Re: getting a reply like this.

2003-06-19 Thread John Turner
There is no admin on the list.  The list is automated.  How would such an 
admin be compensated for their time?  This is the open source world, 
people...things are done for free, voluntarily, but you can't expect 
someone to devote their day to making sure every last email message is 
accounted for, and every subscriber on the list behaves.

All you have to do is set a filter on YOUR end to delete logicaonline.com 
mail.  Problem solved.  Sheesh.

John

On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:21:51 -0700 (PDT), Bikash Paul 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all friends,

Iam also getting that mail whenever i post any query
to this mailing list which "anto" got.If that is the
case which "Andy" drescribed in his reply then Tomcat
Admin should block that [EMAIL PROTECTED] email
id.
Regards
Bikash
--- anto paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Then why not the Tomcat list admin block the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail
id. ?
- Original Message -
From: "Andy Eastham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: getting a reply like this.
> Anto,
>
> When you post to this list, the mail gets
distributed to various
> subscribers, some of whom are behind companies
anti-spam filters that
range
> from crap to fuxxing useless.  These antispam
filters all seem to be
poorly
> written and poorly configured, so that they allow
in most spam but reject
> most legitimate mail.  When they decide that your
message is spam (eg you
> wrote something like "thread xxx has terminated"),
they send you a
message,
> that they somehow think doesn't constitute spam,
back to you to inform you
> that you are the lowest form of low-life on the
planet, even though you
may
> have been actively trying to help one of their
employees for free...
>
> In fact, these anti-spam filters send me more
unwanted mail than do
> spammers.
>
> Rest assured that the annoying message is coming
from individual
recipients
> of the list, and not the list itself.  Most
subscribers will have received
> the message gracefully and not questioned your
legitimacy to exist :-)
>
> All the best,
>
> Andy
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: anto paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 18 June 2003 10:01
> > To: tomcat mail list
> > Subject: Fw: getting a reply like this.
> >
> >
> > When I post to this mailing list I am getting
the following
> > reply. Why I am
> > getting this. Any one else get this ?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:55 PM
> > Subject: RE: How to stop execution of infinite
loop in Tomcat ?
> >
> >
> > > Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > >
> > > Your recent message to this server regarding
`How to stop execution of
> > infinite loop in Tomcat ?`
> > > was not delivered.  Your address is listed in
one or more suppression
> > files
> > > on this server or your account is configured
to allow local mail
traffic
> > only.
> > > Please contact the postmaster at this domain
if additional
> > information is
> > > required.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
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Re: getting a reply like this.

2003-06-19 Thread John Turner
Because there is no admin monitoring the list...it would be a full-time 
job.  Do you want to pay their salary?

The list is automated.

John

On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:25:27 +0530, anto paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Then why not the Tomcat list admin block the [EMAIL PROTECTED] e- 
mail
id. ?
- Original Message -
From: "Andy Eastham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: getting a reply like this.


Anto,

When you post to this list, the mail gets distributed to various
subscribers, some of whom are behind companies anti-spam filters that
range
from crap to fuxxing useless.  These antispam filters all seem to be
poorly
written and poorly configured, so that they allow in most spam but 
reject
most legitimate mail.  When they decide that your message is spam (eg 
you
wrote something like "thread xxx has terminated"), they send you a
message,
that they somehow think doesn't constitute spam, back to you to inform 
you
that you are the lowest form of low-life on the planet, even though you
may
have been actively trying to help one of their employees for free...

In fact, these anti-spam filters send me more unwanted mail than do
spammers.
Rest assured that the annoying message is coming from individual
recipients
of the list, and not the list itself.  Most subscribers will have 
received
the message gracefully and not questioned your legitimacy to exist :-)

All the best,

Andy

> -Original Message-
> From: anto paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 18 June 2003 10:01
> To: tomcat mail list
> Subject: Fw: getting a reply like this.
>
>
> When I post to this mailing list I am getting the following
> reply. Why I am
> getting this. Any one else get this ?
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:55 PM
> Subject: RE: How to stop execution of infinite loop in Tomcat ?
>
>
> > Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >
> > Your recent message to this server regarding `How to stop execution 
of
> infinite loop in Tomcat ?`
> > was not delivered.  Your address is listed in one or more 
suppression
> files
> > on this server or your account is configured to allow local mail
traffic
> only.
> > Please contact the postmaster at this domain if additional
> information is
> > required.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: getting a reply like this.

2003-06-19 Thread Andy Eastham
Jon,

I agree with what you say, except that the list probably thinks the message
send succeeded.  The message isn't bounced back to the list - the spam
warning goes back to the original sender contained in the "From" header.
The spam warning software is ignoring the "Reply-To" header.

Therefore the list may be oblivious to the problems, and the person behind
the firewall may think the list is broken because his posts and replies
don't make it through.

Andy

> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Wingfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 19 June 2003 09:52
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: getting a reply like this.
>
>
> I may be wrong but...
>
> This list knows nothing (as such) about [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Here's what i believe is happening:
>
> 1) You post to the list.
> 2) List delivers said post to all subscribers. One subscriber is, say,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 3) The Mail Daemon/Post Master at logicaonline.com rejects the post
> because the From address domain is hotmail.com and sends a rejection
> response to the From address (you). [EMAIL PROTECTED] is oblivious
>
> The list is probably noting that mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] fail so
> that account may die automatically after a while.
>
> As John Turner noted earlier, it's a miscofiguration of the anti-spam
> filter at logicaonline. Blocking [EMAIL PROTECTED] would have no
> effect as no mails are directly sent to it.
>
> Jon
>
> anto paul wrote:
> > Then why not the Tomcat list admin block the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail
> > id. ?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Andy Eastham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:17 PM
> > Subject: RE: getting a reply like this.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Anto,
> >>
> >>When you post to this list, the mail gets distributed to various
> >>subscribers, some of whom are behind companies anti-spam filters that
> >
> > range
> >
> >>from crap to fuxxing useless.  These antispam filters all seem to be
> >
> > poorly
> >
> >>written and poorly configured, so that they allow in most spam
> but reject
> >>most legitimate mail.  When they decide that your message is
> spam (eg you
> >>wrote something like "thread xxx has terminated"), they send you a
> >
> > message,
> >
> >>that they somehow think doesn't constitute spam, back to you to
> inform you
> >>that you are the lowest form of low-life on the planet, even though you
> >
> > may
> >
> >>have been actively trying to help one of their employees for free...
> >>
> >>In fact, these anti-spam filters send me more unwanted mail than do
> >>spammers.
> >>
> >>Rest assured that the annoying message is coming from individual
> >
> > recipients
> >
> >>of the list, and not the list itself.  Most subscribers will
> have received
> >>the message gracefully and not questioned your legitimacy to exist :-)
> >>
> >>All the best,
> >>
> >>Andy
> >>
> >>
> >>>-Original Message-
> >>>From: anto paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>Sent: 18 June 2003 10:01
> >>>To: tomcat mail list
> >>>Subject: Fw: getting a reply like this.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>When I post to this mailing list I am getting the following
> >>>reply. Why I am
> >>>getting this. Any one else get this ?
> >>>- Original Message -
> >>>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:55 PM
> >>>Subject: RE: How to stop execution of infinite loop in Tomcat ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >>>>
> >>>>Your recent message to this server regarding `How to stop execution of
> >>>
> >>>infinite loop in Tomcat ?`
> >>>
> >>>>was not delivered.  Your address is listed in one or more suppression
> >>>
> >>>files
> >>>
> >>>>on this server or your account is configured to allow local mail
> >
> > traffic
> >
> >>>only.
> >>>
> >>>>Please contact the postmaster at this domain if additional
> >>>
> >>>information is
> >>>
> >>>>required.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thank you,
> >>>>
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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Re: getting a reply like this.

2003-06-19 Thread Jon Wingfield
I may be wrong but...

This list knows nothing (as such) about [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here's what i believe is happening:
1) You post to the list.
2) List delivers said post to all subscribers. One subscriber is, say, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
3) The Mail Daemon/Post Master at logicaonline.com rejects the post 
because the From address domain is hotmail.com and sends a rejection 
response to the From address (you). [EMAIL PROTECTED] is oblivious

The list is probably noting that mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] fail so 
that account may die automatically after a while.

As John Turner noted earlier, it's a miscofiguration of the anti-spam 
filter at logicaonline. Blocking [EMAIL PROTECTED] would have no 
effect as no mails are directly sent to it.

Jon

anto paul wrote:
Then why not the Tomcat list admin block the [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail
id. ?
- Original Message -
From: "Andy Eastham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: getting a reply like this.


Anto,

When you post to this list, the mail gets distributed to various
subscribers, some of whom are behind companies anti-spam filters that
range

from crap to fuxxing useless.  These antispam filters all seem to be
poorly

written and poorly configured, so that they allow in most spam but reject
most legitimate mail.  When they decide that your message is spam (eg you
wrote something like "thread xxx has terminated"), they send you a
message,

that they somehow think doesn't constitute spam, back to you to inform you
that you are the lowest form of low-life on the planet, even though you
may

have been actively trying to help one of their employees for free...

In fact, these anti-spam filters send me more unwanted mail than do
spammers.
Rest assured that the annoying message is coming from individual
recipients

of the list, and not the list itself.  Most subscribers will have received
the message gracefully and not questioned your legitimacy to exist :-)
All the best,

Andy


-Original Message-
From: anto paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 June 2003 10:01
To: tomcat mail list
Subject: Fw: getting a reply like this.
When I post to this mailing list I am getting the following
reply. Why I am
getting this. Any one else get this ?
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: How to stop execution of infinite loop in Tomcat ?


Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Your recent message to this server regarding `How to stop execution of
infinite loop in Tomcat ?`

was not delivered.  Your address is listed in one or more suppression
files

on this server or your account is configured to allow local mail
traffic

only.

Please contact the postmaster at this domain if additional
information is

required.

Thank you,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: getting a reply like this.

2003-06-18 Thread Bikash Paul
Hi all friends,

Iam also getting that mail whenever i post any query
to this mailing list which "anto" got.If that is the
case which "Andy" drescribed in his reply then Tomcat
Admin should block that [EMAIL PROTECTED] email
id.

Regards
Bikash
--- anto paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then why not the Tomcat list admin block the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail
> id. ?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andy Eastham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Tomcat Users List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:17 PM
> Subject: RE: getting a reply like this.
> 
> 
> > Anto,
> >
> > When you post to this list, the mail gets
> distributed to various
> > subscribers, some of whom are behind companies
> anti-spam filters that
> range
> > from crap to fuxxing useless.  These antispam
> filters all seem to be
> poorly
> > written and poorly configured, so that they allow
> in most spam but reject
> > most legitimate mail.  When they decide that your
> message is spam (eg you
> > wrote something like "thread xxx has terminated"),
> they send you a
> message,
> > that they somehow think doesn't constitute spam,
> back to you to inform you
> > that you are the lowest form of low-life on the
> planet, even though you
> may
> > have been actively trying to help one of their
> employees for free...
> >
> > In fact, these anti-spam filters send me more
> unwanted mail than do
> > spammers.
> >
> > Rest assured that the annoying message is coming
> from individual
> recipients
> > of the list, and not the list itself.  Most
> subscribers will have received
> > the message gracefully and not questioned your
> legitimacy to exist :-)
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: anto paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 18 June 2003 10:01
> > > To: tomcat mail list
> > > Subject: Fw: getting a reply like this.
> > >
> > >
> > > When I post to this mailing list I am getting
> the following
> > > reply. Why I am
> > > getting this. Any one else get this ?
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:55 PM
> > > Subject: RE: How to stop execution of infinite
> loop in Tomcat ?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > > >
> > > > Your recent message to this server regarding
> `How to stop execution of
> > > infinite loop in Tomcat ?`
> > > > was not delivered.  Your address is listed in
> one or more suppression
> > > files
> > > > on this server or your account is configured
> to allow local mail
> traffic
> > > only.
> > > > Please contact the postmaster at this domain
> if additional
> > > information is
> > > > required.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: getting a reply like this.

2003-06-18 Thread anto paul
Then why not the Tomcat list admin block the [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail
id. ?
- Original Message -
From: "Andy Eastham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: getting a reply like this.


> Anto,
>
> When you post to this list, the mail gets distributed to various
> subscribers, some of whom are behind companies anti-spam filters that
range
> from crap to fuxxing useless.  These antispam filters all seem to be
poorly
> written and poorly configured, so that they allow in most spam but reject
> most legitimate mail.  When they decide that your message is spam (eg you
> wrote something like "thread xxx has terminated"), they send you a
message,
> that they somehow think doesn't constitute spam, back to you to inform you
> that you are the lowest form of low-life on the planet, even though you
may
> have been actively trying to help one of their employees for free...
>
> In fact, these anti-spam filters send me more unwanted mail than do
> spammers.
>
> Rest assured that the annoying message is coming from individual
recipients
> of the list, and not the list itself.  Most subscribers will have received
> the message gracefully and not questioned your legitimacy to exist :-)
>
> All the best,
>
> Andy
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: anto paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 18 June 2003 10:01
> > To: tomcat mail list
> > Subject: Fw: getting a reply like this.
> >
> >
> > When I post to this mailing list I am getting the following
> > reply. Why I am
> > getting this. Any one else get this ?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:55 PM
> > Subject: RE: How to stop execution of infinite loop in Tomcat ?
> >
> >
> > > Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > >
> > > Your recent message to this server regarding `How to stop execution of
> > infinite loop in Tomcat ?`
> > > was not delivered.  Your address is listed in one or more suppression
> > files
> > > on this server or your account is configured to allow local mail
traffic
> > only.
> > > Please contact the postmaster at this domain if additional
> > information is
> > > required.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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RE: getting a reply like this.

2003-06-18 Thread Andy Eastham
Anto,

When you post to this list, the mail gets distributed to various
subscribers, some of whom are behind companies anti-spam filters that range
from crap to fuxxing useless.  These antispam filters all seem to be poorly
written and poorly configured, so that they allow in most spam but reject
most legitimate mail.  When they decide that your message is spam (eg you
wrote something like "thread xxx has terminated"), they send you a message,
that they somehow think doesn't constitute spam, back to you to inform you
that you are the lowest form of low-life on the planet, even though you may
have been actively trying to help one of their employees for free...

In fact, these anti-spam filters send me more unwanted mail than do
spammers.

Rest assured that the annoying message is coming from individual recipients
of the list, and not the list itself.  Most subscribers will have received
the message gracefully and not questioned your legitimacy to exist :-)

All the best,

Andy

> -Original Message-
> From: anto paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 18 June 2003 10:01
> To: tomcat mail list
> Subject: Fw: getting a reply like this.
>
>
> When I post to this mailing list I am getting the following
> reply. Why I am
> getting this. Any one else get this ?
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:55 PM
> Subject: RE: How to stop execution of infinite loop in Tomcat ?
>
>
> > Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >
> > Your recent message to this server regarding `How to stop execution of
> infinite loop in Tomcat ?`
> > was not delivered.  Your address is listed in one or more suppression
> files
> > on this server or your account is configured to allow local mail traffic
> only.
> > Please contact the postmaster at this domain if additional
> information is
> > required.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: getting a reply like this.

2003-06-18 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
Others have reported this.  For me, it depends on which of my email
accounts I post to this list from.  Someone needs to ask
[EMAIL PROTECTED] what they're doing...

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


>-Original Message-
>From: anto paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 5:01 AM
>To: tomcat mail list
>Subject: Fw: getting a reply like this.
>
>When I post to this mailing list I am getting the following reply. Why
I am
>getting this. Any one else get this ?
>- Original Message -
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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