Re: JSP architecture resources

2001-05-16 Thread Milt Epstein

On Wed, 16 May 2001, Will Glass-Husain wrote:

 Hi,

 I've just completed my first JSP project and want to refactor it
 into a more robust code base.  This will allow me to easily reuse it
 for similar projects in the future.  I found that learning the JSP
 syntax was pretty easy, but my resulting architecture is a bit of a
 mess.

 Any recommendations for books or online resources I can use to learn
 more about architecture conventions for JSP and servlets?  I've come
 across many brief descriptions of Model View Controller, for
 example.  What's a good site to learn more about MVC?

Here's something that I think you'll find helpful:

ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/conference/java2001/McClanahan.sdd

(FWIW, sdd files were new to me, but I know that Star Office can
handle them.)

It's a presentation by Craig McClanahan (one of the Tomcat
developers), which he gave at O'Reilly's recent Java conference.  He's
done similar ones at other conferences, perhaps ApacheCon's and
JavaOne's (I believe he's doing something along these lines at the
upcoming JavaOne).  I think it does a very nice job organizing some of
the JSP/servlet architecture options.  (I can't recall how much it
gets into MVC.)

You might also check javaworld.  Here's an URL I have saved for an
article there about MVC in the context of servlets:

http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-1999/jw-12-ssj-jspmvc.html

I'm sure they have lots of other stuff about MVC, so you might do a
search there.

And I'm sure there are lots of other relevant, useful resources all
over the web, so you might search around some more (e.g. try google).

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: JSP architecture resources

2001-05-16 Thread JULIEN,TIMOTHY (HP-NewJersey,ex2)

also on the craig mclanahan / MVC tip, check out another Apache project:
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/index.html

( Don't know if this project is mentioned in that presentationbut how
could it not be.;) )
Tim Julien
HP Middleware

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From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:21 PM
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Subject: Re: JSP architecture resources


On Wed, 16 May 2001, Will Glass-Husain wrote:

 Hi,

 I've just completed my first JSP project and want to refactor it
 into a more robust code base.  This will allow me to easily reuse it
 for similar projects in the future.  I found that learning the JSP
 syntax was pretty easy, but my resulting architecture is a bit of a
 mess.

 Any recommendations for books or online resources I can use to learn
 more about architecture conventions for JSP and servlets?  I've come
 across many brief descriptions of Model View Controller, for
 example.  What's a good site to learn more about MVC?

Here's something that I think you'll find helpful:

ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/conference/java2001/McClanahan.sdd

(FWIW, sdd files were new to me, but I know that Star Office can
handle them.)

It's a presentation by Craig McClanahan (one of the Tomcat
developers), which he gave at O'Reilly's recent Java conference.  He's
done similar ones at other conferences, perhaps ApacheCon's and
JavaOne's (I believe he's doing something along these lines at the
upcoming JavaOne).  I think it does a very nice job organizing some of
the JSP/servlet architecture options.  (I can't recall how much it
gets into MVC.)

You might also check javaworld.  Here's an URL I have saved for an
article there about MVC in the context of servlets:

http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-12-1999/jw-12-ssj-jspmvc.html

I'm sure they have lots of other stuff about MVC, so you might do a
search there.

And I'm sure there are lots of other relevant, useful resources all
over the web, so you might search around some more (e.g. try google).

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: JSP architecture resources

2001-05-16 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy

Check out the discussons on the jakarta turbine page.

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