Re: recommended reading

2002-11-11 Thread Craig R. McClanahan


On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, andreas palsson wrote:

 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:23:42 +0100
 From: andreas palsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: recommended reading

 Hi.

 I am very new to the world of Tomcat and servlets/jsp.
 An interesting world.

 I would like to know if there is some recommended reading. Not about the
 actual configuration, that is not a problem (yet), but I am looking for
 something the explains the concept and philosophy behind Tomcat.


I presume by this that you're primarily interested in the programming
concepts for servlets and JSP pages (and not Tomcat internals), right?  If
so, one useful source of information is the Java Web Services Pack
Tutorial, which includes a pretty large number of pages on these basic
concepts.  The examples are based on using the Java Web Services Developer
Pack, which is based on Tomcat 4.1.x.  Starting point for both:

http://java.sun.com/webservices/

 Anyone have a good pointer?
 --
   andreas


Craig McClanahan



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RE: recommended reading

2002-11-09 Thread Brian Topping
Andreas,

Tomcat is the Sun reference implementation of a J2EE servlet container.
This means that any book on Java Servlets should do justice to Tomcat
architecture and operating principles.  Many books also go into the
configuration of Tomcat as an example of configuring a servlet container,
simply because it is free and readers can easily get their hands on a copy to
try out what they are reading, very convenient for those that want to learn
Tomcat specifically :)

I personally quite like the Wrox Press books, they have a book called
Professional Java Servlets (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2E525662).  It
will explain the intricacies of Servlets, but with little regard for how it
fits into the bigger picture.  

If you are just getting started with servlets and JSP though, you might be
better served to focus on JSP, and learn specifics about Tomcat and Servlets
as you need to.  A component of Tomcat called Jasper basically turns JSPs
into servlets by converting the JSP source into source code for a class that
extends the Servlet base class, which in turn is compiled with the Java
compiler and automatically made available in the Tomcat servlet container.  

JSP is the simple introduction to servlets, since you don't have to worry
about intricacies such as deployment descriptors, web application archives
and Java coding right off the bat.  As well, most experienced programmers use
JSP in their projects as well, so you aren't wasting your time to become a
master of JSP early on.  

If that sounds like something that you are interested in, another Wrox book I
like is Professional JSP, Second Edition
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?D5D523662).  It's actually sitting on my desk,
right next to my EJB book, and the servlets book is on the shelf, (an
indication that the servlets stuff both isn't as important on a daily basis
as well...).  The first couple of chapters describe the basics of servlets
and how they fit into the J2EE model (kind of what you are looking for now),
then start getting into how a JSP is just a servlet, with the rest of the
book devoted to techniques for getting the most out of JSP.  It's over 1,100
pages, and definitely one of those books I wish that I had purchased much
sooner than I actually did.

Good luck, feel free to drop a line off-list...

-b

 -Original Message-
 From: andreas palsson [mailto:andreas;muha.net]
 Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:24 PM
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 Subject: recommended reading
 
 
 Hi.
 
 I am very new to the world of Tomcat and servlets/jsp.
 An interesting world.
 
 I would like to know if there is some recommended reading.
 Not about the actual configuration, that is not a problem 
 (yet), but I am looking for something the explains the 
 concept and philosophy behind Tomcat.
 
 Anyone have a good pointer?
 -- 
   andreas
 
 
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Re: recommended reading

2002-11-09 Thread Hamraoui
Dans un e-mail daté du 10/11/2002 01:24:30 Paris, Madrid, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a 
écrit :

http://www.moreservlets.com

Mohammed
 Hi.
 
 I am very new to the world of Tomcat and servlets/jsp.
 An interesting world.
 
 I would like to know if there is some recommended reading.
 Not about the actual configuration, that is not a problem (yet), but I am 
 looking for something the explains the concept and philosophy behind 
 Tomcat.
 
 Anyone have a good pointer?
 




Re: recommended reading

2002-11-09 Thread Steven J. Owens
andreas palsson [mailto:andreas;muha.net] wrote:
  I am very new to the world of Tomcat and servlets/jsp.
  An interesting world.
  I would like to know if there is some recommended reading.
  Not about the actual configuration, that is not a problem 
  (yet), but I am looking for something the explains the 
  concept and philosophy behind Tomcat.
  Anyone have a good pointer?

On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:36:50PM -0500, Brian Topping wrote:
 [...some cogent recommendations for tomcat-related reading...]

 I saw a book on JBOSS the other day, though I didn't have time to
read it.  JBOSS is an open-source J2EE web application server that
uses Tomcat for the JSP/servlets piece, so it might have some sections
dealing specifically with Tomcat.  I'll likely pick up a copy of the
book sometime soon, just on general principles.

 My recommendations for books on the more general topics of
servlets, J2EE stuff, etc, as well as a cursory overview of J2EE, can
be found at:

 http://darksleep.com/puff/writings/j2eeoverview.html

Steven J. Owens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm going to make broad, sweeping generalizations and strong,
 declarative statements, because otherwise I'll be here all night and
 this document will be four times longer and much less fun to read.
 Take it all with a grain of salt. - Me at http://darksleep.com


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