Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?

2004-12-01 Thread Bjørn T Johansen
I am thinging of upgrading our prod Tomcat server from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28 (or is 5.5.4 a 
safer bet?) and I was wondering if there would be any problems when upgrading?
Anything particular I should think of?

Regards,
BTJ
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Re: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?

2004-12-01 Thread Wade Chandler
Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
I am thinging of upgrading our prod Tomcat server from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28 
(or is 5.5.4 a safer bet?) and I was wondering if there would be any 
problems when upgrading?
Anything particular I should think of?

Regards,
BTJ
Personally I'm using 5.0.28 and I love it.  I usually wait a couple of 
iterations after a major release like 5.5.x because of new things and 
bugs.  5.5.x is a rewrite of a bunch of underlying code said to improve 
performance, stabilization, and TOC.  I usually give them time to air 
out some bugs, so I might switch to 5.5.x around 5.5.7/8/9 something 
like that.  That's just a personal measure from my own experience with a 
code base and major changes.  As far as being stable, I haven't had to 
restart Tomcat 5.0.28 in a long time.  Not sure the number of days, but 
it's in the months, and that was just because of having to reboot the 
computer.

Wade
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RE: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?

2004-12-01 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
I'd say go to 5.0.28 first.  One major revision at a time ;)

TOC?  Table of Contents?

Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com


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From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:35 AM
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Subject: Re: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?

Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
 I am thinging of upgrading our prod Tomcat server from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28
 (or is 5.5.4 a safer bet?) and I was wondering if there would be any
 problems when upgrading?
 Anything particular I should think of?


 Regards,

 BTJ


Personally I'm using 5.0.28 and I love it.  I usually wait a couple of
iterations after a major release like 5.5.x because of new things and
bugs.  5.5.x is a rewrite of a bunch of underlying code said to improve
performance, stabilization, and TOC.  I usually give them time to air
out some bugs, so I might switch to 5.5.x around 5.5.7/8/9 something
like that.  That's just a personal measure from my own experience with a
code base and major changes.  As far as being stable, I haven't had to
restart Tomcat 5.0.28 in a long time.  Not sure the number of days, but
it's in the months, and that was just because of having to reboot the
computer.

Wade


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Re: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?

2004-12-01 Thread Wade Chandler
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
I'd say go to 5.0.28 first.  One major revision at a time ;)
TOC?  Table of Contents?  

Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com
 


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From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:35 AM
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Subject: Re: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?
Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
I am thinging of upgrading our prod Tomcat server from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28
(or is 5.5.4 a safer bet?) and I was wondering if there would be any
problems when upgrading?
Anything particular I should think of?
Regards,
BTJ
Personally I'm using 5.0.28 and I love it.  I usually wait a couple of
iterations after a major release like 5.5.x because of new things and
bugs.  5.5.x is a rewrite of a bunch of underlying code said to improve
performance, stabilization, and TOC.  I usually give them time to air
out some bugs, so I might switch to 5.5.x around 5.5.7/8/9 something
like that.  That's just a personal measure from my own experience with a
code base and major changes.  As far as being stable, I haven't had to
restart Tomcat 5.0.28 in a long time.  Not sure the number of days, but
it's in the months, and that was just because of having to reboot the
computer.
Wade
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Total ownership cost.  I guess that should have been TCO. Total cost of 
ownership.  :-P.  That was one of the things the tomcat web site said 
about Tomcat 5.5.  I assume that means it has some improvements to the 
manager and the administrator...?, or is the TCO reduction or assumed 
reduction a result of it being more stable with better performance, so 
lower resources are needed?

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RE: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?

2004-12-01 Thread Mike Curwen
We've recently been writing the 'next version' of our main application, and
the decision was made to target TC 5.0.x, up from 4.1.x.  We experience no
major difficulties in making that move, thouogh there can be a few gotchas.
 
The one thing we noticed that changed (for the better) was error page
handling.  

Others have reported small problems regarding TC 5's more strict
interpretation of the spec in certain areas. As an example of this (though
this is from memory!) I think someone had something like:

jsp:include page=foo
/jsp:include
 
And that appealed to their sense of 'good coding' (like putting opening and
closing braces on all blocks, including one line blocks).  This worked in
Tomcat 4.x, but not in 5.x

So small things like that might catch you up, but otherwise nothing major.


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 Subject: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?
 
 
 I am thinging of upgrading our prod Tomcat server from 4.1.27 
 to 5.0.28 (or is 5.5.4 a 
 safer bet?) and I was wondering if there would be any 
 problems when upgrading? Anything particular I should think of?
 
 
 Regards,
 
 BTJ
 
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Re: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?

2004-12-01 Thread Bjørn T Johansen
oki, thx :)
The conclusion would be..:
- upgrade to 5.0.28 is a good thing...
- shouldn't be any/much problem doing this
BTJ
Mike Curwen wrote:
We've recently been writing the 'next version' of our main application, and
the decision was made to target TC 5.0.x, up from 4.1.x.  We experience no
major difficulties in making that move, thouogh there can be a few gotchas.
 
The one thing we noticed that changed (for the better) was error page
handling.  

Others have reported small problems regarding TC 5's more strict
interpretation of the spec in certain areas. As an example of this (though
this is from memory!) I think someone had something like:
jsp:include page=foo
/jsp:include
 
And that appealed to their sense of 'good coding' (like putting opening and
closing braces on all blocks, including one line blocks).  This worked in
Tomcat 4.x, but not in 5.x

So small things like that might catch you up, but otherwise nothing major.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:08 AM
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Subject: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?

I am thinging of upgrading our prod Tomcat server from 4.1.27 
to 5.0.28 (or is 5.5.4 a 
safer bet?) and I was wondering if there would be any 
problems when upgrading? Anything particular I should think of?

Regards,
BTJ
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Re: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?

2004-12-01 Thread QM
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:32:42PM +0100, Bj?rn T Johansen wrote:
: - upgrade to 5.0.28 is a good thing...
: - shouldn't be any/much problem doing this

As long as your app code is clean (e.g. doesn't rely on features
deprecated in servlet spec 2.4, doesn't rely on features specific to
Tomcat 4) then it should be straightforward.  There's a brief doc on my
website for the 4.1 - 5.0 upgrade:

http://www.brandxdev.net/misc/tomcat_upgrade.site

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Re: Moving from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28?

2004-12-01 Thread Quinton Delpeche
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 15:08, Bjrn T Johansen wrote:
 I am thinging of upgrading our prod Tomcat server from 4.1.27 to 5.0.28 (or
 is 5.5.4 a safer bet?) and I was wondering if there would be any problems
 when upgrading? Anything particular I should think of?

My advice is to redo your server.xml file from scratch... ...much safer and 
will cause you less headaches.

I recently moved from Tomcat 4 to Tomcat 5 and had a few minor glitches until 
I took the time to recreate the server.xml file using the server.minimal.xml 
file in the same directory.

 Regards,

 BTJ
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