Original Message- From: Frans Thamura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:03 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN Dear All, I am in a decision to buy a software or use tomcat in real production.. I am very familiar with tomcat 3.2, but never try 3.3, and tomcat 4 still in progress (i cannot recommended tomcat 3.3 and 4 because i still cannot install cocoon 1.8.2, and the cocoon list still not response)..Because our content management system is run on top of cocoon 1.8.2 and cocoon 2 is not compatible. :( I want to create a portal, category: intranet, with staff more than 10.000. This will become nationally project that handle more than millions people... The country for implementation is Indonesia. This is not a internet portal, but will be intranet portal with private B2B marketplace inside it. This project must run on the Net at April, and the prototype of this B2B using Tomcat :) The project will serve approx half of Indonesian citizen ( I think this is database problem right) and there will be instance problem there... Indonesia have 250 millions citizen, and there will be 120million citizen, the database will include all parents and children. Current System is using Oracle Developer, ORacle Database, and SUN (more than 20 SUNs was used there)... and there will be more than 24 points of Frame Relay connection. I need you question. The category is URGENT.. if you can recommended it using Tomcat, I will use it.. or may be using JRUN if the answer is not satified enough.. sorry for this wording. -- I just want to show to the world that tomcat is good and qualified enough to run in real production -- The final decision is using Java as standard programming, because the multiplatform of that client environment. We are JRUN partner, and I want to try tomcatany comment?? Question: Do you have a try to use tomcat in a production with user more than 1000 concurrent user in one time? can I use tomcat? or I must buy a JRUN??? or JBOSS + Tomcat? Because with this business case, i think tomcat is enough, because the project is look like data warehousing... We are studying Weblogic, and has contact Weblogic Singapore.. but I still interest with tomcat or may be JBoss+tomcat.. Thanks Frans Thamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO Adelva.com Jakarta Indonesia _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN
Frans Thamura wrote: Dear All, I am in a decision to buy a software or use tomcat in real production.. I am very familiar with tomcat 3.2, but never try 3.3, and tomcat 4 still in progress (i cannot recommended tomcat 3.3 and 4 because i still cannot install cocoon 1.8.2, and the cocoon list still not response)..Because our content management system is run on top of cocoon 1.8.2 and cocoon 2 is not compatible. :( I want to create a portal, category: intranet, with staff more than 10.000. This will become nationally project that handle more than millions people... The country for implementation is Indonesia. This is not a internet portal, but will be intranet portal with private B2B marketplace inside it. This project must run on the Net at April, and the prototype of this B2B using Tomcat :) The project will serve approx half of Indonesian citizen ( I think this is database problem right) and there will be instance problem there... Indonesia have 250 millions citizen, and there will be 120million citizen, the database will include all parents and children. Current System is using Oracle Developer, ORacle Database, and SUN (more than 20 SUNs was used there)... and there will be more than 24 points of Frame Relay connection. I need you question. The category is URGENT.. if you can recommended it using Tomcat, I will use it.. or may be using JRUN if the answer is not satified enough.. sorry for this wording. -- I just want to show to the world that tomcat is good and qualified enough to run in real production -- The final decision is using Java as standard programming, because the multiplatform of that client environment. We are JRUN partner, and I want to try tomcatany comment?? Question: Do you have a try to use tomcat in a production with user more than 1000 concurrent user in one time? can I use tomcat? or I must buy a JRUN??? or JBOSS + Tomcat? Because with this business case, i think tomcat is enough, because the project is look like data warehousing... We are studying Weblogic, and has contact Weblogic Singapore.. but I still interest with tomcat or may be JBoss+tomcat.. Thanks Frans Thamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO Adelva.com Jakarta Indonesia _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also consider Resin http://www.caucho.com/articles/jsp_benchmark.xtp They also have there own db pool. Barry -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HELP - URGENT : Stability of Tomcat if compare with JBOSS or JRUN
Dear All, I am in a decision to buy a software or use tomcat in real production.. I am very familiar with tomcat 3.2, but never try 3.3, and tomcat 4 still in progress (i cannot recommended tomcat 3.3 and 4 because i still cannot install cocoon 1.8.2, and the cocoon list still not response)..Because our content management system is run on top of cocoon 1.8.2 and cocoon 2 is not compatible. :( I want to create a portal, category: intranet, with staff more than 10.000. This will become nationally project that handle more than millions people... The country for implementation is Indonesia. This is not a internet portal, but will be intranet portal with private B2B marketplace inside it. This project must run on the Net at April, and the prototype of this B2B using Tomcat :) The project will serve approx half of Indonesian citizen ( I think this is database problem right) and there will be instance problem there... Indonesia have 250 millions citizen, and there will be 120million citizen, the database will include all parents and children. Current System is using Oracle Developer, ORacle Database, and SUN (more than 20 SUNs was used there)... and there will be more than 24 points of Frame Relay connection. I need you question. The category is URGENT.. if you can recommended it using Tomcat, I will use it.. or may be using JRUN if the answer is not satified enough.. sorry for this wording. -- I just want to show to the world that tomcat is good and qualified enough to run in real production -- The final decision is using Java as standard programming, because the multiplatform of that client environment. We are JRUN partner, and I want to try tomcatany comment?? Question: Do you have a try to use tomcat in a production with user more than 1000 concurrent user in one time? can I use tomcat? or I must buy a JRUN??? or JBOSS + Tomcat? Because with this business case, i think tomcat is enough, because the project is look like data warehousing... We are studying Weblogic, and has contact Weblogic Singapore.. but I still interest with tomcat or may be JBoss+tomcat.. Thanks Frans Thamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO Adelva.com Jakarta Indonesia _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
