RE: TC Apache integration

2005-07-28 Thread Randy Paries
Chuck

I have been out of the loop for a while. My Tomcat 5 has been running great
with apache 2

But are you saying that they have optimized Tomcat 5.5.9 and it does not
make sense to use apache has the front end?


Thanks
RP 

-Original Message-
From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:57 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration 

 From: Paul Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: TC  Apache integration
 
   I am following the resource -
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-3.2-doc/mod_jk-howto.html
 to try and achieve the above.
 
 I have added the line Include
 C:\dev\tomcat5\jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9\conf\jk\mod_jk.conf-auto to my 
 httpd.conf file.

I can't answer your questions, since, in general, Tomcat 5.5.9 has outgrown
the need to be front-ended by httpd, so I don't use it.
However, I do have a question for you:  why would you think the 3.2 Tomcat
doc has any relevance to the 5.5.9 release?  Have you tried perusing the 5.5
doc?

 - Chuck


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RE: TC Apache integration

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Wallace
I asked for that one.
I still wish to integrate the two. Unless you are saying that TC 5.5
is as robust as Apache. If that is the case, where does that leave httpd? 

Paul.

-Original Message-
From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2005 3:57 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration 

 From: Paul Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: TC  Apache integration
 
   I am following the resource -
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-3.2-doc/mod_jk-howto.html
 to try and achieve the above.
 
 I have added the line Include
 C:\dev\tomcat5\jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9\conf\jk\mod_jk.conf-auto to my 
 httpd.conf file.

I can't answer your questions, since, in general, Tomcat 5.5.9 has outgrown
the need to be front-ended by httpd, so I don't use it.
However, I do have a question for you:  why would you think the 3.2 Tomcat
doc has any relevance to the 5.5.9 release?  Have you tried perusing the 5.5
doc?

 - Chuck


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RE: TC Apache integration

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Wallace
Randy,
Can you point me towards to documentation to achieve this?

Thanks

Paul.

I have been out of the loop for a while. My Tomcat 5 has been running great
with apache 2

But are you saying that they have optimized Tomcat 5.5.9 and it does not
make sense to use apache has the front end?


Thanks
RP 

-Original Message-
From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:57 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration 

 From: Paul Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: TC  Apache integration
 
   I am following the resource -
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-3.2-doc/mod_jk-howto.html
 to try and achieve the above.
 
 I have added the line Include
 C:\dev\tomcat5\jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9\conf\jk\mod_jk.conf-auto to my 
 httpd.conf file.

I can't answer your questions, since, in general, Tomcat 5.5.9 has outgrown
the need to be front-ended by httpd, so I don't use it.
However, I do have a question for you:  why would you think the 3.2 Tomcat
doc has any relevance to the 5.5.9 release?  Have you tried perusing the 5.5
doc?

 - Chuck


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RE: TC Apache integration

2005-07-28 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Randy Paries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration 
 
 But are you saying that they have optimized Tomcat 5.5.9 and 
 it does not make sense to use apache has the front end?

Unless your web site consists almost entirely of static content, then
adding a front end will probably just slow things down (as well as
making your life a lot more complex).

Check out Peter Lin's performance testing from back in January:
http://cvs.apache.org/~woolfel/benchmark_summary.doc
http://cvs.apache.org/~woolfel/benchmark_summary.sxw
http://cvs.apache.org/~woolfel/tc_results.html

There are other reasons for using httpd (such as a poor-man's load
balancer for a Tomcat cluster), but serving static content isn't really
one of them anymore.

 - Chuck


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RE: TC Apache integration

2005-07-28 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Paul Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration 
 
 Unless you are saying that TC 5.5 is as robust as Apache.

I have difficulty conceiving of a situation where adding non-redundant
componentry can improve robustness.  I suppose it's theoretically
possible, but, in general, adding complexity pretty much always degrades
mean-time-to-failure.

 If that is the case, where does that leave httpd? 

Load balancing, routing, possibly a more familiar security configuration
(not necessarily better, just better known), and of course, a fast basic
web server.  CGI and PHP should be more efficient with httpd - it all
depends on what your predominant traffic is along with other
site-specific requirements.

 - Chuck


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RE: TC Apache integration

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Wallace
You highlighted my reasons for wanting to integrate Apache in your previous
email. I wish to make use of the robustness and performance of the Apache
server, because the majority of my content is static content, and for all I
know - a lot of it. I am bringing Tomcat in to the picture to process a
small of amount of business logic, rather than the other way round. 
So, can someone point me towards Tomcat (5.5) and Apache integration
documentation (or answer the few questions I posted in my original email:)).

Thanks and regards

Paul.  


Unless your web site consists almost entirely of static content, then
adding a front end will probably just slow 
things down (as well as making your life a lot more complex).

 From: Paul Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration
 
 Unless you are saying that TC 5.5 is as robust as Apache.

I have difficulty conceiving of a situation where adding non-redundant
componentry can improve robustness.  I suppose it's theoretically possible,
but, in general, adding complexity pretty much always degrades
mean-time-to-failure.

 If that is the case, where does that leave httpd? 

Load balancing, routing, possibly a more familiar security configuration
(not necessarily better, just better known), and of course, a fast basic web
server.  CGI and PHP should be more efficient with httpd - it all depends on
what your predominant traffic is along with other site-specific
requirements.

 - Chuck


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RE: TC Apache integration

2005-07-28 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Paul Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration 
 
 So, can someone point me towards Tomcat (5.5) and 
 Apache integration documentation

If you go to the main 5.5 doc page
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/index.html
you'll see a link to JK 1.2 Documentation in the left column under
Reference.  You probably also want to look at Apache Tomcat
Configuration.  And, of course, Google and the archives for this mailing
list are your friends.

 - Chuck


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RE: TC Apache integration

2005-07-28 Thread Asif Chowdhary
Hope this helps


http://www.johnturner.com/howto/winxp-howto.html

http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/jk2/jk2/confighowto.html

-Original Message-
From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 2:46 AM
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Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration 


 From: Paul Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration 
 
 So, can someone point me towards Tomcat (5.5) and 
 Apache integration documentation

If you go to the main 5.5 doc page
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/index.html
you'll see a link to JK 1.2 Documentation in the left column under
Reference.  You probably also want to look at Apache Tomcat
Configuration.  And, of course, Google and the archives for this mailing
list are your friends.

 - Chuck


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RE: TC Apache integration

2005-07-28 Thread Arup Vidyerthy
Guys, just for completeness, I thought I would stick this in here. This is
for Linux.

http://cymulacrum.net/writings/tomcat5/c875.html 

-Original Message-
From: Asif Chowdhary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 July 2005 17:04
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration 

Hope this helps


http://www.johnturner.com/howto/winxp-howto.html

http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/jk2/jk2/confighowto.html

-Original Message-
From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 2:46 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration 


 From: Paul Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: TC  Apache integration
 
 So, can someone point me towards Tomcat (5.5) and Apache integration 
 documentation

If you go to the main 5.5 doc page
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/index.html
you'll see a link to JK 1.2 Documentation in the left column under
Reference.  You probably also want to look at Apache Tomcat Configuration.
And, of course, Google and the archives for this mailing list are your
friends.

 - Chuck


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TC Apache integration

2005-07-27 Thread Paul Wallace
Hi All,
I am following the resource -
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-3.2-doc/mod_jk-howto.html to try and
achieve the above. I have a few questions as I seem to only be getting so
far following the instructions. 

I have acquired the mod_jk-1.2.8-apache-2.0.52.so binary from the Jakarta
website. What do I do with it?
I have added the connector to TOMCAT_HOME/conf.server.xml - 

Connector className=org.apache.tomcat.service.PoolTcpConnector
Parameter name=handler
value=org.apache.tomcat.service.connector.Ajp12ConnectionHandler/
Parameter name=port value=8007/
/Connector

(but can not see the port being consumed (netstat))

I have added the line Include
C:\dev\tomcat5\jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9\conf\jk\mod_jk.conf-auto to my
httpd.conf file. 
The page I mention says To configure Tomcat to generate the Apache
auto-configuration add the following block to your
TOMCAT_HOME/conf/server.xml file after AutoWebApp ... /. ApacheConfig
/. I can see no such AutoWebApp ... / tag in my server.xml. Where /
should it be added?  
Finally, Apache is running on HTTP port 80, any restrictions on
Tomcat HTTP port (not 80)?

Many thanks for your assistance

Paul.


RE: TC Apache integration

2005-07-27 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Paul Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: TC  Apache integration 
 
   I am following the resource -
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-3.2-doc/mod_jk-howto.html 
 to try and achieve the above.
 
 I have added the line Include
 C:\dev\tomcat5\jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9\conf\jk\mod_jk.conf-auto to my
 httpd.conf file. 

I can't answer your questions, since, in general, Tomcat 5.5.9 has
outgrown the need to be front-ended by httpd, so I don't use it.
However, I do have a question for you:  why would you think the 3.2
Tomcat doc has any relevance to the 5.5.9 release?  Have you tried
perusing the 5.5 doc?

 - Chuck


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