Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Carlos
Hi Forum,

 

Could someone recommend settings for using the log rotation of Webmin in
order to rotate catalina.out (any cautionary measures)?  I just created an
entry in Webmin to rotate the catalina.out file weekly with all the default
settings (keeping the last four copies).  Are there any scripts I should run
before or after the rotation is carried out?



Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev
if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and you will 
lose all further output.

with cronolog you simply pipe it through cronolog like this


your java start command | /usr/local/sbin/cronolog 
$CATALINA_BASE$/logs/%Y-%m-%d.catalina.out  /dev/null 21 

this will rotate the logs daily

Filip

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Forum,

 

Could someone recommend settings for using the log rotation of Webmin in
order to rotate catalina.out (any cautionary measures)?  I just created an
entry in Webmin to rotate the catalina.out file weekly with all the default
settings (keeping the last four copies).  Are there any scripts I should run
before or after the rotation is carried out?



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RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
As usual, the advice is also to minimize System.out logging.  If you
can't modify the app code using System.out logging, add
swallowOutput=true to your context declaration to make System.out go
to the Loggers defined in Tomcat's server.xml.  Those are automatically
rotated for you.

(Note this all applies to Tomcat 5.0.x and older, not to 5.5 and newer)

Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com


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From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and
you
will lose all further output.

with cronolog you simply pipe it through cronolog like this


your java start command | /usr/local/sbin/cronolog
$CATALINA_BASE$/logs/%Y-%m-%d.catalina.out  /dev/null 21

this will rotate the logs daily

Filip

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Subject: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Forum,



Could someone recommend settings for using the log rotation of Webmin
in
order to rotate catalina.out (any cautionary measures)?  I just created
an
entry in Webmin to rotate the catalina.out file weekly with all the
default
settings (keeping the last four copies).  Are there any scripts I
should
run
before or after the rotation is carried out?



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RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Carlos Oliva
Hi Filip,
I set-up the Webmin Log Rotation entry to the following:
1) Re-create log file after rotation? Yes, with mode  and owned by user
and group
   
2) Store old rotated logs in Directory   
Same directory as log file
Default (Same directory as log file)
  
3) Extension for rotated filenames  Default

Should not this maintain the file handle?

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From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and you
will lose all further output.

with cronolog you simply pipe it through cronolog like this


your java start command | /usr/local/sbin/cronolog
$CATALINA_BASE$/logs/%Y-%m-%d.catalina.out  /dev/null 21 

this will rotate the logs daily

Filip

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Subject: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Forum,

 

Could someone recommend settings for using the log rotation of Webmin in
order to rotate catalina.out (any cautionary measures)?  I just created an
entry in Webmin to rotate the catalina.out file weekly with all the default
settings (keeping the last four copies).  Are there any scripts I should run
before or after the rotation is carried out?



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RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Phillip Qin
I found that logrotate is the easiest.

-Original Message-
From: Carlos Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: November 15, 2004 3:28 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Filip,
I set-up the Webmin Log Rotation entry to the following:
1) Re-create log file after rotation? Yes, with mode  and owned by user and
group
   
2) Store old rotated logs in Directory   
Same directory as log file
Default (Same directory as log file)
  
3) Extension for rotated filenames  Default

Should not this maintain the file handle?

-Original Message-
From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:19 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and you
will lose all further output.

with cronolog you simply pipe it through cronolog like this


your java start command | /usr/local/sbin/cronolog
$CATALINA_BASE$/logs/%Y-%m-%d.catalina.out  /dev/null 21 

this will rotate the logs daily

Filip

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Forum,

 

Could someone recommend settings for using the log rotation of Webmin in
order to rotate catalina.out (any cautionary measures)?  I just created an
entry in Webmin to rotate the catalina.out file weekly with all the default
settings (keeping the last four copies).  Are there any scripts I should run
before or after the rotation is carried out?



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Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev
nope, the moment you execute the mv the file handle has moved. switch to 
cronolog to save you some time,
cronolog might recreate the file for you to, so no handle is ever lost, try it 
before you come back to the list :)


Filip

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Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Filip,
I set-up the Webmin Log Rotation entry to the following:
1) Re-create log file after rotation? Yes, with mode  and owned by user
and group
   
2) Store old rotated logs in Directory   
Same directory as log file
Default (Same directory as log file)
  
3) Extension for rotated filenames  Default

Should not this maintain the file handle?

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From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:19 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and you
will lose all further output.

with cronolog you simply pipe it through cronolog like this


your java start command | /usr/local/sbin/cronolog
$CATALINA_BASE$/logs/%Y-%m-%d.catalina.out  /dev/null 21 

this will rotate the logs daily

Filip

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Forum,

 

Could someone recommend settings for using the log rotation of Webmin in
order to rotate catalina.out (any cautionary measures)?  I just created an
entry in Webmin to rotate the catalina.out file weekly with all the default
settings (keeping the last four copies).  Are there any scripts I should run
before or after the rotation is carried out?



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RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Carlos Oliva
Hi Phillip,
Since Webmin uses logrotate could I just create a simple entry with Webmin?
Or do I need to specify other settings?

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From: Phillip Qin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:31 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

I found that logrotate is the easiest.

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From: Carlos Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: November 15, 2004 3:28 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Filip,
I set-up the Webmin Log Rotation entry to the following:
1) Re-create log file after rotation? Yes, with mode  and owned by user and
group
   
2) Store old rotated logs in Directory   
Same directory as log file
Default (Same directory as log file)
  
3) Extension for rotated filenames  Default

Should not this maintain the file handle?

-Original Message-
From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:19 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and you
will lose all further output.

with cronolog you simply pipe it through cronolog like this


your java start command | /usr/local/sbin/cronolog
$CATALINA_BASE$/logs/%Y-%m-%d.catalina.out  /dev/null 21 

this will rotate the logs daily

Filip

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Forum,

 

Could someone recommend settings for using the log rotation of Webmin in
order to rotate catalina.out (any cautionary measures)?  I just created an
entry in Webmin to rotate the catalina.out file weekly with all the default
settings (keeping the last four copies).  Are there any scripts I should run
before or after the rotation is carried out?



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RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Phillip Qin
I don't know how to use webadmin. I did it in command line (Debian)

/etc/logrotate.d


/usr/local/jakarta-tomcat-4.1.30/logs/catalina.out {
rotate 5
weekly
compress
delaycompress
notifempty
missingok
create 0640 tu3404nl tu3404nl
}


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From: Carlos Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: November 15, 2004 3:37 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Phillip,
Since Webmin uses logrotate could I just create a simple entry with Webmin?
Or do I need to specify other settings?

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Qin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:31 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

I found that logrotate is the easiest.

-Original Message-
From: Carlos Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: November 15, 2004 3:28 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Filip,
I set-up the Webmin Log Rotation entry to the following:
1) Re-create log file after rotation? Yes, with mode  and owned by user and
group
   
2) Store old rotated logs in Directory   
Same directory as log file
Default (Same directory as log file)
  
3) Extension for rotated filenames  Default

Should not this maintain the file handle?

-Original Message-
From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:19 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and you
will lose all further output.

with cronolog you simply pipe it through cronolog like this


your java start command | /usr/local/sbin/cronolog
$CATALINA_BASE$/logs/%Y-%m-%d.catalina.out  /dev/null 21 

this will rotate the logs daily

Filip

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From: Carlos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Forum,

 

Could someone recommend settings for using the log rotation of Webmin in
order to rotate catalina.out (any cautionary measures)?  I just created an
entry in Webmin to rotate the catalina.out file weekly with all the default
settings (keeping the last four copies).  Are there any scripts I should run
before or after the rotation is carried out?



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Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread erh
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 02:36:57PM -0600, Filip Hanik - Dev wrote:
 nope, the moment you execute the mv the file handle has moved. switch to 
 cronolog to save you some time,
 cronolog might recreate the file for you to, so no handle is ever lost, try 
 it before you come back to the list :)
 
[...snip...]
 if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
 You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and you
 will lose all further output.

This is incorrect.  A reference to an open file stays perfectly valid
regardless of what is done to the name of the file.  You can even remove
the file entirely and any previously opened file handle will continue to
function (and take up disk space!).

Renaming a file changes the way you get access to the underlying
file object but does not change the object itself.  Since a file handle
that a process has refers to the the underlying object, not the name,
output will continue to be written to the original file and the new
catalina.out will remain empty.

eric

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Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev
this was not the case when using a java.io.FileOutputStream(), so I assume you 
tried and verified this :)

Filip
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 02:36:57PM -0600, Filip Hanik - Dev wrote:
 nope, the moment you execute the mv the file handle has moved. switch to 
 cronolog to save you some time,
 cronolog might recreate the file for you to, so no handle is ever lost, try 
 it before you come back to the list :)
 
[...snip...]
 if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
 You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and you
 will lose all further output.

This is incorrect.  A reference to an open file stays perfectly valid
regardless of what is done to the name of the file.  You can even remove
the file entirely and any previously opened file handle will continue to
function (and take up disk space!).

Renaming a file changes the way you get access to the underlying
file object but does not change the object itself.  Since a file handle
that a process has refers to the the underlying object, not the name,
output will continue to be written to the original file and the new
catalina.out will remain empty.

eric

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RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Carlos Oliva
Hi Phillip,
Why do you re-create the file?  Is it not enough to truncate it?

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From: Phillip Qin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

I don't know how to use webadmin. I did it in command line (Debian)

/etc/logrotate.d


/usr/local/jakarta-tomcat-4.1.30/logs/catalina.out {
rotate 5
weekly
compress
delaycompress
notifempty
missingok
create 0640 tu3404nl tu3404nl
}


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From: Carlos Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: November 15, 2004 3:37 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Phillip,
Since Webmin uses logrotate could I just create a simple entry with Webmin?
Or do I need to specify other settings?

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Qin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:31 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

I found that logrotate is the easiest.

-Original Message-
From: Carlos Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: November 15, 2004 3:28 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Filip,
I set-up the Webmin Log Rotation entry to the following:
1) Re-create log file after rotation? Yes, with mode  and owned by user and
group
   
2) Store old rotated logs in Directory   
Same directory as log file
Default (Same directory as log file)
  
3) Extension for rotated filenames  Default

Should not this maintain the file handle?

-Original Message-
From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:19 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and you
will lose all further output.

with cronolog you simply pipe it through cronolog like this


your java start command | /usr/local/sbin/cronolog
$CATALINA_BASE$/logs/%Y-%m-%d.catalina.out  /dev/null 21 

this will rotate the logs daily

Filip

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From: Carlos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Forum,

 

Could someone recommend settings for using the log rotation of Webmin in
order to rotate catalina.out (any cautionary measures)?  I just created an
entry in Webmin to rotate the catalina.out file weekly with all the default
settings (keeping the last four copies).  Are there any scripts I should run
before or after the rotation is carried out?



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RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread Phillip Qin
I don't remember. I think logrotate recreates it anyway.

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Hi Phillip,
Why do you re-create the file?  Is it not enough to truncate it?

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From: Phillip Qin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:53 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

I don't know how to use webadmin. I did it in command line (Debian)

/etc/logrotate.d


/usr/local/jakarta-tomcat-4.1.30/logs/catalina.out {
rotate 5
weekly
compress
delaycompress
notifempty
missingok
create 0640 tu3404nl tu3404nl
}


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From: Carlos Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: November 15, 2004 3:37 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Phillip,
Since Webmin uses logrotate could I just create a simple entry with Webmin?
Or do I need to specify other settings?

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Qin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:31 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

I found that logrotate is the easiest.

-Original Message-
From: Carlos Oliva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: November 15, 2004 3:28 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Filip,
I set-up the Webmin Log Rotation entry to the following:
1) Re-create log file after rotation? Yes, with mode  and owned by user and
group
   
2) Store old rotated logs in Directory   
Same directory as log file
Default (Same directory as log file)
  
3) Extension for rotated filenames  Default

Should not this maintain the file handle?

-Original Message-
From: Filip Hanik - Dev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:19 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

if you dont get webmin fixed, I recommend cronolog instead.
You cant just rotate it, cause then tomcat loses the file handle, and you
will lose all further output.

with cronolog you simply pipe it through cronolog like this


your java start command | /usr/local/sbin/cronolog
$CATALINA_BASE$/logs/%Y-%m-%d.catalina.out  /dev/null 21 

this will rotate the logs daily

Filip

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin


Hi Forum,

 

Could someone recommend settings for using the log rotation of Webmin in
order to rotate catalina.out (any cautionary measures)?  I just created an
entry in Webmin to rotate the catalina.out file weekly with all the default
settings (keeping the last four copies).  Are there any scripts I should run
before or after the rotation is carried out?



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Re: Rotating catalina.out with Webmin

2004-11-15 Thread erh
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 03:39:01PM -0600, Filip Hanik - Dev wrote:
 this was not the case when using a java.io.FileOutputStream(), so I assume 
 you tried and verified this :)

You are confused.  It _is_ the case with FileOutputStream.  The only
way it could be otherwise is if the output stream re-opens the file, either
on every write, or when it notices that the file name no longer refers to
the same file.

Create aa.java with this code:

import java.io.*;
public class aa
{
public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception
{
FileOutputStream f = new FileOutputStream(args[0]);
f.write(80); f.flush();
synchronized(f) { f.wait(5 * 1000); }
f.write(81); f.flush();
}
}

And run this:
java aa foo 
mv foo bar

Notice that the output of the second write (which occurs after the file
is renamed) is in the original file (bar), not in a new foo.

eric

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