Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS
Quite right. As I'm involved in both development, deployment and maintenance, portability and security are key issues. Apache does support ASP, I think, but I don't quite trust that if I can help it. What about Perl? I still like to use it for small, quick jobs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: August Detlefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 27 February, 2002 4:06 AM Subject: Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS There are a couple of reasons to pick JSP. I usually tell bosses that we use java because it is easy to replicate across multiple hardware as the demand for the app grows (They love thinking about growing demand). Security is an issue too, especially with M$ products (not sure about PHP). How many viruses have we seen in the past few years effecting IIS, Exchange and NT? There are some good whitepapers comparing JSP to other technologies on the JavaSoft site. here's one: Comparing Methods For Server-Side Dynamic Content White Paper http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jspservlet.html Decisions, Decisions: J2EETM vs. .NET http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=J2EE-vs-DOTNET --- hanasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are your boss' looking for? What motivates them? Keith Ng wrote: nono dun get me wrong im currently doing a J2EE project based on servlets/jsp/javamail/jdbc/possibly EJB(low possibility) there are 2 things i need to do. 1)i need to noe if i ve been missing out on some of the capabilities, which i did not implement 2) i need to write in my report the major advantages my web application has over the others. I noe jsp/servlets are the best around but i cant quite explain. However, some kind souls have emailed me and explained to me and help clear some of my doubts. -Original Message- From: Rick K [mailto:xiaoli_wang;isoftel.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:41 PM To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS --- Keith Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys There has been a question thats bugging me for qute some time. I noticed many bank sites, or big companies use JSP/SERVLETS for their websites. Is there a particular reason why jsp/servlets are preferred over asp/php/coldfusion? I even realise a site (dbs.com.sg)using applet textfield as their forms ... isit supposed to be more secure this way? Can someone clear my doubts? thanks Why does it bug you that big companies use servlets and JSP? Why do you have doubts about Java? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org Troubles with the list: mailto:tomcat-user-owner;jakarta.apache.org _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org Troubles with the list: mailto:tomcat-user-owner;jakarta.apache.org -- = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = Spam : Unhealthy and High in Sodium and Cholesterol = = -- To unsubscribe: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS
Hi! Usually the good separation (called Model 2) between business logic, data and presentation is the best reason you can give them. Plus you can switch the vendor of your middleware(database, application server, ). A lot of these thing you can find in JSP, Servlets specs. Best regards, Kovi At 15:46 2.3.2002 +0800, you wrote: nono dun get me wrong im currently doing a J2EE project based on servlets/jsp/javamail/jdbc/possibly EJB(low possibility) there are 2 things i need to do. 1)i need to noe if i ve been missing out on some of the capabilities, which i did not implement 2) i need to write in my report the major advantages my web application has over the others. I noe jsp/servlets are the best around but i cant quite explain. However, some kind souls have emailed me and explained to me and help clear some of my doubts. -Original Message- From: Rick K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:41 PM To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS --- Keith Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys There has been a question thats bugging me for qute some time. I noticed many bank sites, or big companies use JSP/SERVLETS for their websites. Is there a particular reason why jsp/servlets are preferred over asp/php/coldfusion? I even realise a site (dbs.com.sg)using applet textfield as their forms ... isit supposed to be more secure this way? Can someone clear my doubts? thanks Why does it bug you that big companies use servlets and JSP? Why do you have doubts about Java? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS
What are your boss' looking for? What motivates them? Keith Ng wrote: nono dun get me wrong im currently doing a J2EE project based on servlets/jsp/javamail/jdbc/possibly EJB(low possibility) there are 2 things i need to do. 1)i need to noe if i ve been missing out on some of the capabilities, which i did not implement 2) i need to write in my report the major advantages my web application has over the others. I noe jsp/servlets are the best around but i cant quite explain. However, some kind souls have emailed me and explained to me and help clear some of my doubts. -Original Message- From: Rick K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:41 PM To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS --- Keith Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys There has been a question thats bugging me for qute some time. I noticed many bank sites, or big companies use JSP/SERVLETS for their websites. Is there a particular reason why jsp/servlets are preferred over asp/php/coldfusion? I even realise a site (dbs.com.sg)using applet textfield as their forms ... isit supposed to be more secure this way? Can someone clear my doubts? thanks Why does it bug you that big companies use servlets and JSP? Why do you have doubts about Java? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = Spam : Unhealthy and High in Sodium and Cholesterol = = -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS
There are a couple of reasons to pick JSP. I usually tell bosses that we use java because it is easy to replicate across multiple hardware as the demand for the app grows (They love thinking about growing demand). Security is an issue too, especially with M$ products (not sure about PHP). How many viruses have we seen in the past few years effecting IIS, Exchange and NT? There are some good whitepapers comparing JSP to other technologies on the JavaSoft site. here's one: Comparing Methods For Server-Side Dynamic Content White Paper http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jspservlet.html Decisions, Decisions: J2EETM vs. .NET http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=J2EE-vs-DOTNET --- hanasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are your boss' looking for? What motivates them? Keith Ng wrote: nono dun get me wrong im currently doing a J2EE project based on servlets/jsp/javamail/jdbc/possibly EJB(low possibility) there are 2 things i need to do. 1)i need to noe if i ve been missing out on some of the capabilities, which i did not implement 2) i need to write in my report the major advantages my web application has over the others. I noe jsp/servlets are the best around but i cant quite explain. However, some kind souls have emailed me and explained to me and help clear some of my doubts. -Original Message- From: Rick K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:41 PM To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS --- Keith Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys There has been a question thats bugging me for qute some time. I noticed many bank sites, or big companies use JSP/SERVLETS for their websites. Is there a particular reason why jsp/servlets are preferred over asp/php/coldfusion? I even realise a site (dbs.com.sg)using applet textfield as their forms ... isit supposed to be more secure this way? Can someone clear my doubts? thanks Why does it bug you that big companies use servlets and JSP? Why do you have doubts about Java? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = Spam : Unhealthy and High in Sodium and Cholesterol = = -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS
Quite right. As I'm involved in both development, deployment and maintenance, portability and security are key issues. Apache does support ASP, I think, but I don't quite trust that if I can help it. What about Perl? I still like to use it for small, quick jobs. - Original Message - From: August Detlefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 27 February, 2002 4:06 AM Subject: Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS There are a couple of reasons to pick JSP. I usually tell bosses that we use java because it is easy to replicate across multiple hardware as the demand for the app grows (They love thinking about growing demand). Security is an issue too, especially with M$ products (not sure about PHP). How many viruses have we seen in the past few years effecting IIS, Exchange and NT? There are some good whitepapers comparing JSP to other technologies on the JavaSoft site. here's one: Comparing Methods For Server-Side Dynamic Content White Paper http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jspservlet.html Decisions, Decisions: J2EETM vs. .NET http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=J2EE-vs-DOTNET --- hanasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are your boss' looking for? What motivates them? Keith Ng wrote: nono dun get me wrong im currently doing a J2EE project based on servlets/jsp/javamail/jdbc/possibly EJB(low possibility) there are 2 things i need to do. 1)i need to noe if i ve been missing out on some of the capabilities, which i did not implement 2) i need to write in my report the major advantages my web application has over the others. I noe jsp/servlets are the best around but i cant quite explain. However, some kind souls have emailed me and explained to me and help clear some of my doubts. -Original Message- From: Rick K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:41 PM To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS --- Keith Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys There has been a question thats bugging me for qute some time. I noticed many bank sites, or big companies use JSP/SERVLETS for their websites. Is there a particular reason why jsp/servlets are preferred over asp/php/coldfusion? I even realise a site (dbs.com.sg)using applet textfield as their forms ... isit supposed to be more secure this way? Can someone clear my doubts? thanks Why does it bug you that big companies use servlets and JSP? Why do you have doubts about Java? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = Spam : Unhealthy and High in Sodium and Cholesterol = = -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS
nono dun get me wrong im currently doing a J2EE project based on servlets/jsp/javamail/jdbc/possibly EJB(low possibility) there are 2 things i need to do. 1)i need to noe if i ve been missing out on some of the capabilities, which i did not implement 2) i need to write in my report the major advantages my web application has over the others. I noe jsp/servlets are the best around but i cant quite explain. However, some kind souls have emailed me and explained to me and help clear some of my doubts. -Original Message- From: Rick K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:41 PM To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS --- Keith Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys There has been a question thats bugging me for qute some time. I noticed many bank sites, or big companies use JSP/SERVLETS for their websites. Is there a particular reason why jsp/servlets are preferred over asp/php/coldfusion? I even realise a site (dbs.com.sg)using applet textfield as their forms ... isit supposed to be more secure this way? Can someone clear my doubts? thanks Why does it bug you that big companies use servlets and JSP? Why do you have doubts about Java? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE, JSP, SERVLETS
--- Keith Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nono dun get me wrong im currently doing a J2EE project based on servlets/jsp/javamail/jdbc/possibly EJB(low possibility) there are 2 things i need to do. 1)i need to noe if i ve been missing out on some of the capabilities, which i did not implement 2) i need to write in my report the major advantages my web application has over the others. I noe jsp/servlets are the best around but i cant quite explain. However, some kind souls have emailed me and explained to me and help clear some of my doubts. Please share your conclusions. To throw in my two cents regarding servlets over other technologies: ASP: It's from Microsoft, and a lot of people don't trust Microsoft. Plus their solutions are easy to initially implement but difficult to maintain and extend. Plus it's ONLY from Microsoft. So if you like ASP but don't like how MS treats you or how much they charge, you have nowhere to go. PHP: I haven't done much with PHP, but I think a couple of disadvantages compared to servlets/JSP are: 1.I don't think PHP can handle threads. 2. Unlike Java, PHP really can't be used in non-web apps. ColdFusion: Don't know much about it. But again I believe there is only one vendor. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
