Re: Memory Usage - Tomcat 5.0.25

2004-08-12 Thread teknokrat
Nandish Rudra wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am writing about this error from yesterday. I used JProfiler to monitor my
memory usage. And am now sure that each and every static object is trashed
when the application is undeployed and the profiler shows that memory is
free and all instance of the objects are GC'd. This works on a Windows 2000
setup of Tomcat 5.0.25 with Java 2 SDK version 1.4.2_04 and Ant 1.6.1, but
fails miserably on GNU Linux 2.4.20-8 setup. this happens with both tomcat
5.0.25 and 5.0.27
Any ideas why something like this could be happening.
Nandish Rudra
ECI Conference call Service LLC.
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:35 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Memory Usage - Tomcat 5.0.25

Hi,
I have a couple of ideas.  One is that your webapp maintain static or
shared references to objects that prevent them from being garbage
collected, and therefore memory from returning to the heap.  Another is
that a webapp undeploy is not guaranteed to reclaim all memory used by
the webapp anyways so to count on this behavior is not smart.  It is
expected that every time you reload your webapp the overall memory usage
of the server will go up a bit, as not all objects are gone (for
example, if you have a static reference than the old classloader and
anything that references it strongly will remain in memory).
Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics

-Original Message-
From: Nandish Rudra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:17 PM
To: Tomcat Users List (E-mail)
Subject: Memory Usage - Tomcat 5.0.25
Hello,
I am having some memory issues while deploing/undeploying web
applications
to Tomcat. I am using Tomcat 5.0.25 with Java 2 SDK version 1.4.2_04
and
Ant
1.6.1 on GNU Linux 2.4.20-8. I use ant to compile my web application
and
Tomcat's catalina-ant.jar to deploy it automatically.
Here is my problem. When I undeploy/remove an application, Tomcat does
not
reclaim the memory being used by the web application and when the
application is re-deployed/re-installed a significant increase in
memory is
seen. This increase is obviously the memory usage by the new instance
of
the
web application.
Does anyone have any idea as to why this is happening?
Try looking at jvmstat (http://developers.sun.com/dev/coolstuff/jvmstat/)
My own tests with show that its the permanent space of objects that gets 
 filled up and not reclaimed after each reload.

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RE: Memory Usage - Tomcat 5.0.25

2004-08-12 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi,

LONG-snip /
Does anyone have any idea as to why this is happening?


Try looking at jvmstat
(http://developers.sun.com/dev/coolstuff/jvmstat/)

My own tests with show that its the permanent space of objects that
gets
  filled up and not reclaimed after each reload.

Yup, that's as expected.

Yoav Shapira

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RE: Memory Usage - Tomcat 5.0.25

2004-08-09 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
I have a couple of ideas.  One is that your webapp maintain static or
shared references to objects that prevent them from being garbage
collected, and therefore memory from returning to the heap.  Another is
that a webapp undeploy is not guaranteed to reclaim all memory used by
the webapp anyways so to count on this behavior is not smart.  It is
expected that every time you reload your webapp the overall memory usage
of the server will go up a bit, as not all objects are gone (for
example, if you have a static reference than the old classloader and
anything that references it strongly will remain in memory).

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


-Original Message-
From: Nandish Rudra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:17 PM
To: Tomcat Users List (E-mail)
Subject: Memory Usage - Tomcat 5.0.25

Hello,

I am having some memory issues while deploing/undeploying web
applications
to Tomcat. I am using Tomcat 5.0.25 with Java 2 SDK version 1.4.2_04
and
Ant
1.6.1 on GNU Linux 2.4.20-8. I use ant to compile my web application
and
Tomcat's catalina-ant.jar to deploy it automatically.

Here is my problem. When I undeploy/remove an application, Tomcat does
not
reclaim the memory being used by the web application and when the
application is re-deployed/re-installed a significant increase in
memory is
seen. This increase is obviously the memory usage by the new instance
of
the
web application.

Does anyone have any idea as to why this is happening?

Regards,
NR


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RE: Memory Usage - Tomcat 5.0.25

2004-08-09 Thread Nandish Rudra
Hello Yaov,

You are correct I do have a few static varibles that point to running
threads and some other objects. When the application is shutdown I ensure
that each thread is destroyed and all static varibales are set to null,
including thread identifiers, this should let my call to GC clear the
memory. 

You are also right in saying that i should not depend on undeploy to reclaim
all memory that the webapp was using, and I don't. Like I mentioned I do
make sure all static variables get set to null before the application shuts
down. It would be understandable if not all memory utilized by the webapp is
reclaimed, but in my case absolutely no memory is being reclaimed. For
example, say, i start tomcat and it starts with 30M initial memory usage
without the application. Now when i deploy the application the size jumps by
8M to 38M. As the app is undeploy and re-deploy the memory usage jumps from
38M to 46-47M.

Now this, if I am not wrong, is not how things should be. I would appreciate
anymore suggestion that you or anyone may have.

Regards,
Nandish
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:35 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Memory Usage - Tomcat 5.0.25



Hi,
I have a couple of ideas.  One is that your webapp maintain static or
shared references to objects that prevent them from being garbage
collected, and therefore memory from returning to the heap.  Another is
that a webapp undeploy is not guaranteed to reclaim all memory used by
the webapp anyways so to count on this behavior is not smart.  It is
expected that every time you reload your webapp the overall memory usage
of the server will go up a bit, as not all objects are gone (for
example, if you have a static reference than the old classloader and
anything that references it strongly will remain in memory).

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


-Original Message-
From: Nandish Rudra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:17 PM
To: Tomcat Users List (E-mail)
Subject: Memory Usage - Tomcat 5.0.25

Hello,

I am having some memory issues while deploing/undeploying web
applications
to Tomcat. I am using Tomcat 5.0.25 with Java 2 SDK version 1.4.2_04
and
Ant
1.6.1 on GNU Linux 2.4.20-8. I use ant to compile my web application
and
Tomcat's catalina-ant.jar to deploy it automatically.

Here is my problem. When I undeploy/remove an application, Tomcat does
not
reclaim the memory being used by the web application and when the
application is re-deployed/re-installed a significant increase in
memory is
seen. This increase is obviously the memory usage by the new instance
of
the
web application.

Does anyone have any idea as to why this is happening?

Regards,
NR


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