Tomcat 3.2-beta-6 or 4.0m3?
Hi, right now I work with tomcat-3.2-beta-6. Is it better to move to 4m3? What is the reason of having both versions? Zsolt -- Zsolt Koppany Intland GmbH www.intland.com Schulze-Delitzsch-Strasse 16 D-70565 Stuttgart Tel: +49-711-7871080 Fax: +49-711-7871017
RE: Tomcat 3.2-beta-6 or 4.0m3?
Hi Tomcat developers, I'd love to see some info on the release plans for these products too. I presume that those of you with "committer" status have some general long-term plans I understand that software development schedules (and esp. open-source projects) are difficult to estimate, but a rough guess would still be better than no information! I assume that 3.2 release will come well before 4.0 release, so that's one reason to stick with 3.2 instead of moving to 4.0 right now. Would I be right in guessing 3.2 release is expected sometime round december, and 4.0 release around march/april next year??? However, I am really puzzled by the existence of the 3.3 stream; surely 3.4 will come out *after* 4.0, in which case what's the point of it??? Cheers, Simon -Original Message- From: Zsolt Koppany [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 1:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tomcat 3.2-beta-6 or 4.0m3? Hi, right now I work with tomcat-3.2-beta-6. Is it better to move to 4m3? What is the reason of having both versions? Zsolt -- Zsolt Koppany Intland GmbH www.intland.com Schulze-Delitzsch-Strasse 16 D-70565 Stuttgart Tel: +49-711-7871080 Fax: +49-711-7871017
[tomcat-user] RE: Tomcat 3.2-beta-6 or 4.0m3?
Yes, a page modeled after: http://us1.samba.org/samba/development.html would indeed kick ass.. I think the tomcat cvs is too intimidating... There should be a document explaining the tags... Anycase, my theory is that 3.3 (note that apache doesn't follow the even version number scheme of the linux kernel) will be the real sucessor to jserv.. 3.1 is sun re (ie not for production use). 3.2 is beggining to bring it back, but there are many issues, and 3.3 will have everything in good form again. 4.0 is next gen, which will take some time for people to adapt to. It supports the next generation of specifications.. my thoughts.. not gospel, but I would love for tomcat-dev to straighten things out.. Hopefully politics isn't in play. Kenneth Topp --- to unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info: http://jakarta.apache.org/getinvolved/mail.html On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Kitching Simon wrote: Hi Tomcat developers, I'd love to see some info on the release plans for these products too. I presume that those of you with "committer" status have some general long-term plans I understand that software development schedules (and esp. open-source projects) are difficult to estimate, but a rough guess would still be better than no information! I assume that 3.2 release will come well before 4.0 release, so that's one reason to stick with 3.2 instead of moving to 4.0 right now. Would I be right in guessing 3.2 release is expected sometime round december, and 4.0 release around march/april next year??? However, I am really puzzled by the existence of the 3.3 stream; surely 3.4 will come out *after* 4.0, in which case what's the point of it??? Cheers, Simon -Original Message- From: Zsolt Koppany [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 1:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tomcat 3.2-beta-6 or 4.0m3? Hi, right now I work with tomcat-3.2-beta-6. Is it better to move to 4m3? What is the reason of having both versions? Zsolt -- Zsolt Koppany Intland GmbH www.intland.com Schulze-Delitzsch-Strasse 16 D-70565 Stuttgart Tel: +49-711-7871080 Fax: +49-711-7871017
Re: Tomcat 3.2-beta-6 or 4.0m3?
To follow up on a few of the items from my perspective as a Tomcat developer: Kitching Simon wrote: Hi Tomcat developers, I'd love to see some info on the release plans for these products too. I presume that those of you with "committer" status have some general long-term plans I understand that software development schedules (and esp. open-source projects) are difficult to estimate, but a rough guess would still be better than no information! I assume that 3.2 release will come well before 4.0 release, so that's one reason to stick with 3.2 instead of moving to 4.0 right now. Would I be right in guessing 3.2 release is expected sometime round december, and 4.0 release around march/april next year??? I cannot speak directly for the release plans for 3.2 final -- that is up to Sam Ruby, who is the release manager for this version. I would assume, however, that it is imminent. My personal goals for Tomcat 4.0 include: - Feature-complete implementation of the servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 "Proposed Final Draft" specifications that were recently published at java.sun.com (this will be accomplished with a Milestone 4 release that will be generated tomorrow night if all goes well). - Attention shifting towards bug fixing and performance tuning, with the goal of a production-quality implementation by Christmas time or so. The more people that help debug and tune it, the shorter this time frame can be. - Addition of web connectors (so you can run 4.0 behind a web server like you can with 3.2), JNDI environment support, and other new features as contributed by volunteers working on 4.0. So, which version should you use? - If you're readying a production deployment, and do not need servlet 2.3/JSP 1.2 features, definitely stick with the most recent release of 3.2. It will be more stable and performant at the moment (although early signs are that 4.0 will mature very nicely in these directions :-). - If you've got some time to help debug and tune, and/or you need the new 2.3/1.2 features (like filters, wrapped RequestDIspatcher arguments, XML syntax for JSP pages, custom tag validators, .) then grab the latest milestone of Tomcat 4.0 and help us make it better. FYI: Tomcat 4.0 will be the web component of the J2EE 1.3 reference implementation, when it is released. However, I am really puzzled by the existence of the 3.3 stream; surely 3.4 will come out *after* 4.0, in which case what's the point of it??? The "3.3" code stream was some enhancement work (based on the 3.2 code base) that started about the time that the first 3.2 beta was released, and continues to receive some attention even though the TOMCAT-DEV community voted to switch to the 4.0 code base for the next major release of Tomcat. While it continues to receive attention from a few developers, I only plan to mine some of the excellent low-level performance tuning tricks that have been implemented there. Although this code is there for anyone who wants to play with it (this is open source, after all :-), the next major release of Tomcat after 3.2 will be 4.0, based on the code that is in the "jakarta-tomcat-4.0" CVS repository. Cheers, Simon Craig McClanahan
