Re: Re[2]: Tomcat 5 for production?

2004-01-23 Thread Ben Souther
Did you contact whomever wrote the app that you are trying to run to ask if 
it is supported on Tomcat 5x?  You might want to do that before getting on 
the this list and dispensing advise regarding the stability of Tomcat.  

If you're not a J developer [sic] and the app works perfectly on version  4, 
why are you trying to upgrade to version 5?  The goal/mission for Tomcat is 
to be in 100% compliance with the Servlet/JSP specs, not to maintain backward 
compatibility with every app written for it.   If the specs shift or become 
more specific, the next version of tomcat will will change to accommodate 
them.  It's then up to the application developers to ensure that their apps 
are spec compliant if they want them to continue to run on current releases.




On Thursday 22 January 2004 10:14 pm, you wrote:
 Yeah, but I have upgraded to 18 and I still have this memory
 problem. Why? I've tried to use one scientific server-based
 application, which documentation recommends to use Apache Tomcat. And its
 doesnt work well (sometimes tomcat doesnt respond to requests,
 sometimes shows 500). So I've reinstalled on thesame server Apache but
 with Jboss and I dont have any problem till now. In this case I dont
 care which purposes have the server, this application must work;) And
 the real problem, I think - in version 5, because 4 (which engine
 uses Jboss) works perfectly. But who knows...

 Hello, Ben. You wrote:

 BS JBoss uses Tomcat as it's servlet engine.
 BS They server two different purposes.

 BS There was a memory leak fixed in 5.0.18. Other than that Tomcat 5x is
 very BS solid.  It's been out of beta for over a month.

 BS On Tuesday 20 January 2004 07:25 pm, you wrote:
  Tomcat 5.0.18 more stable than 16, but it still have a lot of errors and
  bugs. If somebody will ask me I will recommend Jboss for the same
  purposes.
 
  Hello, Katz.
 
  19  2004 ., 5:54:18 you wrote:
 
  KG Hi;
  KG I am a bi confused.
  KG It the current release of 5.0.16 stable a production ready release?
  KG If not, when could we expect a tomcat 5.x which is ready for
  production. KG P.S: when I say ready for production I think of non beta
  and ok with KG licensing. (never mind the bugs)
  KG Thanks in advance.

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Re[2]: Tomcat 5 for production?

2004-01-23 Thread Candyman
Hello, Remy.

You right. The memory leak isnt significant. As I find out now from
other people - its have a normal limits. About errors - I will speak
with my boss - I have idea to do that, but for now I dont have rights.
The other thing - somebody must to know at least basics of the
Geomatica Webserver architecture - than I can explain whats happens
exactly. I am really dont understand why it happens because all other
servlets works fine with Apache Tomcat. But since I have a first error
500 when I've tryed to use it with our Webserver -its doesnt work
well. I reinstall everything, I have start it and - it has happend
again. While Apache hangs up - our application works perfectly like
nothing happens.

Thanks.

23  2004 ., 8:02:57 you wrote:

RM Candyman wrote:
 Sorry, my mistake. In my case SOMETIMES I have errors with 5.18 which i doesnt
 have with Jboss3. SOMETIMES it doesnt repond, and SOMETIMES it has an
 Internal error in one request, but in with the next try it works
 perfectly. Ive tryed reinstall it and reconfigure more than 5 times
 without any success. So for now I am using Jboss. Maybe I am wrong,
 but I have problems with 18 - thats all.

RM This is not very conclusive ...

RM You should post some of the errors you get, maybe that will help.

RM On a general note, TC 5 is very close to 4.1 architecture wise. There
RM can be oversights, such as that memory leak caused by JMX statistics,
RM but I don't think there will be too many of these.




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Re[2]: Tomcat 5 for production?

2004-01-22 Thread Candyman
Yeah, but I have upgraded to 18 and I still have this memory
problem. Why? I've tried to use one scientific server-based
application, which documentation recommends to use Apache Tomcat. And its
doesnt work well (sometimes tomcat doesnt respond to requests,
sometimes shows 500). So I've reinstalled on thesame server Apache but
with Jboss and I dont have any problem till now. In this case I dont
care which purposes have the server, this application must work;) And
the real problem, I think - in version 5, because 4 (which engine
uses Jboss) works perfectly. But who knows...

Hello, Ben. You wrote:

BS JBoss uses Tomcat as it's servlet engine.
BS They server two different purposes.

BS There was a memory leak fixed in 5.0.18. Other than that Tomcat 5x is very
BS solid.  It's been out of beta for over a month.


BS On Tuesday 20 January 2004 07:25 pm, you wrote:
 Tomcat 5.0.18 more stable than 16, but it still have a lot of errors and
 bugs. If somebody will ask me I will recommend Jboss for the same
 purposes.

 Hello, Katz.

 19  2004 ., 5:54:18 you wrote:

 KG Hi;
 KG I am a bi confused.
 KG It the current release of 5.0.16 stable a production ready release?
 KG If not, when could we expect a tomcat 5.x which is ready for
 production. KG P.S: when I say ready for production I think of non beta
 and ok with KG licensing. (never mind the bugs)
 KG Thanks in advance.

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Re[2]: Tomcat 5 for production?

2004-01-22 Thread Candyman
Sorry, my mistake. In my case SOMETIMES I have errors with 5.18 which i doesnt
have with Jboss3. SOMETIMES it doesnt repond, and SOMETIMES it has an
Internal error in one request, but in with the next try it works
perfectly. Ive tryed reinstall it and reconfigure more than 5 times
without any success. So for now I am using Jboss. Maybe I am wrong,
but I have problems with 18 - thats all.


Hello, Jeanfrancois.

20  2004 ., 23:28:49 you wrote:



JA Candyman wrote:

Tomcat 5.0.18 more stable than 16, but it still have a lot of errors and
bugs. 

JA He! before making such statement, can you dress a list of lot of errors
JA and bugs? Your statement is completely wrong.  There is not a lot of
JA errors and bugs:

 http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDemail1=emailtype1=substringemailassigned_to1=1email2=emailtype2=substringemailreporter2=1bugidtype=includebug_id=changedin=votes=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=product=Tomcat+5short_desc=short_desc_type=allwordssubstrlong_desc=long_desc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrkeywords=keywords_type=anywordsfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0=cmdtype=doitorder=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time



JA -- Jeanfrancois


If somebody will ask me I will recommend Jboss for the same
purposes.

Hello, Katz.

19  2004 ., 5:54:18 you wrote:

KG Hi;
KG I am a bi confused.
KG It the current release of 5.0.16 stable a production ready release?
KG If not, when could we expect a tomcat 5.x which is ready for production.
KG P.S: when I say ready for production I think of non beta and ok with
KG licensing. (never mind the bugs)
KG Thanks in advance.



  



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