Re: Mailing List for Security warnings

2003-06-08 Thread Tim Funk
Nope. Typically if a security issue is found, it will be discussed by the 
committers to confirm the vulnerability. A patch and a new release is made. 
The announcement of the vulnerabilty and the new release are usually made at 
the same time.

The annoucement is typically made to:
- tomcat-user
- tomcat-dev
- tomcat-announce (I think this is the name)
-Tim

Ronnie Tartar wrote:
Is there a mailing list for security warnings for tomcat?
 
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RE: Mailing List for Security warnings

2003-06-08 Thread bedetrob
If you mean the HTTP Protocol Error Codes, then you can get them at Jiri
Chudoba's page http://offline.home.cern.ch/offline/web/http_error_codes.html
Rob

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Re: Mailing List for Security warnings

2003-06-08 Thread Jens Skripczynski
Ronnie Tartar:
 Is there a mailing list for security warnings for tomcat?
Are there any security issues in a default tomcat install ?


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Re: Mailing List for Security warnings

2003-06-08 Thread Tim Funk
AFAIK there are no issues with the default install. But the default install 
does include the examples app - which allows any user to view your 
environment and probably set session variables which could easily allow a 
denial of service attack based on memory consumption.

But then again, if one leaves the example webapp available on a production 
box, someone is not doing their job since only absolutely needed webapps 
should be installed and available on a production server. (Why allocate 
memory for a webapp which shouldn't be used?)

-Tim

Jens Skripczynski wrote:
Ronnie Tartar:

Is there a mailing list for security warnings for tomcat?
Are there any security issues in a default tomcat install ?

Ciao

Jens Skripczynski


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Re: Mailing List

2002-10-10 Thread Kwok Peng Tuck

You can search the mailman archive on the web, or ask someone about a 
particular thread.
cheers.


Bala wrote:

I missed a mail from Tomcat Users list. Where and how
can i find it? (Mailing List)

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RE: Mailing List

2002-10-10 Thread Shortt, Kevin


Personally, I like to use MARC (Mailing list ARChive) from 
The Aims Group. (now called 10East)
It stores all messages in mySQL and is searchable. It has a nice
browsable interface for viewing by list, thread or author.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com


The TC list is linked in the Java section and is at:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-userr=1w=2


I hope this helps.

-k


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Re: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread Milt Epstein

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Hanks Mei wrote:

 Hi,

   Well ofcourse I know that the mailing list is heavily loaded, but
 it is going beyond my control...

 Can we have forum kind of mechanism instead, so that the users can
 log in to the net wherein queries/replies can be placed.

  This is my request. I feel that this approach will help the tomcat
 users a lot.

 Any other solutions are welcome...

 It is tooo... much for my mail client and net connection
 to handle, so I am signing off.

 Will look forward for the tomcat forum... ;-)

I think there are a number of reasons why this won't be turned into a
web forum, including some historical ones.  However, with web archives
of mailing lists, including this one, there essentially is a web forum
version already (especially since this list doesn't require you to be
a subscribe in order to post, so you can continue to post questions
via email).

Here are a couple of pages that talk about jakarta-related mailing
lists and archives:

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html

I've found

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/

to be a good archive.

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Systems and Technology Services (STS)
Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
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Re: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread Steve Russell

I think this list would make an excellent usenet group
( comp.lang.java.server-side ? ).

I read the documents that you need to read before writing a usenet new 
newsgroup proposal.

Those docs said it was VITAL to have good justifications for your 
proposed group in your proposal.

According to the docs about the only universally accepted justification 
for a new usenetgroup would be a mailing list under HEAVY, HEAVY traffic.

Thats this list.

If the owners of the list are interested in working with me I'll pitch 
in some work in creating a proposal for a comp.lang.java-server-side

Steve


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RE: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread Turner, John


How about just changing subscription options to digest mode instead?  Easily
done, and can be done on an individual basis.  If this group were to switch
to Usenet, I'd have to unsubscribe.  In my opinion, the only way a Usenet
group makes any sense is if it's moderated.

John Turner
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-Original Message-
From: Steve Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:12 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Mailing List Load Forum???


I think this list would make an excellent usenet group
( comp.lang.java.server-side ? ).

I read the documents that you need to read before writing a usenet new 
newsgroup proposal.

Those docs said it was VITAL to have good justifications for your 
proposed group in your proposal.

According to the docs about the only universally accepted justification 
for a new usenetgroup would be a mailing list under HEAVY, HEAVY traffic.

Thats this list.

If the owners of the list are interested in working with me I'll pitch 
in some work in creating a proposal for a comp.lang.java-server-side

Steve


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Re: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread Milt Epstein

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Steve Russell wrote:

 I think this list would make an excellent usenet group
 ( comp.lang.java.server-side ? ).

 I read the documents that you need to read before writing a usenet new
 newsgroup proposal.

 Those docs said it was VITAL to have good justifications for your
 proposed group in your proposal.

 According to the docs about the only universally accepted justification
 for a new usenetgroup would be a mailing list under HEAVY, HEAVY traffic.

 Thats this list.

 If the owners of the list are interested in working with me I'll pitch
 in some work in creating a proposal for a comp.lang.java-server-side

There was a similar proposal done some time back.  It failed -- barely
-- not that there were a lot of dissenting votes, just not enough
assenting ones.  I don't recall how long ago that vote was, but I
think it's been longer than the six month moratorium before you can
retry it.  If you're really interested in this, you should contact the
person that tried it back then, and see what his plans are, whether he
plans to retry with all the wisdom gained from that experience.  If
so, maybe you can join efforts.  Even if he isn't planning on doing
that, it'd probably be very useful to talk to him.  You can search at
groups.google.com to find out all about it.

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Systems and Technology Services (STS)
Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
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Re: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread Milt Epstein

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Milt Epstein wrote:

 On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Steve Russell wrote:

  I think this list would make an excellent usenet group
  ( comp.lang.java.server-side ? ).
 
  I read the documents that you need to read before writing a usenet new
  newsgroup proposal.
 
  Those docs said it was VITAL to have good justifications for your
  proposed group in your proposal.
 
  According to the docs about the only universally accepted justification
  for a new usenetgroup would be a mailing list under HEAVY, HEAVY traffic.
 
  Thats this list.
 
  If the owners of the list are interested in working with me I'll pitch
  in some work in creating a proposal for a comp.lang.java-server-side

 There was a similar proposal done some time back.  It failed -- barely
 -- not that there were a lot of dissenting votes, just not enough
 assenting ones.  I don't recall how long ago that vote was, but I
 think it's been longer than the six month moratorium before you can
 retry it.  If you're really interested in this, you should contact the
 person that tried it back then, and see what his plans are, whether he
 plans to retry with all the wisdom gained from that experience.  If
 so, maybe you can join efforts.  Even if he isn't planning on doing
 that, it'd probably be very useful to talk to him.  You can search at
 groups.google.com to find out all about it.

Oh, also, any such newsgroup would be totally separate from this
mailing list, I don't think it's going away.

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Systems and Technology Services (STS)
Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
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Re: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Steve Russell wrote:

 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:11:45 -0400
 From: Steve Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Mailing List Load Forum???

 I think this list would make an excellent usenet group
 ( comp.lang.java.server-side ? ).


A couple of big issues to overcome:

* Newsgroups are not accessible to large numbers of people
  behind firewalls that prevent NNTP access.  They are therefore
  not a good approach as the only solution.

* Setting up and administering a mailing list mirrored two-way
  to newsgroups is not a trivial effort -- volunteers to do the
  grunt work would be required.

Craig


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RE: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread Turner, John


Digest mode, I say!  Digest mode!!  :)

John Turner
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-Original Message-
From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:52 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Mailing List Load Forum???




On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Steve Russell wrote:

 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:11:45 -0400
 From: Steve Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Mailing List Load Forum???

 I think this list would make an excellent usenet group
 ( comp.lang.java.server-side ? ).


A couple of big issues to overcome:

* Newsgroups are not accessible to large numbers of people
  behind firewalls that prevent NNTP access.  They are therefore
  not a good approach as the only solution.

* Setting up and administering a mailing list mirrored two-way
  to newsgroups is not a trivial effort -- volunteers to do the
  grunt work would be required.

Craig


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Re: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread STEVE R BURRUS

 Hello there, Milton, this is Steve Burrus again, and since you didn't see fit to
respond back to my email message to u last nite, I thought that I would give you
another electronic shout right now!

 Listen, I think that the proposal to create a comp.lang.java-server-side new
newsgroup is A WONDERFUL IDEA!!!I simply cannot stress/emphasize this enough, as
far as I am personally concerned!!! I mean, I have looked around ALL of the
available newsgroups for some time now and found nothing at all in the way of a
newsgroup that even remotely dealt with the server-side of Java Programming!! And,
I will admit just to u that I am now actively studying to create a career for
myself of being some kind of a server-side Java programmer! I was wondering why
the hell is there not already a server-side Java Programming newsgroup floating
around cyberspace?? Well Milt, will you please try to do a better job of
responding back to me than the poor job that you apparently did last nite?

   Yours Truly,
 Steve R. Burrus
--- Milt Epstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Steve Russell wrote:
 
  I think this list would make an excellent usenet group
  ( comp.lang.java.server-side ? ).
 
  I read the documents that you need to read before writing a usenet new
  newsgroup proposal.
 
  Those docs said it was VITAL to have good justifications for your
  proposed group in your proposal.
 
  According to the docs about the only universally accepted justification
  for a new usenetgroup would be a mailing list under HEAVY, HEAVY traffic.
 
  Thats this list.
 
  If the owners of the list are interested in working with me I'll pitch
  in some work in creating a proposal for a comp.lang.java-server-side
 
 There was a similar proposal done some time back.  It failed -- barely
 -- not that there were a lot of dissenting votes, just not enough
 assenting ones.  I don't recall how long ago that vote was, but I
 think it's been longer than the six month moratorium before you can
 retry it.  If you're really interested in this, you should contact the
 person that tried it back then, and see what his plans are, whether he
 plans to retry with all the wisdom gained from that experience.  If
 so, maybe you can join efforts.  Even if he isn't planning on doing
 that, it'd probably be very useful to talk to him.  You can search at
 groups.google.com to find out all about it.
 
 Milt Epstein
 Research Programmer
 Systems and Technology Services (STS)
 Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread mls

 If the owners of the list are interested in working with me
 I'll pitch in some work in creating a proposal for a 
 comp.lang.java-server-side

Thought this list was specifically for Tomcat and related
issues - not the general java-server-side. If folks want
to go and create a comp.lang.java-server-side independent
of this list, I am all for that.

das

p.s. Once mod_jk and multipart messages are filtered out,
 the load is not too bad...

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RE: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread Jay Burgess

Hey STEVE R BURRUS! (And anyone else that wants to adopt an I EXPECT you 
to help me! attitude.)

It's really bad netiquette to say things like since you didn't see fit to 
respond to my email message to u last nite, and more especially will you 
please try to do a better job of responding back to me than the poor job 
that you apparently did last nite?

Something more along the lines of My message may have gotten lost in the 
mix last night, so I'm resending in case someone can help me out. and I 
don't know if my previous reply got sent correctly, so here's a second 
try. are much more likely to get the desired response.

Be a little courteous, a little humble, and little grateful, and you'd be 
amazed at how much support you'll get in return.

My two cents.

Jay



  -Original Message-
  From: STEVE R BURRUS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:03 PM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Mailing List Load Forum???
 
 
   Hello there, Milton, this is Steve Burrus again, and since
  you didn't see fit to
  respond back to my email message to u last nite, I thought
  that I would give you
  another electronic shout right now!
 
   Listen, I think that the proposal to create a
  comp.lang.java-server-side new
  newsgroup is A WONDERFUL IDEA!!!I simply cannot
  stress/emphasize this enough, as
  far as I am personally concerned!!! I mean, I have looked
  around ALL of the
  available newsgroups for some time now and found nothing at
  all in the way of a
  newsgroup that even remotely dealt with the server-side of
  Java Programming!! And,
  I will admit just to u that I am now actively studying to
  create a career for
  myself of being some kind of a server-side Java programmer! I
  was wondering why
  the hell is there not already a server-side Java Programming
  newsgroup floating
  around cyberspace?? Well Milt, will you please try to do a
  better job of
  responding back to me than the poor job that you apparently
  did last nite?
 
 
  Yours Truly,
 
  Steve R. Burrus
  --- Milt Epstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Steve Russell wrote:
  
I think this list would make an excellent usenet group
( comp.lang.java.server-side ? ).
   
I read the documents that you need to read before writing
  a usenet new
newsgroup proposal.
   
Those docs said it was VITAL to have good justifications for your
proposed group in your proposal.
   
According to the docs about the only universally accepted
  justification
for a new usenetgroup would be a mailing list under
  HEAVY, HEAVY traffic.
   
Thats this list.
   
If the owners of the list are interested in working with
  me I'll pitch
in some work in creating a proposal for a
  comp.lang.java-server-side
  
   There was a similar proposal done some time back.  It
  failed -- barely
   -- not that there were a lot of dissenting votes, just not enough
   assenting ones.  I don't recall how long ago that vote was, but I
   think it's been longer than the six month moratorium before you can
   retry it.  If you're really interested in this, you should
  contact the
   person that tried it back then, and see what his plans are,
  whether he
   plans to retry with all the wisdom gained from that experience.  If
   so, maybe you can join efforts.  Even if he isn't planning on doing
   that, it'd probably be very useful to talk to him.  You can
  search at
   groups.google.com to find out all about it.
  
   Milt Epstein
   Research Programmer
   Systems and Technology Services (STS)
   Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
   University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)


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Re: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread Liam Morley

Milt,
I'm probably coming into this a bit late in the game (and a bit 
uninvolved at that).. but I wound up at 
http://nagoya.apache.org/jive/index.jsp at one point in time, and that 
to me looks very much like a Tomcat forum. What am I missing?

Liam Morley

Milt Epstein wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Hanks Mei wrote:

  

Hi,

  Well ofcourse I know that the mailing list is heavily loaded, but
it is going beyond my control...

Can we have forum kind of mechanism instead, so that the users can
log in to the net wherein queries/replies can be placed.

 This is my request. I feel that this approach will help the tomcat
users a lot.

Any other solutions are welcome...

It is tooo... much for my mail client and net connection
to handle, so I am signing off.

Will look forward for the tomcat forum... ;-)



I think there are a number of reasons why this won't be turned into a
web forum, including some historical ones.  However, with web archives
of mailing lists, including this one, there essentially is a web forum
version already (especially since this list doesn't require you to be
a subscribe in order to post, so you can continue to post questions
via email).

Here are a couple of pages that talk about jakarta-related mailing
lists and archives:

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html

I've found

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/

to be a good archive.

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Systems and Technology Services (STS)
Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
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Re: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread August Detlefsen

Don't forget www.mail-archive.com. They have a great search tool for
this list (and many many others): 

   http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org/

-August





--- Liam Morley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Milt,
 I'm probably coming into this a bit late in the game (and a bit 
 uninvolved at that).. but I wound up at 
 http://nagoya.apache.org/jive/index.jsp at one point in time, and
 that 
 to me looks very much like a Tomcat forum. What am I missing?
 
 Liam Morley
 
 Milt Epstein wrote:
 
 On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Hanks Mei wrote:
 
   
 
 Hi,
 
   Well ofcourse I know that the mailing list is heavily loaded, but
 it is going beyond my control...
 
 Can we have forum kind of mechanism instead, so that the users can
 log in to the net wherein queries/replies can be placed.
 
  This is my request. I feel that this approach will help the tomcat
 users a lot.
 
 Any other solutions are welcome...
 
 It is tooo... much for my mail client and net connection
 to handle, so I am signing off.
 
 Will look forward for the tomcat forum... ;-)
 
 
 
 I think there are a number of reasons why this won't be turned into
 a
 web forum, including some historical ones.  However, with web
 archives
 of mailing lists, including this one, there essentially is a web
 forum
 version already (especially since this list doesn't require you to
 be
 a subscribe in order to post, so you can continue to post questions
 via email).
 
 Here are a couple of pages that talk about jakarta-related mailing
 lists and archives:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html
 
 I've found
 
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/
 
 to be a good archive.
 
 Milt Epstein
 Research Programmer
 Systems and Technology Services (STS)
 Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: Mailing List Load.... Forum???

2002-06-27 Thread Milt Epstein

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Liam Morley wrote:

 Milt,
 I'm probably coming into this a bit late in the game (and a bit
 uninvolved at that).. but I wound up at
 http://nagoya.apache.org/jive/index.jsp at one point in time, and that
 to me looks very much like a Tomcat forum. What am I missing?

I didn't say there weren't web forums for Tomcat and/or servlet
stuff.  I said (or I was trying to say :-) that this list won't be
turned into a web forum, and I was offering a suggestion for how
someone could read/participate in/use this list as a web forum.  It's
one thing to find just any Tomcat-related web forum, it's another
thing to want this list to be turned into a web forum.


 Milt Epstein wrote:

 On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Hanks Mei wrote:
 
   Well ofcourse I know that the mailing list is heavily loaded, but
 it is going beyond my control...
 
 Can we have forum kind of mechanism instead, so that the users can
 log in to the net wherein queries/replies can be placed.
 
  This is my request. I feel that this approach will help the tomcat
 users a lot.
 
 Any other solutions are welcome...
 
 It is tooo... much for my mail client and net connection
 to handle, so I am signing off.
 
 Will look forward for the tomcat forum... ;-)
 
 I think there are a number of reasons why this won't be turned into a
 web forum, including some historical ones.  However, with web archives
 of mailing lists, including this one, there essentially is a web forum
 version already (especially since this list doesn't require you to be
 a subscribe in order to post, so you can continue to post questions
 via email).
 
 Here are a couple of pages that talk about jakarta-related mailing
 lists and archives:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html
 
 I've found
 
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/
 
 to be a good archive.

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Systems and Technology Services (STS)
Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
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RE: Mailing list question

2001-12-06 Thread Justin Rowles

 What sort of turn-around time do you guys (and gals) usually see on
 messages?  

Up to a couple of hours.  I'm in the UK, I don't know where the mailing list
server is physically though.

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Re: Mailing list question

2001-12-05 Thread JStanczak


Does it return you email saying you don't have permission or something like
that?


Thank You,

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Got an obtusely-offtopic question...

I can't seem to successfully post a message from
my   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   email account to
tomcat-user.  However, I can successfully post
messages from my yahoo account.  My ks.uiuc.edu
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I can send and receive mail well with it.. I just
can't seem to post a message to
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RE: Mailing list question

2001-12-05 Thread Jim Rueschhoff

Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] registered as a mailing list user?  I suspect you
get all your messages with your yahoo account and that your uiuc.edu account
is not registered so the newsgroup program is rejecting your messages as
spam attempts.

-Original Message-
From: Kirby Vandivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mailing list question


Got an obtusely-offtopic question...

I can't seem to successfully post a message from
my   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   email account to
tomcat-user.  However, I can successfully post
messages from my yahoo account.  My ks.uiuc.edu
account seems to be working in all other respects.
I can send and receive mail well with it.. I just
can't seem to post a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any ideas what could be causing this and what I can
do about it?

Thanks,

Kirby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Mailing list question

2001-12-05 Thread Kirby Vandivort

Wow.. they magically started working!  I have ks.uiuc.edu registered
with the mailing list.. (i only use my yahoo account if I'm expecting
somewhere to send lots of spam, or in this case, because it was the
only one that worked)

What sort of turn-around time do you guys (and gals) usually see on
messages?  It took me a good 3 hours to see these messages that I had
posted, and then they all showed up at once.  (I'm just asking for
an average here.. I realize that it can vary greatly depending on net
congestion, etc)

Thanks for all the help.  

Kirby

On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 01:49:30PM -0700, Jim Rueschhoff wrote:
 Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] registered as a mailing list user?  I suspect you
 get all your messages with your yahoo account and that your uiuc.edu account
 is not registered so the newsgroup program is rejecting your messages as
 spam attempts.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kirby Vandivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:28 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Mailing list question
 
 
 Got an obtusely-offtopic question...
 
 I can't seem to successfully post a message from
 my   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   email account to
 tomcat-user.  However, I can successfully post
 messages from my yahoo account.  My ks.uiuc.edu
 account seems to be working in all other respects.
 I can send and receive mail well with it.. I just
 can't seem to post a message to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Any ideas what could be causing this and what I can
 do about it?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kirby
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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RE: Mailing list question

2001-12-05 Thread Jim Rueschhoff

My message to you showed up in about 5 seconds after I sent it.

-Original Message-
From: Kirby Vandivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:58 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Mailing list question


Wow.. they magically started working!  I have ks.uiuc.edu registered
with the mailing list.. (i only use my yahoo account if I'm expecting
somewhere to send lots of spam, or in this case, because it was the
only one that worked)

What sort of turn-around time do you guys (and gals) usually see on
messages?  It took me a good 3 hours to see these messages that I had
posted, and then they all showed up at once.  (I'm just asking for
an average here.. I realize that it can vary greatly depending on net
congestion, etc)

Thanks for all the help.

Kirby

On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 01:49:30PM -0700, Jim Rueschhoff wrote:
 Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] registered as a mailing list user?  I suspect you
 get all your messages with your yahoo account and that your uiuc.edu
account
 is not registered so the newsgroup program is rejecting your messages as
 spam attempts.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kirby Vandivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:28 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Mailing list question


 Got an obtusely-offtopic question...

 I can't seem to successfully post a message from
 my   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   email account to
 tomcat-user.  However, I can successfully post
 messages from my yahoo account.  My ks.uiuc.edu
 account seems to be working in all other respects.
 I can send and receive mail well with it.. I just
 can't seem to post a message to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Any ideas what could be causing this and what I can
 do about it?

 Thanks,

 Kirby
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: mailing list or news group??

2001-05-17 Thread Hassan Siddiqui

I agree. I'm a little surprised as to why
they didn't use a newsgroup or web-based forum...

Dario Novakovic wrote:
 
 hi people!
 
 i've been subscribed to this mailing list for some
 time and the only conclusion i've got is
 
 THIS MAILING LIST IS LOOSING ITS PURPOSE
 
 i can't believe that mailing list owners don't realize
 that news groups is perfect solution for this. what am
 i supposed to do with 300 or more mails in my mailbox
 every day? and most of them is i can't unsubscribe.
 worst of all, messages are not threaded so i have to
 chase replies through bunch of messages i am not
 interested in.



RE: mailing list or news group??

2001-05-17 Thread Randy Layman


I would suggest you read the mailing list archives from last
December to understand why a lot of people don't want this to be a news
group.

Randy

 -Original Message-
 From: Dario Novakovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:51 AM
 To: tomcat user mailing list
 Subject: mailing list or news group??
 
 
 hi people!
 
 i've been subscribed to this mailing list for some
 time and the only conclusion i've got is
 
 THIS MAILING LIST IS LOOSING ITS PURPOSE
 
 i can't believe that mailing list owners don't realize
 that news groups is perfect solution for this. what am
 i supposed to do with 300 or more mails in my mailbox
 every day? and most of them is i can't unsubscribe.
 worst of all, messages are not threaded so i have to
 chase replies through bunch of messages i am not
 interested in. 
 i asked three questions during last week and i got no
 answer, i think people able to answer ran away from
 this mailing list because they can't be bothered any
 more.
 please, please switch to news or this list will turn
 into soap.
 
 
 dario
 
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Re: mailing list or news group??

2001-05-17 Thread Brian Murray

My two cents...

News group, web board or mailing list, you still have to write, upload and download 
messages in
some fashion.  If it's for a popular topic there will be lots of traffic, no matter 
how that
traffic is handled.  For a number of reasons, I personally prefer mailing lists to any 
of the
alternatives.

Participants have to supply a working e-mail address to receive messages from a list 
server.  That
inspires a bit more restraint than you see in news groups.  Except for moderated 
groups, any idiot
can spam a news group as much as they like with whatever they like.   If it's a 
moderated group it
may see less off-topic traffic than a mailing list, but it may also see less 
tolerance, less truly
open discussion.

E-mail access is easier to come by than news group or web access.  There are still 
plenty of areas
around the globe in which web access is costly but e-mail access is free thanks to 
things like
hobbyist network gateways.

E-mail is just plain easier to access then web sites or news groups.  There are more 
devices with
which you can accept e-mail than there are devices from which you browse news groups 
or the web. 
Plenty of companies allow their employees unfettered access to e-mail, especially work 
related
e-mail, but it's a very common to restrict or prohibit web and news group access in 
the workplace.

For flexibility in automation and content filtering, e-mail wins hands down.  How many 
news or web
servers allow  users to influence filtering at the server?  Compare your POP3 and IMAP 
options to
your NNTP and HTTP options.  E-mail requires less interaction with the client 
software.  Compare
the number of steps required to find and view all messages from a user named 'Joseph' 
with a
subject containing the string 'virtual' with an e-mail client to the number of steps 
required to
do the same with a web browser and a web board.

Visually and mobility impaired individuals typically have a much easier time with 
e-mail than with
news group or web use.

And if I wasn't dead tired I'm sure I could think of a few more...

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RE: mailing list or news group??

2001-05-17 Thread Warren Crossing

maybe they should keep the tomcat-user list and add a tomcat-luser list =D
geee.. tomcats' such a funny webserver it never falls over. ( lol ) no,
sorry phew.. what do they put in the water round hear =D

-Original Message-
From: Brian Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 18 May 2001 3:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mailing list or news group??


My two cents...

News group, web board or mailing list, you still have to write, upload and
download messages in
some fashion.  If it's for a popular topic there will be lots of traffic, no
matter how that
traffic is handled.  For a number of reasons, I personally prefer mailing
lists to any of the
alternatives.

Participants have to supply a working e-mail address to receive messages
from a list server.  That
inspires a bit more restraint than you see in news groups.  Except for
moderated groups, any idiot
can spam a news group as much as they like with whatever they like.   If
it's a moderated group it
may see less off-topic traffic than a mailing list, but it may also see less
tolerance, less truly
open discussion.

E-mail access is easier to come by than news group or web access.  There are
still plenty of areas
around the globe in which web access is costly but e-mail access is free
thanks to things like
hobbyist network gateways.

E-mail is just plain easier to access then web sites or news groups.  There
are more devices with
which you can accept e-mail than there are devices from which you browse
news groups or the web. 
Plenty of companies allow their employees unfettered access to e-mail,
especially work related
e-mail, but it's a very common to restrict or prohibit web and news group
access in the workplace.

For flexibility in automation and content filtering, e-mail wins hands down.
How many news or web
servers allow  users to influence filtering at the server?  Compare your
POP3 and IMAP options to
your NNTP and HTTP options.  E-mail requires less interaction with the
client software.  Compare
the number of steps required to find and view all messages from a user named
'Joseph' with a
subject containing the string 'virtual' with an e-mail client to the number
of steps required to
do the same with a web browser and a web board.

Visually and mobility impaired individuals typically have a much easier time
with e-mail than with
news group or web use.

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Re: Mailing List Archives?

2001-01-03 Thread Ludovic Maitre

Peter Brandt-Erichsen wrote:
 
 Sorry for the dumb question, but how
 do I access the archives for
 this mailing list?
 
you can find this at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ (Apache section)
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